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5363759 No.5363759 [Reply] [Original]

Is alt-lit shit because or in spite of its doing its best to be shit?

>> No.5363786

>>5363759
it's shit because it's postmodern

it's easy to be postmodern

>> No.5363808

>>5363786
... so that's a "because"?

>> No.5363842

why is it shit

>> No.5363954

>>5363842
That's just a wider way of phrasing the same question

>> No.5363960

>>5363759
If only we could spend a few minutes in the goat tower we'd probably know.

>> No.5364042

i choose goat tower

>> No.5364047

>>5363759
It'd be pretty awesome to have breadsticks, but I have just got to know the mysteries of Goat Tower.

>> No.5364064

>>5363759
I mean.. >tfwnogf, but that tower looks pretty sweet, man.

>> No.5364083
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5364083

We all changed after that thread

>> No.5364100

>>5364083
>>5364042
SLAVES WILL BE SLAVES EVEN IF THEIR MASTERS HAVE ANOTHER NAME
I CHOOSE GOAT TOWER

>> No.5364135

>>5364083
>>5363759
everyone knows that goat tower is the choice to post because it's the most ridiculous choice so it's funny right? But we've all seen this answer chosen over and over again so it no longer has that shock value. Surely the funniest choice now are the breadsticks?

>> No.5364145

overcome The Will, choose goat tower

>> No.5364146

>>5364083
Every man there was so desperate for human contact, so strangled with isolation, and in one brilliant second we all rebelled against our physical needs when offered the only desire we ever possessed. Why I don't know; perhaps out of spite that we too would fine perfection flawed, or maybe the bravado of the moment was so enjoyable we were willing to die a thousand miserable lives just to have it - the goat tower. Men might have enjoyed other paths more, but only we chosen walked this path

>> No.5364148

>>5364135

No. You simply aren't worthy of the tower.

>> No.5364155

>tfw u will never get to be inside the goat tower

>> No.5364156

>>5364135
goat tower is objectively best, fuck off

>> No.5364158

>>5364148
haha lol very funny. take a step back and look at how unfunny this joke now is. I hate to be negative but this joke has been overplayed. Is anyone actually laughing at "omg goat tower lolsorandom!"? I hope not.

>> No.5364164

are you allowed to have sex with the goats in the tower

>> No.5364166

>>5364158
It's not a joke.

>> No.5364176

>>5364164
The laws of man mean nothing in the realm of goats

>> No.5364184

>>5364176

so you're saying for 10 minutes I may become a god

>> No.5364185

>>5364083
>fuck the girl of your dreams
If she's the 'girl of your dreams', but only ever wants sex, then option B is a trap.
>for the rest of your life
Raises some concerns too.

>> No.5364189

>>5364185

she does everything.

everything.

>> No.5364194

>>5364135
>>5364158
plebs spotted

>> No.5364197

>>5364083
Who the fuck wouldn't choose bread sticks?

>> No.5364199

>>5364189

E V E R Y T H I N G

>> No.5364202

>>5364189
find the cure for cancer n aw m8?

>> No.5364206

>>5364197

I might consider it if it also gave me the ability to put my hand on someone's mouth and a breadstick would be instantly inserted and they either had to eat it or it would disappear without a trace

I don't want to just live alone in my tower of oven fresh, tasty breadsticks, I want to share them with the world

>> No.5364208

>>5364194
>I'm the pleb

>muh goat tower lol i really funny!!! hehehehe

Just listen to yourselves.

>> No.5364220

>>5364208

Butthurt simply doesn't exist in the realm of the goat tower. I pity you.

>> No.5364228
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5364228

Alt-lit is shit because it is the goat tower.

It was stupid and unfunny from the start. It wasn't shocking either, since the structure of our society (everyone wants to be unexpected) makes the unexpected answer the obvious choice to pick. So it is stupid, unfunny and tragically predictable, but everyone decided to be stupid, unfunny, and tragically predicable together. Now they have created an impregnable circlejerk of stupid, unfunny and tragically predictable shit and they will never shut up.

