/lit/ - Literature

I lol'd. This book is the anti-/pol/.

How could you possibly have expected that.

>>5623987
I truly thought that this book would be about Europeans being superior to all other races in terms of physiological make-up and intelligence, leading to the grandest empires and campaigns of all time.

Anyone got template?

>>5623998
this is the same as OP's

>>5624112
A good third of the book is your "what I expected" pic, complete with pontifications on the nature of history. Are you really this butthurt about a great realist novel having "boring talky passages"? Go read ASOIAF.

>>5623958
roman corn, where you at

>>5623958

>Guns Jews Steel

1 word OP: Domesticated Zebras.

>>5623993

Are you disappointed

>>5624112
God I love Lou Charmelle, such a shame she quit porn

That feel when all the books I've read lately have been what I expected them to be like, so I can't make any new expectations charts.

>tfw dont have enough imagination to make one of these ebin maymays

>>5624600
>tfw you're such a retarded shitposter you call every image macro a meme
>tfw you probably post "LE MAX SUPER MEMZ XPPPP" and believe that the person you're quoting is the problem

>tfw no photoshop at university
>can only make these four months a year

>>5624634
are you serious
download gimp
actually i think one could make that stuff even with an image viewer with very basic editing like irfan, paint should fine too albeit less convenient

>>5624658
paint is 100% fine

>>5624610
I thought about calling it a macro but I went with irony instead

>>5624299
That book was shit

>>5624396
http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/variables/zebra.html

>>5623958

>>5626046
is that a real Axis propaganda poster?
I need some fascist propaganda

>>5623958
Thanks for the warning. The title got me interested.
/pol/ already declared it b8.

>>5623958

>>5626065
Don't forget the homo-eroticism!

>>5626075
The classic that started it all

>>5624868
dave eggers is the fred durst of literature
avoid at all costs

>>5626051
>Soviet
>Fascist

>>5626105
this is not what I was implying at all

pls r8

>>5626075
Did you know corn was actually introduced to Europe by Columbus, Now you know

>>5626129
for just the last story it's accurate

but there are like 4 other stories in it

>>5626075

corn didnt exits until columbus brung it from brazil anon xD

>>5623958
i dont wanna be racist but u can tell what race someone is by looking at the bones

I heard "chaos worship" and I got a recommendation to read it from /x/ so I assumed the worst. Was pleasantly surprised at how it turned out.

>>5626075
DUDE CORN LMAO

>>5624610
>you call every image macro a meme

Every image macro IS a meme. The very form 'image macro' is a meme.

FIGHT ME FAGGOTS

>>5626358
This is the same sort of argument as "everything's natural maaaaan" that only applies briadly and helps no one.

>>5626358

every image macro partakes in the image macro meme, not every image macro is a meme in itself

>>5626363
>This is the same sort of argument as "everything's natural maaaaan"

No, it's not. It's the argument where I take the proposition "Image macros are not memes" and assert that it is false (which it is).

I suspect that you're confused. The snobbishness around the use of the word 'meme' is properly reserved (insofar as snobbishness can be properly reserved) for those who regard 'meme' as referring *exclusively* to image macros. You've gotten your posturing snobbery backwards, friend.

>>5626075
FUCK

>>5626075
ah yes, here we go.

>>5626373
You clearly missed the point then.

>>5626430
well then what was the point

>>5626075
this was supposed to be my chance to post the corn ;_; I guess I'll have to wait to next thread. And ps. corn was the word for grain abck then ya dingbat ;)

>>5626075
niceme.me

>>5626075
aww shit this has triggered my autism, im gonna say it, I have to say it.........

those scenes in expected aren't from caesars time, fuck, the historical inaccuracy is killing me.

Could someone kindly explain the corn thing to me?

>>5626647

Yeah, I wouldn't mind either.

>>5626647
>>5626661
How do you guys ever expect to read books if you suck this much at inference or basic historical knowledge?

