/lit/ - Literature

don't post shit like this here, faggot

He mentions Homage to Catalonia...anyone read it? is it good?

>>5697199
Hé looks like thé old Guy from always sunny on Philadelphia

>>5697219

What triggered you?

Orwell? 1984? philosophy in general? freedom of speech?

>>>/pol/

Who is that guy? ... Makes me want to read Orwell now

>>5697199
Totalitarianism is a liberal myth, now fuck off back to /pol/ you nonce.

>>5697245

that's really irrelevant since elements of totalitarianism are the issue

>>5697240

He's jewish so he has the israeli accent.

>>5697240
>old guy

Please kill yourself

Re applying a clear political message to another context is the poorest way of revisionism, you are taking something that has a known and open meaning and forcing a new one. Re discovering one of the most well read authors in the last 200 years is pathetic at best.

>>5697277

what specifically is forced in his analysis?

I'd like to see him discuss these things with Zizek, specially Gramsci and his folk

>>5697236
It's excellent. Actually my favourite work by Orwell. Highly recommended.

>>5697199

Interesting connections he makes between Orwell, fascism, newspeak and modern discourse. What's the solution??

>>5697356

watch the whole thing...He identifies the literary and social movement that is at fault and their subversive techniques.

>Gilad Atzmon

Oy vey, dis is annuda shoa

>>5697288

Seconded.

>>5697381

he's the opposite.
Nice try sliding the thread

Is Orwell still relevant today?

>>5697413
more than ever

>>5697413
He has never been relevant, he will never be relevant.

>>5697413
You fucking idiot.

>>5697405
>opposite
of what, a jew? but, he's definitely, well, a jew.

>>5697427

different style/ideology, he's more like a Norman Finkelstein than a Dershowitz or Netanyahu.

>>5697413
As a propaganda factor of his time and a writer, yes. His depiction of what's like living in poberty still rings true even if the prices thrown around are ridiculously low.
As some sort of political analyst no, he never was.

>>5697432

You're underestimating Orwell. Try rereading him and watch OPs video...he was way ahead of his time

Specially in detecting leftist/Marxist propaganda and limitations on discourse during his own time...its still happening today

>>5697442

You sound like one of those people who use doublespeak in their everyday life as a strategy. Filthy scientologist.

>>5697199
>totalitarian tendencies of liberal Leftist thinking
He used to be very close to the far left in the UK, until they abandoned him over his eccentric views. *Then* he discovered the "totalitarian" tendencies of the left. He's like a 15yo boy on 4chan who gets dumped by his girlfriend and discovers that feminism is a conspiracy to eliminate white males.

>Orwell detected the totalitarian tendencies of liberal Leftist thinking

This is the same Orwell who handed over a list of dissident writers to MI5?

Orwell always labelled his political opponents as "totalitarians" but this was laughably hypocritical.

>>5697199

Damn an actually interesting YouTube video...and on literature

>>5697199
/pol/ please go and stay go

>>5697442
You can't be ahead of your time at detecting propaganda that doesn't exist. He was a reactionary out of interest for the cause, and Andre Gide did a better work at that without name calling and what not.

>>5697777

>propaganda didn't exist in the 30s and 40s

m8....

>>5697794
>All propaganda is the same
That's like saying that you made an anti air turret designed to stop an F16 in 1950. Being able to do it doesn't mean that it was the intention.

>>5697199
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iulaZcUt5WA&

i keep hearing shit about the Frankfurt school...

>>5697199
i want /pol/ to go

>>5697199

http://orwell.ru/library/essays/wiw/english/e_wiw

"Why I write" , Orwell.

Very good essay.

>>5697925
I want people to stop saying "go back to /pol/" whenever someone's post triggers them.

So what's his thesis?

>>5697925
>>5697957

we live in the trigger culture

>>5697957
People said "go back to (insert disdained board here)" way before /pol/ existed.

>>5697964
Ramblings.

>>5698007

>>5698019
So, what was the thesis?

>>5698023

It should be obvious within the first 10mins or so

isn't this the guy who wrote The Wandering Who?

>>5697925
this is your 3rd time saying this

just stop

>>5697199
>Gilad Atzmon

>>5697236
its basically reportage from his participation in the spanish american war. it focuses a lot on factional politics of groups you're probably unfamiliar with unless you have studied the conflict. the next biggest focus are the routines of soldiering, and finally european politics at the time, with an emphasis on german and soviet involvement in the conflict. it is not his best work but for any fedora'd out teenager intent on understanding orwell (why? i did it and he's not brilliant, read herman hesse), its essential.

>>5699527

>Read hesse

wtf does Hesse have to do with politics at all? he's dumber than a bag of bricks, all he can talk about is "muh subjectivity"

>>5697199
/pol/ go and never come back