/lit/ - Literature

>>5762636
I've been growing into that way of thinking since leaving high school. I figured I'd read more about it so I picked up Beyond Good and Evil to start.

>>5762636
>misreading nietzsche

>>5762636
Literature has not uplifted my soul. I'm still a cry baby nigga bitch

>>5762636
You can't become the ubermensch dumbass. You either are or are not

>>5762730
That seems kind of end times evangelical sort of thinking to me

>>5762636
I am uebermensch.

The Übermensch is actually a hypothetical future being that we are supposed to make way for, not something we can ourselves become.

The point is not to ever arrive at it, it's to arrange life in such a way that we are always striving towards future excellence.

To put it simply: It's a direction, not a destination.

>>5762737
Sorry, wanted to make an adjustment. I think he meant it quite pragmatically. The point is to give humanity a purpose, a sense of direction, new values.

Let me rephrase the OP

What have you done to overcome man today, /lit/?

>>5762749
Be NEET.

>>5762636
http://www.ibl.liu.se/medarbetare/tholander-michael/filer/1.495012/PippiLongstockingasFriedrichNietzschesoverhuman.pdf

>>5762749
Exert master morality so talentedly that I had underlings proudly and willingly serve my interests. It is an art form.

>>5762636
i-... i d-don't know h-how...

>>5762658
Everyone agrees with this.

Why aren't you truNEET yet? Explain yourselves.

>>5762769
>not realizing that master morality creates slave morality

stay herd, homosex

a duhhhhhhhhhhh nietzsche was egalitarian duhhhhhhhh

>>5762768
This is a great read. Thanks, Butterfly.

>>5762914
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Good one.

>>5762714
Man is a bridge, fool.

>>5762636
>>5762658
every time

Nietzsche never said you can be the Übermensch. He did not write self-realization books. It's pretty obvious in Zarathustra where he says you cannot become the Übermensch, but the fathers and fore-fathers.

>>5762714

>implying those that finds themselves as ubermensch aren't just lying to themselves because of confidence issues

stay pleb

I have a capacity for empathy

>ubermensch
>depicted as superman

God damn it, stop it already

>Schopenhauer even elevated the source of music's power to a higher plain. He argued that its power lay not in arousing emotions within the listener but was innate in the music itself: music was a representation of cosmic Will

Holy fuck my sides. I can picture old Schoppy in a lit art thread raging at his computer

MUSIC IS OBJECTIV U FAGS ITS COSMIC WILL SHUT UP OMG I BET YOUR A WOMAN

>>5764497
pretty much this. fuck Nietzsche and his sociopathy

>>5764497
>>5764532
Silly boys.

>>5764541
>hurrrr i was retarded my whole life pain is real imma go insane now

some hero you plebs have got yourselves here. he should've listened to daddy Schop

>>5764510
>humor
aaaaa why!!!

>>5764551
He was always deeply empathetic. Anyone who has taken a bit of effort getting to know his life and work would know that.

>>5764627
>moral nihilist
>empathetic

pick one

>>5764639
>create your own values
>can't be empathetic

>>5764644
>master/slave morality proponent
>empathetic

>>5764551
>>5764627
>>5764639
>>5764644
>>5764653
shut up faggots. anyone who doesn't kill themselves the second they realise what's going on in their world is deficient in empathy. we are all horrible people. spiders ate the insides of a a hundred thousand insects as I typed this.

>>5764639
Nietzsche wasn't a moral nihilist. Anyone who has taken a bit of effort getting to know his life and work would know tha

>>5764689
Not that guy, but he definitely was.

>>5764701
Moral nihilists wouldn't busy themselves with the endeavour of creating new values because it would be futile by their beliefs. Nietzsche dedicated his life to creating new values.

>tfw I am one of the last men

>>5764701
no he wasn't

a moral nihilist would deny the possibility of creating any moral value, while a good part of Nietzsche's philosophy is about doing just that

>>5764701
as well, Nietzsche is rumored to have gone crazy after seeing a horse get flogged. A Nihilist would not give a fuck.

>>5764497
most misinformed, retarded comment i've read today.

>>5766450
nice rebuttal faggot you really convinced me with those hot opinions

>>5764639


you seem to be confusing sympathy with empathy, a very common mistake, but never the less a grave one.

sympathy is an affectation, empathy is a capacity, one can easily have comprehension and understanding of a thing (such as another being, for instance) without being sympathetic.

likewise, autists and conditional solipsists have have a propensity for having sympathy with the darndest thinks, like inanimate objects, or untermensch, and think themselves noble because of this, imagining they have some great heart due to semantic confusion, when really, they cannot imagine at all!

neitzsche was the textbook definition of a sociopath

>>5764524
This is the philosophical understanding of the average /lit/ poster.

>>5764661

>>5768889
*tips fedora*

>>5768075
>I haven't read Nietzsche

>>5766418
>A Nihilist would not give a fuck
[citation needed]

>>5766365
The nihilism for Federico is the complete rejection of all values, not the rejection of the meaning of life itself. Just a rebirth process

>>5769895
Rejection in order to create new ones. Hence, not moral nihilism.

>>5769924
He denies the moral as the misunderstanding of good and wrong to substitute it for the will power.
I would say he was just immoral

I am basically ubermensch.

>>5769940
Don't you mean amoral?

He wasn't though. He attempted to construct new ethics around a certain form of vitality.

>>5769980
Amoral is not having any moral, which less "The Stranger " of camus is not possible.
Immoral simply denies a preset moral

>>5769999
Immoral is generally used to mean "anti-moral" in the sense of transgressing against morality.

Nice nines by the way.

I don't want to be. I'd rather make my own life goals than follow Nietzsche's.

>>5770289
Joke's on you, that's what Nietzsche would want you to do.

>>5769999

>>5762636
>Why aren't you...yet
>aren't...yet
>are not...yet
>are...yet
>implying being instead of becoming

>Why aren't you an Übermensch yet? Explain yourself, pleb.
God, the world, ancestors, chance, and society Take your pick. I'm trying to get healthier and read more though. It's tough.

>>5771471
>complaining about being tough
>not owning your mistakes
Confirmed for Last man.

Today a hobo insulted me on the street. I just laughed but I felt a strong urge to punch him in the face.

I'm pretty sure that hobo read Nietzsche and was more Ubermensch than me.

>>5772503


either that, or he was nodding

>>5762636
Because I'm a ghostbuster

>Nietzsche
R u m8s serious? I'm not sure who's shittier and/or namedropped more by tryhards: him, or Plato. Maybe Camus is namedropped by tryhards and his philosophy consists of describing things as 'absurd' like that's somehow an argument, but at least he could write well.