>>5626647
>>5626661
Augustus liked to get porked in his "corn-hole" with a primitive strap-on

>>5626663

A familiarity with Caesar's account of his Gallic campaign, which is what I take to be necessary to understand whatever the corn thing is about, is considerably more than 'basic' historical knowledge.

As for 'inference' - does Caesar talk about corn a lot in it? Is that the joke?

PS. How do you ever expect to get laid if your every waking moment is a search for grounds, however flimsy, to look down on others? Spoiler alert: you won't.

>>5626663
>implying you knew before someone explained the shit to you.

>>5626647
Waging war is mostly about logistics and the logistics of providing grains for hundreds of thousands of soldiers

>>5626683
>Augustus liked to get porked in his "corn-hole" with a primitive strap-on

What does that have to do with Caesar's Gallic campaigns?

>>5626690

Right, that makes sense. So he talks about corn a lot, then.

How droll.

>>5626689
This is what projection actually looks like

>>5626700
I'm not projecting. I asked a simple question about something I didn't know. You don't seem to know what projecting actually is, nor do you seem to know much about corn.

>>5626705
>I'm not projecting
Yeah, you are.
>>5626699
This is not difficult to work out if you are not retarded. You will gain little from reading the books discussed here.

>>5626667
What is this I don't even

>>5626724
>You will gain little from reading the books discussed here.

Don't worry, I can always filter you.

>>5626724
If you're this much of an insufferable cunt in real life, you've got a tough road ahead of you, boyo.

>>5626734
>this much of an insufferable cunt in real life

You know he's not. People only act like that online if they can't IRL.

>boyo

I thought I was the only insomniac Paddy on here.

>>5626734
I endear myself to people and know when to cut off to ride annoying them into laughter and making people actually mad.
>>5626730
I don't care. Some idiot caught mad and has been spamming epic threads with my name. I only have it on because I'm too lazy to clear it between boards.

>>5626075
does anyone have the pic for "The History of Corn" or whatever?

>>5626730
>DOLPHIN MAGIC: THE FIRST ENCOUNTER (Book 1; Dolphin Series) ISBN 1- 880485-65-6; 311 pages; $12.25. By: Terrill Miles Burke. Publisher: Alpha-Dolphin Press. This prophetic time-travel novel follows Maggie & Bill's journey into the future via Bill's matter transmitter, when they & others safely escape Earth's axis tilts in 1999. Maggie & Bill are guided by telepathic Dolphin Masters who lead them on one exciting adventure after another.

>>5626075

>>5626874
>they & others safely escape Earth's axis tilts

This has inspired me to write an adventure story where two plucky children meet a magic necrotising fasciitis bacteriophage and, with it (and others) safely escape Earth's rotation.

>>5626075
ebin

>>5626075
Please explain this to a noob

>>5624875
>muh everyone is equal
BE SURE TO RACE MIX TO DESTROY YOUR WHITE PEOPLE!

>>5628433
um

what?

>>5626075
The word corn means grain you fucking imbecile

>>5628414
In the writings of Caesar's Commentaries, much of the problems Caesar faced was distributing and securing the "Corn" of the Gaulic tribes to be used for his troops. But corn is a poor translation and actually refers to the local grain of the area.

also>>5626075
that map in the 2nd panel wouldn't have been from Julius' time.

>>5628452
Stop quoting that Yale lecture, it's fucking retarded.

>>5628635
No u are

>>5628611
>corn is a poor translation

The term corn was originally used to refer to any staple crop. The specific association of the term with maize is a relatively recent phenomenon.

I fell for it, didn't I

>>5626042
rekt

/pol/ is so god damn dumb

>>5626075
akshually there wasn't any corn back then, I don't know if you knew that but I did

>>5626075
epic kek

>>5626075
ZOMG U POASTED IT XDD

god damn it Stephen King

>>5628572
>Cosmic Trigger
When an SJW gets gangbanged by the Sun, the Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus, and is invited to go stargazing.

