/lit/ - Literature

>>5740671
because we live in a capitalist society

duh

You can literally get any book you want for free online in under a minute.

>>5740685
>stealing

>>5740696
Most authors worth reading are dead.

Any living author that writes for profit probably isn't worth reading.

It's also not "stealing" any more than borrowing a book from the library is stealing.

>>5740671
Knowledge is worth paying for. If you don't want to or can't pay for it, you're not working hard enough in life to deserve it.

If you're lazy or willfully stupid, you won't be able to get a job that pays enough to afford you a liberal education and leisure reading. Without that, you will never attract a decent mate. Without one of those, your bloodline will certainly come to an untimely end.

If you don't have a degree, get one. If you have one, get a better job. If you have a good job, shut the fuck up and buy some books, or your entire existence is meaningless.

>>5740714
>your existence is meaningless if you don't have kids

How'd you reach that conclusion, anon?

>>5740704
Then go borrow your books from the library instead of pirating, your broke degenerate fuck.

>>5740721
this

>>5740721
There is literally no difference so why do you care?

Who am I kidding though, you guys are just materialists who buy books for the sake of commodity fetishism.

>>5740720
The sole purpose of your life is to reproduce. This is an objective fact that you can't refute. You can lather on that "make your own meaning" pseudo-shit, but we both know you don't mean it. Don't want to reproduce? Thanks. More for me.

>>5740727
>he typed from his Macbook Pro

>>5740731
>The sole purpose of your life is to reproduce. This is an objective fact that you can't refute.

u wot m8, you're just jumping to conclusions here without any rationale behind it clearly. Calling it objective doesn't make it so.

The Earth is overpopulated and running out of resources as it is, unless more people stop having kids then everybody's bloodline is going to die out, not just your own.

>>5740727
So now that torrenting is rampant anyone who purchases books is a materialist (?)

Christ you're stupid.

>>5740727
I buy books because I respect literature. If I don't want to buy one, I go to the library. You're a cunt if you truly believe it's cool to steal anything that isn't public domain.

>>5740739
Not mine. I have the aforementioned education, money, and job. Go back to reddit, plebeian scum.

>>5740733
>sipping on his starbucks latte, as he smugly reajusts his horn-rimmed glasses

>>5740733
I use a PC actually

>>5740740
Most likely. Look at the "post your recent purchases" and "post your bookshelf" threads that are up on /lit/ 24/7. A lot of you faglords only buy books for the sake of commodity fetishism to show them off and feel good about yourselves instead of to actually learn things from them.

>>5740752
>A lot of you faglords only buy books for the sake of commodity fetishism to show them off and feel good about yourselves instead of to actually learn things from them.
What's wrong with that?

>>5740752
No one has ever learned anything of significance from the screen of a Kindle.

ereaders are for middle-aged women to read 50 Shades on while drinking wine in stretch-pants at 2pm.

>>5740749
>Not mine. I have the aforementioned education, money, and job.

Yes that will do your grandchildren a lot of good when our increasingly oil-reliant economy collapses and global warming acidifies the oceans and renders most of the world's land unarable.

>>5740752
Actually I purchase books because I don't like the feeling of reading off a computer screen or a kindle or an ipad etc

So you can call me a materialist in that sense, but if anything I'm denying recent consumerist trends of ebooks

>mfw books in eBay cart just surpassed $500 dolleridoo's
>frantically review every book for one I don't really want/need to read
>0 results found
>who needs to eat, anyway?

>>5740758
YOUR grandchildren.
Mine will be set, though I appreciate your concern, pleb.

>>5740714
Ok bby. U sound like u make a lot wabt to fuk onky 300 ;)

>>5740757
Demonstrating your commodity fetishism only serves as an example of why my point about you buying books for the sake of commodity fetishism was correct.

You're basically admitting right now that you just buy books for the image instead of the content.

>>5740752
>guys
>GUISE
>UR ENJOYING BOOKS WRONG

>>5740766
>Mine will be set

Nobody's grandchildren will be set, m88. I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation we're in right now.