There is one way in which alt lit separates itself from the goat tower, and that is this: the goat tower at least retains some tiny, minuscule shred of ironic separation. Alt lit does not. Alt lit has bought into its own garbage. Steve Roggenbuck not only picked the goat tower, he put together a kick starter to fund his trip out there and now he lives inside the goat tower from which he is posting youtube videos of goats.

>> No.5364265

>>5364228
I don't know why people assume average or common occurrences are automatically bad, a sunrise isn't trite and stupid because it happens daily. It might explain why you're so angry all the time: hating mediocrity and living a common life in all

>> No.5364271

>>5364208
Let's break this down, shall we?

Option B: You fuck the girl of your dreams. You have without a doubt the most satisfying orgasm of you life thus far and, as a result, the most satisfying you ever will have. It's venereal decadence. You will undoubtedly grow bored. You'll want a challenge. In your post-coital wind-down, she'll still want sex. She does everything without question - the relationship becomes shallow and uninteresting. Thanks to her, it will in future be very difficult to establish any new relationships, given that it's imperative you fuck this girl for the rest of your life. Sex will become meaningless, and fall in your priorities to a state of quotidian drudgery.

Option C: You can't sell these breadsticks, nor give them to others. You can assume they're supplied given to the degree of need: fine, you'll never grow hungry. The same problems with the girl arise w/r/t/ your appetite. You'll grow to hate breadsticks. They'll from now on be a ubiquitous feature of your life, which you can never use to better the lives of anyone else. You'll never grow hungry - you'll never have an appetite. Like the girl, it will deprive you of pleasure, in time.

Option A: Ten minutes in the goat tower. Goat or GOAT. You have no way of knowing what resides in the goat tower. In all likelihood it may be goats, but you can never be sure. That, and it's only a ten minute period. Ask yourself: why? Comparatively you can for the rest of all time either fuck the girl of your dreams or enjoy oven fresh breadsticks. But this tower? What resides in it can only be enjoyed for ten minutes. It's in limited supply. It's half an abstraction. Given that the idea will always surpass the reality, and even when the goat tower is instantiated in your life, it lasts only ten minutes (and thus subject to apperception, so even if the reality is underwhelming, in memory it may be exalted). The goat tower will always be unexpected. The goat tower is unknowable in its entirety, and therefore will always remain to some degree false.

>> No.5364272

>>5364228
>now he lives inside the goat tower

lucky bastard

>> No.5364274

>>5364265

I thought the point of his post was that he hated how the common individual tends to favor the "unexpected for the lulz" over a 'mundane but sensible' answer

>> No.5364282

>>5364271

I disagree with your predicted outcomes for the girl and the breadsticks, the worth of an inexhaustible and indefatigable source of comfort for the rest of your existence cannot be ignored

>> No.5364293

>>5364228
This was actually a really good answer.

>> No.5364298

>>5364274
He paints the unexpected as the new expected and then goes on a rant. If he meant something different than the text he wrote didn't display it

>> No.5364313

>>5364271
I came here to post this but you beat it to me.

>>5364282
Breadstick are actually not that good. hTey have a kind of addicting character, the first five or ten (or even twenty) are good, the rest is merely compulsion. Plus breadstick are bad for feeding you, you'd still need to eat something else.

For the girl it's a bit more nuanced, but basically if you don't learn to restrain yourself and listen to her you'll grow disatisfied with sex in general and with sex with her in particular. Plus you won't have a good deal of the interest of a relationship: having to deal with someone who shares some desire and understanding with you but whose desire and goals are not identical to yours. Plus a girl who would always want sex would eventually become a drag (what happens when you don't want sex ?). And finally there's no ego boost since she is in a way compelled to want you.