>>5628635
what Yale lecture?

>>5626051
Yes it is, I remember seing in in history lesson

although this could be a manufactured memory

accurate

>>5626075

Is corn the new Max Stirner?

>>5624875

Come on now, Crash is nowhere near as Jissom filled as the Naked Lunch.

>>5632017
it has 5000% more instances of the word pubis though

>>5626075
the corn meme

>>5626084
>A New York Times Notable Book

>>5626129
Haaahahaha

>>5626075
The Gallic wars happened before Rome took all that land.

>>5626075
/it/ continues to construct the most ebin memes of all time.

>>5624396
You can't domesticate zebras just because they have a similar body shape to a horse, you tard.

>>5632719
It's two guys at best. Fregg is such a better meme.

>>5626040

>>5631461
Haha, I'm reading this now, but wouldn't dominoes be more apt?

>>5632725
You can. It would simply take many generations of selective breeding to do it.

>>5632741
lmao

>>5626046
What book it that?

>>5631461
>>5632738
Not on phone anymore, so a pic

>implying GGS isn't utter bullshit and everyone with half a brain sees that the development of native american tribes pretty much wrecks the whole premise apart

>>5632782
please explain how

>>5632789
Because there were plenty of native american tribes in the southern quebec area which has pretty much the same climate+resources as european countries.

Yet they were what now when the europeans arrived? Civilizations little better than what was common in the stone age? Yeah, nah that's bullshit.

>>5632869
it's probably not because they are brown people but because they didn't have any competition

if everyone around you is a horse loving hippie that praises nature and fights with sticks there is no real reason to step it up

>>5632934
If anything Europe had to get its shit together because of the Ottoman and Mongol presences recking their shit.

>>5628414
Don't read translations.

>>5632934
>it's probably not because they are brown people

Why do people automatically assume this is your stance if you critizise GGS?
Anyway I'm pretty much on the same page with the competition thing though.

Niggas didn't harden the fuck up so they got knocked the fuck out.

>>5632731

>be guy who made the Fregg Meme
>See people enjoying the glory of new /lit/ memes
>don't want the spotlight to shift away
>make this post

>>5632869
how talks about the importance of domesticated animals like: horses, cows, pigs, sheep etc that they did not have for manpower, food, or other resources except the llama really in southern america

I don't think it his explanation covers everything, but it is not as bad as you want it to be you fucking autist

>>5633244
>lying on an anonymous vietnamese tapestry forum
What's the point? You don't even use a trip, why would you claim the credit? Normally I would just suspect anyone who said what you just said was lying, but this time I'm absolutely certain, because I made fregg.

>>5633244
Fregg was a multi person effort with varying degrees of success. Can't find a pic of the rest of the thread but there were less funny contributions.

>>5624396
>>5632725
>>5632747

This guy was wrong anyway, the Africans domesticated cattle on their own or got it real soon. Ethiopians domesticated the donkey and onager. They got sheep and goats from Mesopotamia. They were fine with animals. Maybe one can make the argument of domesticated animals for the Americas and Australia but not Africa.

Ancients grew up where populations were packed. Greece was small so was Egypt (the inhabitable part) and Mesopotamia, China and India were densely populated. Africa is just too big. If people didn't like their ruler, they just left.

And you can't domesticate some animals as easily as others because of their meanness.

>>5633276
>but it is not as bad as you want it to be

It is though.
It is.

Also there have been horses and plenty of other animals in NA that could have been domesticated.

>>5633365
modern horses died out about 12,000 years ago in the Americas

>>5633365
> Also there have been horses and plenty of other animals in NA that could have been domesticated.
Kek. No. The horse was introduced by the Spaniards. The largest domesticable animal in North America was the turkey. No joke.

amazing book

>>5626075
everyone is saying corn didn't exist back then?

how would it be possible for corn to have never not existed?

>>5633511
Maize is a crop from the Americas.