>>5740731
>The sole purpose of your life is to reproduce. This is an objective fact that you can't refute.
Only if you still consider humans the same as dogs. We are much more complex lifeforms, and we have trascended the primitive concept of instincts as our main drive for living. Reason has made us completely dependent is this sense.

Is up to you if still want to go around naked boning any female you see because hey, nature says so

>>5740771
Did I touch a nerve?

Because low turnover rate (will sit on a shelf for a long time). If more people bought books they'd be less expensive.

>>5740772
>being this much of a climate alarmist

>>5740766
Another nice thing about owning books is that they can be passed down to your children and grandchildren.

>>5740696
This is why you're too poor for books. So weak, probably believes in meta physical spooks

>>5740761
This is fair enough, just don't complain about books being too expensive if you're going to do this and pretend you're morally superior to people who'd rather download.

>>5740777
Reading from a Kindle is the opposite of transcendence, my friend.

>>5740780
Narrow mindedness and stupidity always does.

>>5740793
I'm not OP

>>5740764
>iktf from a lower economic status
Think how terrible it would be if we needed food more than books tho. We're fine.

>>5740785
Good thing I have plenty of books, which I purchased at full price from local book stores.

>>5740784
Cool political cartoon, doesn't change the fact that the ocean is acidifying, i.e. the cause of basically every major extinction event in Earth's history except for the Cretaceous

>>5740761
Bull shit, you're reading off a computer screen right now. Probably been browsing 4chan for hours

>>5740815
Yeah but it's not the same as reading a book dumbass

>>5740814
Outside your board ron. Your race war and nuke theories are better scenarios btw

>>5740799
I know you aren't, I was just saying.

>>5740798
>Narrow mindedness and stupidity
>"hurr durr DON'T STEAL BOOKS cause they won't have that nice smell and i can't show them 2 ppl to make me look smrt"
>"also btw books are 2 expensive pls gib mone"

>>5740808
For some reason, I like old used books better.

When I read it feels as if I'm time travelling

ITT: POOR KIDS WHO HAVE NO JOB JUSTIFYING THEIR STEALING

>>5740825
How?? Its like pulling teeth with you people, It take a bloody spanish mercenary squad to civilize you

>>5740836
*tips fedora*

>>5740826
u fuckin wot m8? Is it American power hour or something?

This is not a political issue, it's a documented scientific occurrence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification

Only Americans are stupid enough to believe that stupid political cartoons are enough to debunk well-documented scientific phenomena.

>>5740834
No wonder they call Christianity the jewish morality

>>5740836
because on place likes this i am reading small blocks of text, and then averting my eyes to something else

reading a book your eyes are basically fixated on the same place for however long you read, and doing this on a bright screen doesnt feel good

>>5740827
>All I've got left in my defence is memes.

>>5740852
>if I call it a meme it means he's wrong!

Nope. Sorry that books don't exist solely to boost your ego. Some of us are actually interested in the content contained in them instead of paying out of the ass for aesthetically pleasing covers that we can show off to all our internet buddies so that we can feel good about ourselves.

>>5740845
This is a wikipedia page of autist word vomit, 'documented scientific occurences' would be a meta-study by an accredited college or institution

But whatever mate my far left economics don't matter because you've already invented up an american republican your debating, ironically indicative of an american

>>5740849
Lower screen brightness, enlarge the text. How did you find 4chins grandpa?

>>5740880
doesnt make any difference

>>5740872
>'documented scientific occurences' would be a meta-study by an accredited college or institution

Take your pick:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=ocean+acidification&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C34&as_sdtp=

>my far left economics don't matter because you've already invented up an american republican your debating

u fuckin wot m88? When did I claim this? I called you an American which you just confirmed you are. Nobody outside of America denies that global warming is a thing.

>>5740714
>your existence is meaningless if you don't have fuck someone and marry them and have babies and work and consume and consume and consume and die

>>5740714
*tips fedora*

The Jews ramping up prices are trying to discourage literacy.

