/lit/ - Literature

ugh

>>5742939
This says a lot, thank you Anon for the constructive input.

bump

>>5742925
The greentext one is more interesting i mean,there are a fukton of poem collections but how many of,greentext?
we can even divide it by boards or themes

>>5742974
How do you think we could collect them and keep them organized?

have you newfags ever read lit's first book, THE PENIS WAS?

>>5742974
>>5742978
>>5742925
What about greentext poetry?

>>5742985
I think we need to stick to the one thing. We could do both?

The problem is if its original green text, the reader will think its fiction, and it won't pack the punch of green text proper where you think its real or could be.

But if everyone says fuck it, then the book would best be original green text only, with no poetry or photos, and should at least mimic the bare bones pure story format.

And the cover should be: >

>>5743000
I feel like the poetry one will be the easiest and it won't be shit

>>5743000
>implying
TL;DR poetry

every page may have one image much the same way a post can, but a page does not need an image.
the stories are all in greentext format but you can have a small amount of normal text afterwards as you would on a post

"
>went to get laid
>she had a dick
>tried to get head anyway
>went limp
after i left i through my leftover mcdonalds in her car, it was really hot out so it probably stunk like this the next morning.
"

etc.

>>5742985
That will be just poetry with a
>
Greentext is more like minimalist prose.
or we can try and do something like "for sale"

OP here, you guys are unclear so we will vote greentext, poetry, or both/composite.

http://strawpoll.me/3015237

>>5742978
github?

>>5743034
OP again, I don't understand github but I will check it out.

>>5743033
I will check the poll in the morning in case the thread dies, if doesn't get much attention we'll forget about the idea but I'm willing to put in a bit of effort to make this a thing.

When someone buys it from Lulu, who gets the money?

>>5743044
I support you man, i voted for poetry

>>5743044
I voted for poetry too.

>>5743033
STOP.

Allow multiple votes. Allowing only one vote is the most ridiculous way to make a decision. See this video: http://youtu.be/orybDrUj4vA

>>5743071
Good point. Not OP, but I've created a new one: http://strawpoll.me/3015304

>>5743046
>caring about the money
>being a troo artist
Pick one.

Oh, and no one gets any money. It's sold at cost.

>>5743071
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem

Successive polling is the only answer, anon. It'd probably be close to a correct approximation of individual interests around the 7th polling.

Voting as the fist of the northern star.

But greentext is poetry.

Couldn't humorous poems be written to represent or summarize the greentext they go with? The greentext could be on the left page and the accompanying poem on the right page

WHO THE FUCK EVER SAW A GREEN TEXT POEM IN THE FLESH

Its a ridiculous idea considering many green text stories are wonderful and /lit/s poetry is always abominable.

>>5742925

>implying /lit/ will actually succeed this time
>implying your horrible poems will even rhyme

>>5743034

>implying anyone knows how to use github
>implying barriers to entry aren't the rub

>>5743044

>implying autists won't just whinge and police tone
>implying you retards won't give up just like 'Stone'

No this is a terrible idea.

We have the first novel to prove the statement aforementioned.

Just peeked through The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra on amazon.com. Sweet shit. Reminds me of the Illuminatus trilogy by Wilson and Shea a bit.

>>5743274
a lot of /lit/s poetry is pretty good, its just that the good stuff seems to come from two or three people. The best greentext is hardly above the level of creepypasta. the editor would have his work cu out for him establishing context. the poetry collection would write itself and we could post a couple hundred poems somewhere, have everybody that wanted to rate them, and that would determine which ones ended up in the collection. are there a hundred good greentexts?

>>5743329
As aforementionned, it could be a collection of greentexts from multiple boards, and the book could be split in chapters, each chapter being a board, so we could easily have more than a hundred greentexts that are worthy of being put into books.

The problem is, some of the worthwhile are also really long and split into multiple parts.

>>5743613
in a book, length and disconnectedness would be the editors problem. He'd also need to separate them into humorous, pathetic, instructive, admonitory, cryptic, whatever categories he chose. I'd like to see a few of these most admirable greentexts posted here, along with the most admirable poems. it would give us a better idea of what chance they'd have of recruiting an audience more than the simply academic.

