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Let's be honest: this is a very psychological books. Some of the themes like synchronicities and self-fulfilling perceptions (Operation Black Wing-Swarzkommando) truly do make you contemplate more about the human condition and how the mind works.

Not to mention the couple of episodes at the beginning in The White Visitation that dealt with Pavlovian conditioning and Freudian theories as to Slothrop's 'condition'. It's all a very intensely psychological experience, and then there are the couple of blackspots in the midst of the story (lights out on the Anubis, Morituri's story) where you fill in the blanks with perceptions you think those characters would have, i.e. they would have done this or that or something else... and try to find motives.

I don't know, if you ask me this novel has me understanding and grasping so much more out of
A) social communication
And
B) general thought patterns of other individuals.

>> No.5774976

Toilets.

Holy crap.

THAT IS
SO
FUCKING
POSTMODERN

>> No.5774983

>>5774976
There's like two episodes in the book abut toilets, but of course you probably just made it to the Slothrop's sodium amytal episode.

>> No.5775013
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>>5774983
He put his weiner in a little girl

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.
.
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that is
F C E U
U K D. P

This is way too zany for me
no thank you! Back to my genre fiction. This guy is way too <<<<<<<AVANT-GARDE>>>>>>>>>

>> No.5775152

>>5775013
jesus christ that post

>> No.5775153

>>5775152
Do you think that was invented out of thin air?

>> No.5775209

>>5775153
No, I remember the original meme. It was about being random. As a big fan of referencial humour, I was quick to get it and started laughing heavily.

>> No.5775220

NASA put on a man on the moon, but Pynchon put a man down the toilet.

>> No.5775512

zlatko go in the toilet

>> No.5775611
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5775611

Two questions

1) What made the 00000 any worse than the other V-2's? It seemed like some doomsday device then it was just Blicero being a sex freak.

2) What were the Swarzkommando gonna do with the 00001? I thought they were gonna, like, pile inside to kill themselves. Is that right?

>> No.5777123

>>5775611
Can someone please answer? Directly? Not just some rude put-down followed by a variation on "You don't get it" or "There is no answer"? You guys just look silly when you do that.

>> No.5777503

>>5777123
>>5775611
Gravity's Rainbow
A Hobbit's Tale
By Bilbo Baggins

>> No.5777508

>>5775611
I would wager on your first question you're basically correct in your assessment. The axis seemed like a major threat to the globe and ended up being crushed and totally subjugated by everyone in the end because they were based on esoteric assumptions and hostility.

For the second one I believe they at one point talk of literally escaping the earth into space, but I'm not positive and that could also be a metaphor for their apparent tribal suicidal tendency.

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>>5777508
What was my assessment? That the 00000 was no different? The whole thing's a big anti-climax then, yeah?

I don't see how people love the ending so much. It felt good to finally finish and I sure loved the ride but the end itself didn't feel weighted to me at all. Could have happened at any point in the novel. I mean, chronologically it wasn't even the end. Not even close.

>> No.5777593

>>5775611
the 00000 could have hit anywhere any time and was essentially rogue a threat but not a threat

>> No.5777629

was the "a screaming comes across the sky" just Gottfried screaming inside the rocket right?

>> No.5777640

This thread needs spoilers, big time.

>> No.5777769

>>5777629
Yeah of course you can hear a small boy inside a fucking V2 Rocket flying over 3 times the speed of sound.

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>>5777769
Hahahaha this

Not to mention the opening is a fucking dream, and not an epic "book starts at the end" scene.