>>5740906
:^)

>>5740770
>>5740752
>>5740727
>commodity fetishism

Nice buzzwords faggot, is this your catchphrase or something?

>>5740696
I bet you buy secondhand.

>>5740979
I guess I can't reasonably expect a person who only buys books to fuel their ego to have actually read many of them.

It's a theory presented by Marx in Capital.

>>5740992
>i don't like it when people do harmless things they enjoy

classic marxist

>>5740845
>Is it American power hour or something?
actually yes
dunno where you're living but it's 2 am here so that means it's afternoon/evening in murrika, the most active period for them.

>>5741007
You're the one literally calling people "degenerates" for downloading books instead of buying and fetishizing them.

>>5740888
>replying to him
this thread, mang.

>>5741015
>literally calling people "degenerates"

I literally haven't though, what are you on about?

>>5741026
Someone earlier in this thread who was agreeing with you did at least.

Your statement was hypocritical regardless though assuming you actually have some sort of problem with downloading books.

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Now, the question:
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>>5740882
>americlaps

Paperbacks from Barnes and Noble are pretty damn expensive. But books? Pretty much free.

>>5740671
I bet you think music is expensive as well because you just have to have it on vinyl.

>>5740992
not the guy you are responding to but

what would you say about someone who buys books for their historic value, bindings and illustrations as much as the literary content?

is anyone that patronises arts other than literature a commodity fetishist?

>>5741072
CD would probably suffice

CD is actually cheaper than buying digital

>>5741076
>is anyone that patronises arts other than literature a commodity fetishist?

Well with your example sort of yeah, but I honestly don't really care as long as you don't shit on people who'd rather download stuff. Spend your money however you want just don't pretend that your purchases grant you moral superiority any more than collecting coins or stamps does.

>>5741088
>buying digital

>>5741088
Buying art is bad for art. You should pirate to help the world move towards a state where art is no longer profitable and only practised by those who aren't in it for financial gain.

>>5741101
>stealing

you are the kind of person that forces musicians to overcharge for concerts and do advertisements

>>5741104
ok sport

>>5741104
really this. nit even b8ing

>>5741113
>copying a thing is the same as taking the thing away from someone

>>5741120
yes, it is

>if i copy a painters painting and sell it as my own its not stealing at all!

are you 14?

>>5741118
I was serious as well. We should also support a universal basic income. The combination of the two, together with the internet, will allow for a glorious cultural renaissance.

>>5741124
shut the fuck up armchair philosopher

christ i can smell your rancid fedora from here

>>5741124

>>5741124
>>>/sci/6880521

>>5741113
>you are the kind of person that forces musicians to overcharge for concerts and do advertisements

Sorry but that's their record labels and other similar middlemen, m88.

Most musicians these days are in support of internet piracy since it allows their music to reach much wider audiences and become far more popular than it otherwise would have. This means more people go to their shows and buy their merchandise which equates to more money on average for musicians.

This makes it easier for musicians to succeed and thus is a huge boost to music as an art form in general.

>>5741122
It isn't. If someone makes the same dinner as me I still have mine and I can still eat it. I won't have to go hungry because he copied it.

Also, pirated media is generally spread for free, not sold.

Also, you're assuming that the person downloading the pirated copy would otherwise buy a copy. Which isn't the case a lot of the time.

>>5741141
>Most musicians these days are in support of internet piracy
nope

>>5741127
>he supports artificial scarcity

I bet you like Ayn Rand.

>>5741124
I am also fond of this idea

>>5741152
>he supports immature theories

i wish virgins would just die

>>5741148
Yep. Any musician today not signed to a major label has piracy to thank for any degree of success that they see.

Hell, a lot of independent musicians have even started giving a way digital downloads of their music for free or on a "pay what you want" basis.

They get all their money from the shows and merch, not record sales.

>>5741047
anyone? not even $1?