>>5633448
>The largest domesticable animal in North America was the turkey. No joke.

Techniqually you could domesticate a bison, given that you breed the smaller ones over a few generations.

>>5633511
the pilgrims invented corn you fucking dingo

>>5633511

People are unaware, or are humorously feigning to be unaware, that 'corn' is a generic term referring to basically any staple grain.

>>5626065
Duh no shit.

>>5626056
I always listen to /pol/

>>5626359
You make the book seem really cool.

>>5626385
This was a really important argument to have.

>>5626762
>when to cut off to ride annoying them
Do you talk like this?

>I endear myself to people
Says you.

>>5628439
Thank god it didn't live up to your boring expectations.

>>5634084
Every time you post you are admitting that I won so hard you may never recover. Every time you assert that some boring fact about me is untrue your jelly overflows the container.

>>5631461
The literary equivalent of Connect 4 or dominoes sounds interesting. I've read The Castle of Crossed Destinies and don't understand how it's literary Connect 4, though.

>>5632741
Duh. How do you people go into these books without the least bit of cursory knowledge about them?

>>5632869
Do we have to have this argument every three days? It doesn't surprise me that racists are trolling /lit/ looking for any excuse to post about their pet theory of why the European white man is genetically superior to any other race.

>>5634096
Nobody knows what you're talking about.

>>5633298
>>5633341

I'm that guy you replied to

I was making fun of the post I was replying to, I didn't make the Fregg meme.

>>5626075
every thread

>>5634140
You do though and that's all that matters. Your impotent attempt at "biting back" is delightful, I'n really grinning ear to ear that you remain this assblasted and predictable.

>>5626347
Principia Discordia is pretty well couched in Taoism and Eastern Mysticism. I was pleasantly surprised too - I expected shitty SubGenius stuff when I started.

>>5626891
Sorry, Madeleine L'engle has already done it.

>>5634064
It is.

>>5623993

No you didn't. Don't lie on the internet.

>>5631160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyZ4ia25gg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFmf4T5L3o

She really emphasizes the Moby Dick thing.

>>5624112
Worksafe board you stupid degenerate faggot.

>>5626699
:^)

I actually enjoyed this a lot

>>5632869
It's not about just climate. The main point of his argument is that the Eurasian continent is stretched out on a horizontal axis, which means that a large stretch of land has the same flora and fauna, generally speaking.

Why do you people start posting opinions on /lit/ without even reading the material?

>>5637324
>MFW My teacher and female classmates found Heathcliff dreamy, and thought WH is a love story, not a revenge story.

This is the same teacher who scoffed at Shakespeare because he was a "white male"

>>5637628
should've scoffed at him for being pleb lowart trash

>>5626075
le triticum boeoticum meme.

Read the tranlation they said.... no one will ever know they said...

>mfw I only read books because they are canon and don't have enough of a suspicion of what a book might be about to make any of these

>>5632755
Confessions of a Mask - Yukio Mishima

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_a_Mask

In short, he is a gay /pol/ dude. Awesome writing style. His bio is really cool.

>>5634089

Illiad is literally the "What I expected" of that image, though.

>>5636874
How do you get into Yale when you use the word "interesting" to articulate an opinion about literature?

>>5639832
do you know where you are?

Good book but I hate that word so fucking much

>>5637916
will check it out thanks

I still don't know what I read

>>5640124

I sympathise, but you can't have known much about Burroughs going in. I mean you could reverse the latter two images and I'm sure it would reflect the experiences of a fair few readers.

>>5632180
>an anime reaction image

Someone make a Dostoyevsky one, I'm not clever enough.

Here ya go

>>5623958
Wait, so is this book no good? Bought it cheap because someone told me it was worthwhile

>>5640527
It's pretty infantile.

>>5640694
sciolistic. What the fuck autocorrect.

>>5623982
It's anti-intelligence as well.

>>5637653
high art.