>tfw Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra book has a tvtropes page

>>5743640
You are right about the editor stuff, but we cannot know if there is quality content out there unless we really begin the project

>>5744178
I agree. let's have a thread where people post their absolute favorite greentexts and poems from /lit/ and other boards. the ones that get the most comments will be the ones we use as types for the collection.

>>5743022
this is good, 4chan best of archive in bookworm

>cold wet november day
>inhaling cigarettes on the porch
>a group of students glide past
>the snow compacting beneath their feet

>>5744152

I don't understand how such an intentionally convoluted clusterfuck can even be troped

>>5744189
Fuck that.

Have people submit poems, and put everything in there, aside from long joke poems that only exist to make the book unpractically long.

Instead, every poem gets sorted by (ofcourse completely subjective) evocation.

>>5744376
arguably the best poet on here is the seldom-seen Irishman, and he's unlikely to be here and submit for himself. Okay to submit other people's stuff?

>>5744385
Seems alright to me.

There was this one guy that posts that posts his beautiful cat poem on here sometimes. It was called "the cat of 8 lives ago" or something, and was absolutetly stunning. Some people must have saved it. I know I have, but not on this computer. That one should definitely be in there.

I think it's best if a collection of poems made by /lit/ also refects /lit/: everybody's posting everything. and everything is presented as equal, despite the retardation of most of it.

>>5744394
ha, yeah i have that one "The Ninth Life"
he is careful of dogs now:
he makes shorter leaps
and he stays on the inside,
when frost starts to creep

round the borders of windows.
he still walks the ledges
but nowadays two or three steps
from the edges.


The mice whom his forays
would terrify nightly
he just looks on and nods
as they pass him,
politely

When he dreams of the kitten
of eight lives before
he shudders, and takes
a slow stroll to the door

And I rise and assist him
out into the sun
and he shuffles along
where he once used to run

And I take shorter steps
and I take smaller breaths
and I want to inquire
about his other deaths

But he'd just raise an eyebrow
and look up to heaven
and say "I wouldn't worry
till you get past seven."


I bet we get a crop of the Nicki Minaj's ass poems too

I have a whole folder full of green text stories, or just generally funny comments from many different boards.
How can I compile them, and how can we decide which ones to pick and how to organize them. I don't think we should organize them by board.
Also, is there a website or something that I can upload all of the stories on and have people vote on the best ones?

>>5744463
greentext can best be evaluated and voted on here on this board I think. The impact is often highly context dependent, though. Why not classify them as was previously suggested, by whether they're humorous, pathetic, admonitory etc?

>>5744472
Should I just dump them here?
I have a lot of them, is there a website I can use where people can vote or something?

>>5744476
there are several. But I'd just start a "best of greentext" thread and have people vote by comment. Make it clear in the OP that they shouldn't "vote" for those they don't like.

>>5743074
>>5743033
>>5743044

Poetry's losing either way. I don't think it should be poetry. As people have said, poetry books are published all the time, the only differences here will be that it was made anonymously on 4chan. Nothing wrong with that in theory, but many people who put time and effort into a poem to make it good aren't going to want to have it published anonymously, especially not in a book from 4chan.

I think what these anons >>5744463
>>5744472
>>5744489
are saying is the better option by far, with /lit/ collecting the best greentext stories from the site and then voting on which get included. One of the major bonuses here is that le funny trolls wouldn't destroy the entire project.

>>5744503
you make a good point about the poetry, but i still think we should do some sort of definitive collection of /lit/poetry if only for our own use. I think like with the greentexts, we should gather poems and have them voted into a sort of "hall of fame" as long as it's clearly and unauthorized collection I doubt anyone would complain. also, poetry is a lot more accessible (and its quality measureable) by outside media. It's a lot more likely to get some life outside the site.

that said, the endemic nature of greentext would make it the best collection from an academic standpoint. the stories could be compared and their essential elements determined and a set of standards for judging them elaborated. Therefore I suggest we have both: for the greentext one, I suggest the title
>implying
>implications

an anthology of
>greentext
stories by Anonymous

>>5744503
Best of greentext is boring; it's just old stories from 4chan. You can make a website to host that.