>>5741162
nope

bandcamp

not piracy

>>5741159
>free sharing of art is already practised as we speak
>basic income has already successfully been implemented in the past

Stay angry, friend. Also, progressive ideas gets you voluntarily and freely shared pussy.

>>5741124
>universal basic income
>not negative income tax

Stay pleb. It's a welfare system that invalidates the "welfare removes incentive to work" argument.

>>5741162
I really like the idea of bandcamp. Listening to an album for free and donating some bucks to the artist if you like it.

>>5741175
I'm for whatever allows people to choose a creative life without working some shit job.

I am Dutch, live in the Netherlands. And read mostly English. I have limited acces (Although not all too bad, and can always order from overseas) to English books, but it's quite a bit more than Dutch books. I do have a Waterstones in the city, but that one is overly expensive. (But I come there often, because of the different choice of books than my regular website)

So yeah, reasonable expensive hobby. But it's worth having those books on your shelf.

>>5741171
A sizable chunk of any record sales made on bandcamp goes to bandcamp, not the artist.

That's why artists would rather you spend your money on their merch and concerts than on their music.

People being able to get their music for free and share it with their friends though can exponentially increase their popularity and essentially skyrocket them to fame. No modern musician who isn't retarded is anti-piracy.

>>5741194
>A sizable chunk of any record sales made on bandcamp goes to bandcamp, not the artist.
10%

>>5740731
>The sole purpose of your life is to reproduce
>he doesn't realize there is no natural teleology
When are you faggots going to make the distinction between objective and subjective?

>>5741193
I am Dutch as well, bought an e-reader and haven't paid for an English language book since.

>But it's worth having those books on your shelf.

But of course I'm not an artefact worshipping faggot.

>>5741197
15%

And one person shelling out a couple bucks for their album is way less profit than hundreds of new fans downloading it for free and buying tickets to their concerts.

Piracy also increases the amount of music aspiring musicians can listen to, influencing them to create better and better music. Piracy has a hugely positive impact on the entire medium unless you work for a record label, although record labels are really obsolete now anyways

>>5740714
How are things going, bateman.

>>5741208
Oh, I am not into those E-reader things.

>>5740731
>spend your life attempting to reproduce instead of just doing as you please
>succeed to reproduce
>ebin, finally there
>extinction event happens
>it was just as futile as not reproducing, only you didn't get to enjoy yourself along the way

>>5740764
show me your list, i'll find 20 books not worth reading for you.

Wow kids will really go out of their way to justify their laziness, won't they?

Get a job freeloaders.

>>5741230
It's a tool to read text, just like your bound books and scrolls and clay tablets were, but a much more cost efficient one. Do you send handwritten letters as well because you are "not into" e-mail even though it's hugely impractical?

>>5741240
As energy efficient beings, activity needs to be justified, not idleness.

>mfw i really dont give a fuck about these arguments against pirating
>mfw i just want to read for free cus i can

>>5741264
>reading free in a world of libraries

edgy bro

Why do Americans love inefficiency so much?

>>5741283
They've been duped into actively working against their own best interests for the sake of their plutocratic corporate masters.

>>5741047
last bump from me...

>>5741047
sell blowjobs

>>5741249
No, I just like sitting with a book in my hand, and having the book on my shelf. I also love the smell of books.

An E-Reader is handier, because you can have 100's of books and easy read in the dark, it's just not my thing - I tried, got it somewhere laying around. It just doesn't work for me.

I understand why you want it, don't worry faggot. I just don't like it.

>>5741316
how much would you pay to give one?

>>5741289
They're really militant about it as well. The red scare really is one of the greatest propaganda pieces ever.

They're not there at most 20 bucks. Will you spend 20 dolls to have a good time? Do you really want a book?

I just bought Taylor Swifts cd, it was 16.95

>>5741171
>>5741148
>>5741113
>thinking this
>either being so ignorant it hurts or literally having shit enough taste for music to listen to pop records

>>5741353
is taylor swift actually good? she seems like whitney houston: sells platinum level but no one you meet irl admits to listening

Support your local second-hand bookshop, autists.