>>5632771
underrated book

>>5626075
time and time again this has proven to be the most epic image of all time.

Anyone got the one for Notes from the Underground?

>>5626075
Woah that's a pretty epic meme you've got yourself there, kid.

>>5642954
What?

>>5644546

I have absolutely no idea what the third panel indicates. Granted that I haven't read the book, but when these are done well, it doesn't matter if you haven't read it.

>>5626075
Cornsar's Cornmentaries

>>5641248
im reading this now. the druggy moments im getting tired of, but im loving his opinions and facts about the kitchen in his experience. his show is great too

I know there's already a ton of Blood Meridian ones, but I thought I'd contribute another one.

>>5644639
pretty good

>>5644414

pls respond

>>5644414
no

>>5644648
thanks anon

>>5624610
ebin

>>5626075

i am a newfag

>>5644895
Spooks everywhere.

Also the thing in of itself and my property.

>>5624396
Zebras are extremely aggressive. They're extremely hard to tame.

>>5644887
Тор кек

Rate and admire please

>>5638390
did you only read Jason's section or something

>>5633363
heh

>>5645113
So true lol

>>5645301
Huh?

>>5645795
>>5645301

Never mind, I was thinking of a different book.

>>5626075
Enjoy

>>5645113
Wow fuck you, it took a long time to build the atmosphere, but then everything seemed that much more intense at the end. It wasn't meant to be an action adventure game.

>>5626075
Do people just reply to this for fun or what ?

>>5646198
They think it's a meme in the making.

>>5645960
I'm considering saving that.

>>5646232
>in the making
it's already a hot meme anon

>>5646240
They think pushing it more will only make it greater. That's how people get bored of memes.

>>5646250
but thats how memes work, thats the whole point

>>5624875
Don't forget

>Glands

>>5646293
there was both.

poor bulls

>>5646300
i stole this pic, but made a tiny addition that stays true to the novel. do you like it?

>>5626079
Squeeze that sperm!

>>5640474
I thought I was being funny until I realised someone had done this before
oh well

>>5626359
For the most part, I agree. Although, everything after Freeside felt like a heist flick, so I would've added something like that to What I Got

>>5642954
lol

>>5639913
yeah i just read it and it sums it up pretty aptly

all though it's nice that he really did try and give modernism a fair shake

>>5628452
I heard Blood Meridian was brutal and crude as fuck and it was written by McCarthy, i picked it up, and holy shit it is brutal and cruse as fuck and it was written my McCarthy.

>>5646573
Is this worth the 400+ pages? I read the first 30 or so and thought it was fucking stupid. Entertaining, but incredibly retarded.

>>5646691
You're trying to read this shit chronologically? Are you deaf?

>>5637628
>scoffed at Shakespeare because he was a "white male"
I refuse to believe that this is true, entirely because I do not want to believe someone who thinks this way to be teaching people about literature.

>>5640460
What the fuck are you doing on 4chan?

>>5646691
haven't found a single thing that wasn't shit in it yet

even the few parts people (likely those who wrote them) mentioned as uncommonly good were shit

>>5623982
>Implying /pol/ hasn't exhaustively debunked the claims made by Diamond several times now.

>>5640460

>>5646903
i'm a bit hesitant to believe claims of "debunking" coming from a board who fell for literal troll images and infographics from /new/ and /n/

>>5646391
Murakami's ridiculous obsession with shoehorning the names of "classical" (for lack of a better umbrella term) composers is quite annoying. what was the point of going on about Janaceck's Sinfonietta in 1Q84?

anyway, is colorless tsukuru word reading?

>>5646938
it's annoying to you because you're a member of the western audience

for its japanese audience, it generates a western or american aesthetic for their books that isn't necessarily present in other japanese literature, and murakami's american aesthetic is very distinct to them, I hear

>>5644575
Me too. But you just can't take Anthony without his drugs, but man the disgusting things are sensitizing me. The advices on culinary skills are awesome though.

