/lit/ - Literature

>>5544891
cause ur gay

Because the apocalypse is possible.

Because, the fall of capitalism is a much more complex system, the earth could end because of a stray asteroid. What a banal platitude
>inb4 wallace picture

>>5544891
Because they were just on imgur.

>>5544891
Because nothing has to happen after the end of the world

>>5544891
Why is it easier to spend years developing useless, unsubstantiated theories than being a productive human being for a week?

Because Fukuyama is everybody's wish come true

Because IT'S HAPPENING

because there's no end to capitalism son, the only plan is to keep consuming.

>>5544920
What are you talking about?

>>5544925
Why couldn't you consume without capitalism?

>>5544998
what would you consume?

>>5544891
Fisher is a dirty jew

>>5544918
This?

Is it true? Are we just lazy louts?

>>5544925
Capitalism is an obvious spook.

>>5545006
Food. It comes out of the ground, not from money.

>>5545028
But if everyone has to grown their own food, then who produces all the other things we need to keep up our standards of living?

>>5545028
>It comes out of the ground

what have you been eeting?

>>5545033
Probably some industrial workers, who will likely trade their produce for some kind of wealth which they will use to procure food and other goods from agrarian workers.

>>5545047
How would they trade it? What do they use as reference for the value of the goods/foods?

>>5545047
>trade

How bourgeois!

>>5545051
BTFO
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>>5544891
Because the New Testament doesn't include the Proletarian Revolution of St. John.

It's because most people are thick and capitalism and communism are gods themselves. And then the average Joe is only angsty about communism because it's supposedly a death that humanity can bring on itself, probably on a psychological par with declaring your allegiance with the devil. And then the capitalist delusion is exclusively American, because all the rest of us know what capitalism really means. Thank you, warmongering Americans.

>>5545051
They trade it based on the subjective value applied to it by this particular buyer, contrast that with the value expected by the seller and come to a mutually beneficial agreement.

The same way people are able to sell things over the internet, each party has an idea of how much they expect to make or are willing to spend.

>>5544921
The central that's soon to begin working again with zero casualties?

>>5545033
Standards of living are a lie, why would so many people be taking anti depressants and smoking pot if everything worked like this? Being under ocupied is bad for humans.

>>5545051
The willingness of the other party to share their product or to work to help produce it.

>>5545066
That's not how supply and demand works.

>>5545090
That's also not how supply and demand works.

>>5545033
People in africa are happier than people in the western world. Our standard of living sucks ass.

>>5545094
One party has a supply
The other party has a demand
Each has a good idea of how much they're willing to put into this transaction and how much they expect to leave with.

That's all they need to know to make a good trade. Even kids in primary school know this.

>>5545101
kek

>>5545100
And still that's how some societies worked. We'd just have to drop the huge and absolute city state, I don't see what's wrong with that.

>>5545108
Both parties need to have a demand and a supply

>>5545108
Monopolies are very rare and only occur in highly specialized branches. How do you determine value of a good in oligopoly and polypoly situations?

>>5545121
Party A:
>Supply: Agrarian produce
>Demand: Industrial produce

Party B
>Supply: Industrial produce
>Demand: Agrarian produce

What's the problem?

>>5545128
To quote myself
>They trade it based on the subjective value applied to it by this particular buyer, contrast that with the value expected by the seller and come to a mutually beneficial agreement.

The value of the good is determined by how much the customer is willing to pay for it.

>>5545060
Jesus smashing the money booths in the temple seems like a somewhat revolutionary act. It's the same guy who said it's easier to get a camel through a needle hole than a rich guy into heaven. I doubt he would be a fan of hardcore captialism.

>>5545131
In any reasonable scenario there will be a hundred different agents taking the role of party B and a few million agents taking the role of party A. Every single one of them has their own expectations and their own strategy.

>>5545139
"The customer" is not a single person. Nobody gives a shit how much you are willing to pay at most, if there are a hundred thousand people who are willing to pay more.

Always some dude pops up and screams "money" but shouldn't we think in resources instead? Either there is enough potential to feed a nation or there isn't. Just having more money doesn't mean you automatically got something to eat. Also true cost and so on.

>>5545101
Some people in Africa aren't very happy at all.

>>5545154
How do you compare different resources?

>>5545162
That's le joke

>>5545144
This is true. And?

Obviously real life would be significantly more complicated than two hypothetical people making a trade, but ultimately the only change is that now each party gets a greater range of choice in who they can trade with which also serves to make the market much more competitive. All of which would pervert the buyer and seller's perception of what constitutes a fair deal, but the same process I've been describing still applies.

>>5545128
You wouldn't have them without a capitalist society, or a similar variant. I mean, I was taking this thread as capitalism going through what the world would go through in an apocalypse, total destruction and what not.

>>5545154
True. Without a monye based system we would probably go to a feudalistic society based on militaristic power.

>>5545150
Yes it is.

You're describing competition, which obviously will always exist. But this doesn't matter because it will still always ultimately come down to two parties trading based on the value they've applied to their respective goods.

Would the seller be free to choose someone more agreeable as a customer? Yes.
Does it change what I said about how value is determined? No.

>>5545168
What do you mean with compare?

>>5545181
I don't know. Everybody seems to think in terms of what existed, maybe with increasing automatisation and connection a new system might arise that couldn't exist before.

>>5544891
Been reading Mark Fisher eh OP?

>>5545269
Maybe...

>>5544918
this

>>5544918
Nothing is pretty hard to imagine. There never can be just nothing.

>>5544891
Is there a difference?