>>5741345
I like how you're using the present tense as if a frame of mind from over 50 years ago is still relevant today. Most people I know and almost everyone I've talked to about politics hates our government and wants things to change, regardless of their political affiliation. Face it, you're basically the same as people who think the French Surrender meme is still funny.

>>5741283
Books are so fucking cheap in the US, it's ridiculous. I've been to Europe before, and I was shocked at how much even used books were priced.

>>5741363
no, it's just waifufags who obsess over here and teen girls with shit taste

>>5741369
You might as well pirate, neither supports the author.

>>5741371
>I like how you're using the present tense as if a frame of mind from over 50 years ago is still relevant today. Most people I know and almost everyone I've talked to about politics hates our government and wants things to change, regardless of their political affiliation. Face it, you're basically the same as people who think the French Surrender meme is still funny.
Americans consider liberalism to be leftist. That's how right wing they are.

>>5741363
>>5741378
I'm pretty sure it's also an attempt by some to include a top 40 pop artist in their taste to seem above their piers by giving the appearance of a broader sense of taste. They get to claim superiority over those with more obscure or harsh tastes by calling them hipsters or tryhards, only to turn around and listen to the same music without any genuine interests.

Basically most people who do this are fuckbois.

>>5741383
I don't like reading a screen. I enjoy supporting the shop and finding good publications.

>>5741371
>as if a frame of mind from over 50 years ago is still relevant today

More like a little over 20 years ago. Reagan is practically worshiped by the party that's dominant in the US right now.

>>5741383
>hur dur let local businesses die
>hur dur le free download that i can read on my pc and hurt my eyes
>hur dur let books die

pleb

>>5741392
>he posts from a computer screen

>>5741389
>Americans consider liberalism to be leftist. That's how right wing they are.

This sounds more like:

>Americans consider meme to be meme. I learned this meme from the 4chan, it is how real people are. I am not making stupid generalizations about a country of 300 million people and counting with incredible diversity from region to region across one of the largest countries on the planet.

>>5741396
That's true, but personally i've seen this attitude die down among most people. Those who are really pushing things like 'Socialist' as an insult are mostly Republican politicians who try to discredit what they see as a threat.

>>5741402
You know what I meant.

Stop being a smart-ass and grow up. Read how you want to read and stop questioning how other people do it.

Autist.

>>5741268
>wanna read book
>go to library
>see if it's there
>see if some other guy hasn't already borrowed it
>get book
>go back home
>be subject to the time they impose for you to have it
>return it
>writer doesn't get anything

>wanna read book
>borrow it from friend
>have to return it to friend
>writer doesn't get anything

>wanna read book
>go to used book store
>hope it's there among the myriad of penny novels and chick porn
>buy half destroyed book
>writer doesn't get anything

>wanna read book
>download it from the internet while scratching your ass
>you can read it whenever you want
>you can reread it a million times
>you can copy and paste stuff in case you need to take notes or reference it or shit
>no drm
>yours forever
>can make backup copies
>writer doesn't get anything

>>5741405
>Those who are really pushing things like 'Socialist' as an insult are mostly Republican politicians

i.e. the party that has complete control of congress right now. Americans seem to be very aggressive when it comes to attacking their own best interests. Are they masochistic or something?

>>5741408
>You know what I meant.

I don't think I do.

>>5741414
Go away, child.

>>5741411
>library
>going to the library will keep the library alive and libraries now have online databases to check

>friend
What's wrong with having to return it?

>used bookstore
>supporting local business and the store gets money which keeps it alive

youre a pleb

I like bookstores because I like browsing the shelf for things I haven't heard of before. I've pirated books for years, but never once have I discovered new literature through it. For some methods (#bookz, for example) it's nearly impossible to discover anything you're not explicitly searching out. And after a few years on lit, a lot of the books I'm trying to pirate now are impossible to find in digital form, scanned or set (and if it is scanned, it's usually done terribly).