>>5646933
>>5646780
>mrw plebs can't take the heat

>>5628611
"grain," Old English corn, from Proto-Germanic *kurnam "small seed" (cognates: Old Frisian and Old Saxon korn "grain," Middle Dutch coren, German Korn, Old Norse korn, Gothic kaurn), from PIE root *gre-no- "grain" (cognates: Old Church Slavonic zruno "grain," Latin granum "seed," Lithuanian žirnis "pea"). The sense of the Old English word was "grain with the seed still in" (as in barleycorn) rather than a particular plant.

>>5647163
wow, what a shallow analysis. I hope this is bait

anybody got a suggestion on Cohle-esque characters? edgy and philosophical at the very least

>>5647163
Top marks for completely misunderstanding an analogy.

>>5637653
So meta, jet so true. i like it.

>>5642954
I... don't get it.

http://eska.livejournal.com/1627938.html
>Amerikanski kids read Pynchona, Vonneguta & Dostoiekskyi and then make pictures...

>>5647759
that part where he says >omigosh

wtf

>>5647759
Is it worth reading?

>>5647771

for amusement, sure, but it has basically no literary merit

it's primarily entertaining as a look at what /pol/ was like before the internet

>>5647779
>it has basically no literary merit
lol

>>5626075

>>5646232
>>5646250

can't handle le corn I see

>>5626075
holy shit

>>5646767
>I refuse to believe that this is true

It's obviously not. It's a commonplace for academics to refer to the rather homogenous nature of the canon as privileging white male perspectives. It's also a commonplace for angry morons to misconstrue this as hostility to or contempt for white males.

>>5648345
It's also commonplace among some to assume an academics can't be a moron. It's, also, yet commonplace for academics to be morons, how inconsiderate.

>>5648360
>also commonplace
>an academics
>It's, also, yet commonplace

Now all I need is to find out if you're angry or not.

>>5648345
There are probably some times and places in which some people, including academics, have had hostility to or dismissed some of the authors within the canon. Which is the only claim that we're talking about here - that somebody dismissed and scoffed at Shakespeare. I don't know whether that teacher actually did, but I absolutely believe that people have done that, including academics.

Like, be real here, talking about the canon privileging white male perspectives is absolutely a criticism of the canon, and one that is sometimes used to dismiss not only the contents of the canon but also the individual works and writers considered to be within it.

>>5648370
>Which is the only claim that we're talking about here - that somebody dismissed and scoffed at Shakespeare

No, it's a much more specific claim than that: that somebody "dismissed and scoffed at" Shakespeare *because he was a white male*.

>one that is sometimes used to dismiss not only the contents of the canon but also the individual works and writers considered to be within it.

But I've never actually seen that happen, and yet numerous times I've seen idiots misconstrue a simple claim that the canon has historically excluded non-white male perspectives as "bashing white males" etc.

Like, yes, it is possible that it's true. But playing the stats, in my experience, it's far more likely to be an angry moron looking to bond with other angry morons over Those Deluded PC-Obsessed Leftist Academics, Can You Believe What They've Gone And Done Now (And You're Paying For It) etc.

>>5648390
That's my experience as well personally, and I think it's a fair generalization these days. I don't think you see the argument much anymore. I think there was a time when it was made, though, much more commonly than now.

Not that people are bashing white males - I do not think that, and I think critiquing the canon on that basis is broadly valid. But like, yeah, that's been leveraged into a criticism of the authors within at times. Which to me is not surprising - I would be more surprised if, you know, academics who were politically radical hadn't done so. I don't agree with the argument but it's in many ways logical.

>>5648390
>what is the school of resentment

>>5648450

I believe that's a term employed by professional angry moron Harold Bloom. What do I win?

>>5648465
One stubborn ideology, I guess? Enjoy

>>5648472

Man, you're going to have to start offering better incentives for people to answer your stupid questions.

>>5632651
Scars of mirrodin was a good block