Maybe we can write a long form poem, where someone writes an opener, and every day people write the next section, and at the end of the day we vote about which one we like best. The following we continue from there.

I honestly cannot tell you how much this book will suck ass. The last one was horrible.

>>5744540
a 4chan epic? i like it. Extra points for varying rhyme scheme and style,

>>5744536
for the greentext one I like the title:
">tfw no gf" and Other Horror Stories of the Modern Age

>>5744562
works for me

tfw no gf rhymes so it could title a poetry collection too.

>>5744554
How about we do a reworked version of a classic work (like Joyce did with Ulysses) and make it a story about some boy falling in love?

For example, we could use The Divine Comedy, and have it start out with The Boy realizing that he has lost control over his life and is not the person he wants to be ("Midway upon the journey of our life I found myself within a forest dark, For the straightforward path had been lost"). He decides to change that while going through his mind and reflecting on his shortcomings and vices (the rings of hell and the sins connected to them), later he sees a girl and they fall in love, all along the lines of the structure of The Divine Comedy. Only the ending is changed: in true 4chan fashion, The Boy fucks things up with The Girl and she doesn't want to see him ever again. It could end with him greentexting about his journey on 4chan

>>5744536
>i still think we should do some sort of definitive collection of /lit/poetry if only for our own use

agreed

>>5744600
A darkling wood,a darkening plain,
I struggled 'gainst a breaking strain
as with the hordes my weapons clashed
and then the Warcraft server crashed
and I, once more alone bereft
with no foe but my own soul left,
I, chancing on a dating site
explored the sweet and ancient rite
of lying so as too get laid
soon found that i was sore afraid
that i might find a girl at last
one who would to my heart cleave fast
but who i'd never woo nor win
and so be left alone again...

>>5744641
Changing darkening to dark'ning or dark'ing to keep the meter

>greentext novel with literary introduction
>picked up by literary magazine
>assert influence of /lit/
welp OP you think another faggot-tier novel could do that?

hey guys we should vote for categories.
http://greentext.litwritesabook.com

>>5744799
Nice try you homo

It could use a touch up or too, but I have to go

>>5742925
Heres the pitch guys.

We right a NEW translation of the bible, so that is can co-exists with science.
Am i the only one that thinks this can be done?

>>5744870

The Jefferson bible.

Already done.

Bump for the literate shitposting

I'm back, looks like we are doing a greentext book.

First we need a step by step process on how we are actually going to compile all of them.

>watch a show about giraffes
>go upstairs to see my computer
>go on an internet message board for ten minutes
>look at the clock
>five hours have passed
>go to bed

>>5745504
what?

First of all, we'd have to have some scribe use the same font and color of the greentext

Second of all, we'd have to only use greentexts that existed before this. Preferably 'legendary' ones. This prevents people from trying too hard

Then we should find the pic related and put it above ever greentext

>>5745514
If you're talking about the format I think this would be our best bet.

I'm willing to be the scribe if someone tells me the best way we can compile all the legendary greentexts

Bump

>>5745504
Are you spying on me?

>>5743033
greentext

Since >be me is pretty much a perfect title, I think we should stick with greentext. Specifically, greentext that already exists, things from 4chan's past. Post whatever greentext you like, and if it's memorable, it should go in the book. There doesn't need to be any rhyme or reason to the structure, either, since greentext threads rarely have a common theme (at least for long).

I think we should avoid spaghetti stories just because this book should be something that people outside of 4chan should be able to enjoy as well.

>>5746318
spaghetti is a part of life anon, a bigger than most recognize

>>5746324
But the first few mentions should use the full meme
>Put hands in pocket
>Try to pull something out but the spaghetti I brought for dinner falls down
so people understand when later on they see just
>spaghetti everywhere

>>5744641
this is good yo

Will dropbox or an email address work? Or we could just make a big thread and I'll save all the good ones. We probably want to limit the size of the book.