It's also pretty fun to browse with friends or talk with staff about books (something which is easy to do at good second hand shops).

>>5741413
IIRC, the majority of the voting population didn't even participate in this election, and participation is at a historic rock bottom. People are just burned out at nothing working.

>>5740714
What's a job that will satisfy my desire for a knowledge of the universe?

>>5741417
>I won't explain it
>I'll just call him a child and hope he goes away

>>5740671
idk
they're free at my library
and half price at my Half Price Books
a fuckton cheaper than amazon or B&N

>>5741425
He can use a computer and still enjoy literature from physical books. You're assuming they're mutually exclusive when they're not. And when you say something that stupid, it's hard to seriously take the time to correct you.

>>5741425
It is not my fault your reading comprehension is shit.

Reading 4chan posts on the computer screen is entirely different to staring at the screen for hours reading the same novel.

Don't get defensive because you are retarded.

>>5741420
>What's wrong with having to return it?
If you need it again you'll have to ask for it again.
>supporting local business
fine and dandy and i hate amazon but the authors still don't get paid. in fact they are reselling something without the author's, let alone the publisher's authorization.
>youre a pleb
but at least I don't pretend my mooching is better than other people's mooching.

>>5741438
>Reading 4chan posts on the computer screen is entirely different to staring at the screen for hours reading the same novel.

how is reading 4chan posts for hours any different?

>>5741426
The clearance sections at my local HPBs are a goldmine. I've snagged near pristine hardbacks, and the exact translations or editions i'm looking for for only $2-$4 or less. They can have some bullshit prices on some items, and because they're secondhand the selection quality will vary with location, but it's such a nice chain regardless.

>>5741441
Your whole argument is that you may as well pirate books since none of the money from all the options goes to the author but going to a second hand bookstore keeps that place alive and supports it and allows other people to get the books they want.

You claim it's shit because you can't support the writer and yet you yourself pirate the books.

You are hypocritical and the definition of a pleb.

>>5741423
>For some methods (#bookz, for example) it's nearly impossible to discover anything you're not explicitly searching out.
dude you're on a literature board, your very presence here is making you discover new literature or it would if /lit/ weren't obsessed with the meme authors.
I hardly ever buy stuff I don't already know I'm interested in anymore. I used to do it and the amount of shit I've been subjected to has made me jaded.

>>5741447
I don't read them for hours. Some people aren't so lacking in willpower.

Get off the internet, nerd.

>>5741455
>You claim it's shit
No, you're the ones claiming pirating is shit because muh stealing and then tell people to go to the library or support local shitstores.
I have no idea how you even read books if you can't keep up with a 4chan thread.

>>5741462
>Get off the internet, nerd.
>He posted on the internet

You are a shitty trip

>>5741469
took you some time to realize

>>5741392
E-ink e-readers don't have a conventional screen. It's an actual page, but a magical one that can change. It's static, with actual ink.

>>5741465
>his whole argument is that pirating is the best option because it's free and you may as well pirate since none of the money goes to the author

>going to libraries and bookshop keeps them alive

>pirating books doesnt give anything to the author

>his whole argument is debased

>he doesn't realise some people aren't rich enough to afford brand new books and support the author so they go to libraries and bookshop for cheaper prices and at least that supports somebody

>a great deal of writer we read are dead so giving money to them makes no sense

>again he pirates and doesnt contribute either
Fuck off, pleb.

>>5741469
>completely missing the point

You spend too much time here if you read posts here for hours on end.

Get a life.

>>5741455
Supporting second hand bookstores is supporting second hand bookstores and nothing else. They are part of the ecology and likely no better nor worse for writers than piracy is. And, unlike piracy, these places are largely destined to die.

>>5740721
What is the difference between borrowing a book from the library and pirating it? Convenience for you and letting someone else borrow it, for the second option. Does the first option offer any advantages (besides your own enjoyment of a paper copy) - maybe bypassing a certain mental block you have?

