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Im reading DUNE for the first time and its really great

also Philip K Dick is fucking trash, he should have gotten a writer to flesh out his ideas, reading do androids dream of electric sheep feels like reading a really really bad blade runner fanfiction

>> No.5654744

>>5654727
you mean blade runner feels like a really bad fan fiction of androids. also, yeah, dune is great. bought children the other night. can't wait to read it.

>> No.5654752

>>5654744
>>5654727
i think you both mean do androids and blade runner both suck a massive cock and philip loves dick cant write his way out of a wet paper bag

>> No.5654771

>>5654752
To be fair on him I don't imagine you could write your way out of an inanimate object

>> No.5654773

>tfw Paul and Gurney are reunited

>> No.5654798

>>5654773
I was afraid there was gonna be some melodramatic shit where they ahve to kill eachother or something but the last third is pretty comfy.

>> No.5654803

The Dick is fucking great, VALIS got me into Gnosticism

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5654858

"feels like reading a really really bad blade runner fanfiction"

you poor, poor, dumbfuck. dune is great but jesus. this this is too fucking priceless. so screencapping for posterity you brainstem deficient assrag. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh jesus someone make it stop!

>> No.5654871

I'm reading Dune right now. I'm about 300 pages in and I'm finding it hard to want to keep reading. The setting is pretty interesting, but all of the characters are boring as fuck and the story isn't all that interesting. I'm trying to make myself finish it since I've gotten this far, but I'm putting it off since I still have about 150 pages.

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>>5654771
you're probably correct about that, but i would be far less of a faggot while failing the same task

>> No.5654904

>>5654871
If Paul is already with the sand people and you're not liking it there's not much more that you'll like. It's okay, not everyone has to like every book, tastes vary.

>> No.5654910

PKD is the only sci fi author worth reading

>> No.5655013

>>5654727
Stop reading after book 3.
If you're skeptical of my reccomendation, read book 4. It's alright but way off from the older books.
And then 5 and 6 are just completely different and much worse.

Everything past that is complete garbage written by his son.

But yea, Dune is pretty great, and Messiah and Children are good followups, but much more plot related and less political allegory charged (which is good or bad depending on your view)

>> No.5655047

>>5655013
>much more plot related and less political allegory charged
So worse?
How much?

>> No.5655059

>>5655047
Well there's still politics, but they read more like sequels to the first book than how Dune read, where you could tell it was supposed to bring something into your mind about real world politics. It's fun, watching where the characters go and how they deal with the changing times, but it just feels a little more like that's the main focus with no big idea.
I hope I'm making ANY amount of sense. I could also be completely off base, maybe I just didn't get the allegory like I did in the first book.

I still like them about as much as I hate Heretics and Chapterhouse.

>> No.5655086

>>5655059
I think I get the distinction you're trying to make, and how Dune commented on real world politics and the use of religion was one of the main points for me. I guess I'll read the other two eventually just to re unite with old friends.

>> No.5655093

>>5655086
Yes, do it. I'd even recommend it. Things get a little weird at the end of 3 but it's still pretty solid.

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5655289

>>5655047
>Stories that revolve around politics

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5655315

>>5655289
Love you too.
I hope your dream of everyone enjoying the same things comes soon!

>> No.5655347

>>5654871
My experience exactly.
Years later, I said fuck it and read Children on a very boring vacation and really liked it. It's still my favorite.
But the I had to read the others for backstory...

>> No.5655368

>>5654871
I read the whole thing and fully agree with this statement. Read Heinlein instead, anon.

>> No.5655399

reading PKD fucking sucks because he can barely write, but god damnit he came up with some cool shit

>> No.5655847

It's a pity that so many people start reading PKD with Androids. All of his pre-1970s SF is - at best - great ideas with weak prose, but Androids has an even more first-draft style to it than many of his other 1960s books.

The guy could really write when he tried, though, so his non-SF 'mainstream' fiction and his 1970s stuff is where he's at his best.

>> No.5655865

Ubik is great fuck you

>> No.5655868

>>5655865
too bad PKD's talent is not ubikuitous

>> No.5656084

>>5654727
>reading do androids dream of electric sheep feels like reading a really really bad blade runner fanfiction
The book is a million times better, Jesus Christ. I don't even compare the two because then I would completely hate the film - it's such a fucking bad rendition.

>> No.5656094

The series should have ended at the second book. The first builds Paul up as an inhuman messiah and then the second shows his fallibility. It felt wrapped up and finished.

I couldn't finish even God Emperor. I can only take so much of Herbert preaching his authoritarianism and mystic bullshit through Leto's internal monologue.

>> No.5656129

>>5654727
It's important that you read the DUNE series at least to God Emperor, even though children is shit. But God Emperor is pretty much required.

>> No.5656135

>>5655868
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5656932

>>5654858
stop forcing it you fag