I'm thinking it would be set out like this:

>Introduction
Here we write how to interpret a greentext story and the history for the off chance people not familiar with 4chan get their hands on it.

>Chapters
Each chapter is a specific theme eg. tfw no gf, spaghetti, tard stories, etc.

Content pages would be set out as seen here >>5745523

bump

Fuck your mediocre poetry shit

What you need to do is trawl the archive from 2008-14 and find the vest green text

50 of you working at it, collaborate at the end and remove duplicates; how long could it take?

>>5746417
the problem i would have is that the actual themes:humor, warnings, advice, pathos, irony, might get lost in the repetitive structure. I think the thing to do is stay away from those that are basically inside jokes, such as spaghetti, no gf, tard stuff, or have a special section just for them and highlight the ones that have truly universal appeal.

bump

>>5747512
Do we have archives from 08? I can't find any earlier than 2010

>>5748782
Context?

>>5748795
I assume that's someone on /v/ starting a thread.

>>5746417
>>5747624

Should we throw greentext from all boards in or should we separate between them?

>>5749112
Ok, so if we divided up the chapters into different boards and trace the origins of each greentext that will work. Perhaps at the start of each chapter we could have a description of the board and it's culture?

>>5749204
Sounds resonable.

So let's first collect greentexts and then we can see how exactly it can be edited.

fuck off, the joke is over

>Rebounding off the incredible success of our thrilling novel 'The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra'

What success? It didn't make much of a splash. That said, I'd be willing to 'boot again.

>Let's troll through the public archives, rehash dated board culture for shits and giggles, and throw it up on Amazon.

Well, sure, if it's keeping you miscreants off the streets and out of the bars.

The reason the last attempt failed was lack of editorial control. What we need is an editor, or small editorial group, to act as minimal gatekeepers. Do that and the people who have something worthwhile to contribute will dive right in. It's the wall of blanking noise that is holding us back.

No one expects fathomless genius with something like this, be it humorous, obscene, idiotic, deeply stylized, or blatantly piled impenetrable subculturalisms, at least you'll get people who care with new material.

[2].
>>5749406

>>5749259
We sold over a hundred copies

Here's a suggestion

Using the large multi-board archive, we organise and allocate people to searching through one year of a board. I'm sure someone on /g/ can develop a script that could detect green text.

>>5749495
There are already plenty of screencaps of most of the good ones and if we go off the time and date we can trace them back in the archives rather than going through millions of posts. :)

>>5749259
>>5749250
pic related

I am this guy >>5744463

I have been colecting greentext stories these past few days, and I have about around 180 right now, I am hoping to collect around 200 by Friday.
Then I will post the voting thread on Friday night, and keep bumping it through the weekend.
Then I will be working on the book throughout thanksgiving, and I post the final version her the Friday after that for some more suggestions and tips. It should be done by then.

>>5749997
Jesus Christ, I need some sleep.
Sorry about all the grammar and spelling mistakes.

>>5749997
OP here, do you have a spare email address I can contact you on? I'm willing to put in a bit of effort in. I can help format or whatever you need me to do. Alternatively you can email me at greentextcollection@gmail.com

>>5750031
I will email my plan and ideas in a moment.

This isn't the same guy who did the first book.

Fuck off, OP.

Trying to fit in is embarrassing.

>>5750051
Yeah no shit, fuck of if you don't want to participate.

Thanks for the bump

>>5750031
Alright, check your mail.

>>5750031
If anyone else wants to help out with the project email me here and I will tell you where we are at exactly and what you can do. There will be another thread tomorrow so feel free to let this one die off

/thread

>>5749495
Ok, but larger boards use tend to use a ton of greentext, much of it just a line or two. We'd need to decide how many lines mininum is worthy of inclusion so the search isnt bogged down by useless shit.

>>5750282
you would need to scroll through every single example of greentext

anything worthy of being considered would be easily recognisable, being probably 4+ lines long

>>5742983
>THE PENIS WAS

Oh my god. I'd entirely forgotten.

FUCK, you're becoming the demons john!