>>5740696
No, there's no harm done to anyone. Knowledge should be free for everyone, everywhere.

>>5741496
You are a tripfag.
We all know you spend hours on here at a time.

>>5741459
I hope this doesn't come off as self-congratulatory, but I find that I've always been really good at picking out what I want to read or what fits with my tastes based off of little information (cover, publisher, description, ect.). I think it's a skill in it's own right.

I've only been on lit a year, and even with all of the charts with huge lists for specific topics, I've basically taken to finding out what books I want from publishers catalogs and with reviews and analysis from journals, magazines, blogs, publishers catalogs, and other stuff. Or I start from one of those charts and look elsewhere. What I find at bookstores is equal to when I search for an authors name in the archives and follow that to other works. I almost never find actual recommendations on lit now.

>>5741490
>writer doesn't get recognition if you do X. do Y instead
>but doing Y doesn't help the writer either
>but some other fuck gets to profit from it! ahahahah! checkmate plebs! pleb! plebos! plebasters!
tryhard

>>5741509
I would ask you to explain your logic but we both know that doesn't make any sense.

But I knew you'd pick on the trip. Retards usually make ad hominems.

>>5741511
>I hope this doesn't come off as self-congratulatory, but I find that I've always been really good at picking out what I want to read or what fits with my tastes based off of little information (cover, publisher, description, ect.). I think it's a skill in it's own right.
Chances rather are you're just not taking any risks

>>5741518
>cries about not supporting the author
>he pirates

kek

>>5741523
you've been ad homineming the entire time you useless slug

>>5741531
Cry moar.

It's not my fault you're autistic and assumed that I read 4chan for hours on end everyday. Projection much?

>>5741529
>straw
>man

jej

>>5741533
keep throwing around those buzzwords like they mean anything

tripfags only trip for attention

>>5740741
There's no relation between respecting literature and holding paper in your hand. If you respect literature, then the content of the book is important, it's what you respect. I don't mind if you prefer it your way, that's perfectly fine, but forcing me to have it your way and wanting to take away the opportunity away from me to educate me the way I prefer is what I won't accept. Kill yourself.

>>5741540
explain

>>5741542
Stay mad.

Only newfags cry about tripfaggotry as an attempt to fit in. There was a time when plebs like you weren't here and this board was half decent.

>>5741542
If you hate trips so much, don't give them the negative attention they love, just treat them like any other anon. What you're doing right now is just retarded and derails the thread. Jesus, get a fucking clue.

>>5741552
There was a time when tripwhores weren't here and this board... well, it wasn't half decent either but at least that particular brand of shithead wasn't on.

>>5741558
>There was a time when tripwhores weren't here and this board... well, it wasn't half decent either but at least that particular brand of shithead wasn't on.

Confirmed newfag who doesn't know shit.

>>5741552
only complete fools accuse others of being a newfag for the sake of high ground

tripfaggotry is more destructive than any pleb autistic newfag

would you like to fill in some more buzzwords?

>>5740741
>steal anything that isn't public domain.
>steal
>public domain
>online for free
>legally
>steal from public domain
>steal something that is by definition yours
>steal from yourself
>legally

>>5741558
>there was a time when trips werent here

errr no

>>5741552
look at this DYEL poseur

>>5741558
This board is pretty recent in terms of 4chan history (~4 years old, almost the same age as /mu/). Trips have been here since the very beginning.

>>5741574
Stay mad.

Check those muscles. Share a pic of yourself, neckbeard.

>>5741581
i havent lifted a day in my life and i have bigger biceps than those flabby things ahhahahhahah

>>5741588
Prove it.

>>5741560
>>5741567
>>5741577
>/lit/ years old
>even typing "newfag"
holy shit what

>>5741592
You're 1 for 3 on your accusations, try again.

Just go to the motherfucking library and get books. Jesus, how difficult is it?

