/lit/ - Literature

>>5384351

We must create for ourselves the values that we want to value.

These are the only values worth valuing.

>>5384370
pull the lever.
you are essentially saving the lives of 4 people

>>5384441
And now you are responsible for someone's death. If you didn't pull the lever you wouldn't be repsonsible for any of their deaths.

>>5384351
>>5384370

Easy:

Pulling the lever would be explicit murder, so you have to let the train press on toward the five; however, you can have fun with it and make it a better experience for four of the people. What you do is you run up to them, choose the most attractive one, and just start fucking his/her throat like wild. Tell the rest, "We may die, but at least you won't die while being orally raped." As you hear the sound of the train crushing its first victim and feel yourself jizzing deep into your victim's throat, it will be the most intense experience of your life. Nothing could have prepared you for this moment. "Choo choo," you'll think as your hot cum turns into a 150 mph bloodbath.

>>5384446
Yes you would, deciding to not pull the lever is as much a choice as deciding to do so.

>>5384461
Just because it's a choice doesn't somehow make you responsible. You are letting the universe work on its own by doing nothing, by pulling the lever you are literally murdering a person.

>>5384446
>If you didn't pull the lever you wouldn't be repsonsible for any of their deaths.
yes you would.
whether you like it or not, you are in a position in which you must make the choice.
when the variable action is literally as simple as pulling a lever and you are the only one around to do so, the burden falls upon you.

the situation does not change in any functional way when you reverse the positions of the 1 person and the 5 people other than that the position of the lever has the opposite effect

>>5384485
Not the guy you are responding to, but assume that there would be no one on the other track. Following your logic pulling the lever and saving 5 people with nothing lost would be as morally valid as letting the universe do its own thing and letting 5 people die because of your indifference.

>>5384351

The Hot Topic of philosophy.

>>5384351
here's some food for thought:
that train is on a schedule and other trains are as well, presumably made to accommodate the schedules of each other.
that being said, changing the direction of that train would mean it is going somewhere the rail company is not expecting it to go.

best case scenario from pulling the lever: one person dies and the train is stopped at the wrong station, causing confusion

worst case scenario from pulling that lever: one person dies initially, then a collision occurs. maybe with a passenger train or one carrying toxic cargo. i cant say or certain how many deaths that would cause, but it would sure as hell be more than 5

>>5384370
turn 360 and usain bolt the fuck outta there

>>5384504
Yes.