>>5741574
>this mad

>>5741096
>Well with your example sort of yeah, but I honestly don't really care as long as you don't shit on people who'd rather download stuff. Spend your money however you want just don't pretend that your purchases grant you moral superiority any more than collecting coins or stamps does.

people who prefer paper books shit on e-book fans because e-book fans shit on them and e-book fans shit on paper book fans because they were shit on

it is a vicious circle of shitposting

and I'm not sure reading books on an e-reader gives anyone moral superiority over stamp collectors either

>>5740685
Get Hegel's Ladder Vol. 1 and 2, then.

>>5740685
being this plebm you are disgusting

>>5741851
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=hegel%27s+ladder&open=0&view=simple&column=def

>>5742101
Holy shit. Well, thank you.

>>5740671
Why is the access to your local library totally free, including commanding any book from another one if it's not directly available?

Why is buying them second hand so cheap? even on the internet

>>5741547

The exchange would be analogous to a known thief exclaiming that thieving is wrong, then someone retorting "What do you know, you yourself steal!"

the first anon didn't refute the assertion that "not supporting the author" is bad, he simply attacked the other anon personally for pirating

this is known as a straw man.

>>5741560

>wolfe

Did you start posting as a tripfriend recently? I don't remember seeing you earlier. If you are a /lit/ oldfag why did you wait til now to adopt a trip? I guess some trips are okay when I first came here there were a dickload of trips eg Deep&Edgy, BrownBear, Slaf, Truman, Capsguy, Onionring, Quentin. Then they all sort of petered out over the years and none of the new ones had the same presence. Nowadays whoever the fuck butterfly is posts a lot but I'll never be decently annoyed by a trip like quentin again.

It feels weird that it's been four years.

>>5740714
back to /pol/. png

>>5740671
>mfw living in India
>mfw no book costs more than 500 rupees (9 dollars)

>>5740714
>If you don't want to or can't pay for it, you're not working hard enough in life to deserve it.
Here we see the libertarian ancap in its natural state. Observe closely viewers, it is rare to see one so out of touch with reality.

I buy all my books secondhand and from used bookshops, what do I win?

>>5743067
>mfv living in Germany
>paperback books cost between 1€ (Reclam) and 10€, 12 dollars

because you insist on getting the edition with all the introduction essay's, forewords, end notes, and fancy cover design. all that stuff is a luxury.

>buying books
hilarious

>>5740671
>implying that every book worth reading isn't already on public domain.

Project Gutenberg and Archive.org are your friends, guys. Also libraries if you really want physical copies.

>>5743261
are you only reading the most obvious classics? all the books that i want to read cost 20 and more euro.

>>5743354
Have you considered buying them used?

>>5743376
only if there's no other way. i like new books.

>>5743261
>tfw bought 20 books and they set me back 200€
that's still too much mang

who are the most popular threads on /lit/ always the material acquisition of literature rather than the discussion of it you worthless retards?

>>5743404
just speaking for myself here but my english is not good enough for the really interesting threads since i couldn't add anything insightful or not as i could in my own language. therefore i rather lurk and post in shittier threads like this one.
>tfw no monies 4 bookz
is simple enoough for me to type.

>>5743378
Ach well, you got no one to blame but yourself then. Also, a shelf full of used book helps create the illusion that you read more than you actually do.

>>5743420
nice little detail that this old guy would draw a heart in "schülerinnen". makes him look like he would want a bit of sexuelle überrumpelung with them himself.

>>5743404
Because reading is a solitary activity, but to prepare a good reading experience you may want to consult others.

>>5743433
also had it in "Kinder", so yeah, looks like it. And note that the heart is in red, which he uses in all the other instances to warn of sex...

>>5740671
Monopoly.

>>5743435
stupidest post of the day

>>5740671
Why don't you look at how much more expensive books were 200 years ago and then whine.

>>5740740
You are stupid if you ARNT materialist, I bet you subscribe you Hegel

>>5743452
Nice to see that there are still good folks left in our society in this time of madness and decay.