Both B and C means a significant, irreversible and not always pleasant change in your life. Plus they are kinda twisted (unlimited supply of food from nowhere ? a girl that magically want nothing but fucking me ? that's pretty spooky, even a bit unhealthy).

The goat tower on the other hand is pure bonus. At worst it's ten minutes of boredom.

>> No.5364341

>>5364189
>>5364199
would she eat my shit?

would she vomit on my dick?

>> No.5364359

>>5364341
E
V
E
R
Y
T H I N G

>> No.5364365

>>5364271
>the thinks 10 minutes in the goat tower is comparable to 10 minutes in our normal day to day existence

>> No.5364381

>>5364083
>bitches ain't shit
>salty unnutritious not even whole wheat cancer sticks

I'll choose the goat tower even for the simple reason that it won't fuck with my ataraxia.

>> No.5364451

>>5364228
A+ post

>> No.5364489
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5364489

>>5364313
>it is better maybe having nothing for 10min than having infinite lifetime breadstick supply

>> No.5364492

>>5364489

As a carb-addicted fatass, I confirm this post

>> No.5364494

>>5364271
>In all likelihood it may be goats, but you can never be sure.

Topkek

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5364495

>>5364228
what about alt lit becoming a parody of itself?

>> No.5364515

>>5364495
Shut up man, we're figuring out precisely how awesome goats are.

>> No.5364517

>>5364228

10/10 if read in zizek's voice

>> No.5364536

>>5364489
Everything is in the 'maybe'. Infinite supply of breadstick is essentially infinite supply of useless stuff (bad as food, unsellable, ungivable, not that tasty). It's basically like giving the price of a pack of fifty breadsticks every day, except you can't use the money for anything else than buying breadsticks that you will not be allowed to give or sell.

>> No.5364574

>>5364495
I really REALLY like that picture.

>> No.5364575

>>5364574
Thanks, Lori

>> No.5364578

>>5364574
>>5364575
Stop. It's not funny anymore

>> No.5364581
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5364581

>>5364574
Ehehe.

>> No.5364586

>>5364135
Pathetic

>> No.5364591

>>5364578
Isn't that the point of this thread?

>> No.5364595

>>5364265
>what is aestheticism

>> No.5364607

>>5364578
for you

>> No.5364609
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5364609

>>5364581
here i got you this

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5364616

>>5364591
Holy shit we've gone too deep

This thread is too meta

Abort

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5364624

Who /nicki/ here?

>> No.5364633
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5364633

>>5364624
What the hell. Now /lit/ likes Bitchy Minaj? I didn't think all of you intellectuals were attracted to a big-ass hoe. I guess I was wrong, once more.

>> No.5364641

>>5364633

nigga the power of a big ass breaks down all aesthetic distinctions you should know that already if you aren't a pleb

>> No.5364649

>>5364578
fuck up boy ill hit you over the head with yar own mums dingaling

>> No.5364659

>>5364633
>What the hell. Now /lit/ likes Bitchy Minaj?
Newfag detected, were you even here for the poetry collection?

>> No.5364663

>>5364633
sauce

>> No.5364671

>>5364659
You still remember where to find it?

It was called Minaj a treize or something like that6

>> No.5364673

>>5364663
Don't fall into that trap, friend.

>> No.5364687

>>5364671
>>/lit/thread/S3551765

>> No.5364711
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>>5364687
nice. thanks

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5364715

>>5364659
No, wasn't. I should have erased the "now" from the sentence. It still amazes me.

>>5364663
Don't you recognize her?
Pic related

>> No.5364718

>>5364715
requesting dump

>> No.5364723

>>5364718
You can't possibly be serious.

>> No.5364727

>>5364715
Who is she?

>> No.5364729
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5364729

>>5364723
Is he requesting all of her photos? Because I don't think I fully comprehend.

>> No.5364730

>>5364723
Why?

>> No.5364735
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5364735

>>5364729
All of them. Please

>> No.5364743

>>5364711
damn

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5364756

>>5364735
You seriously need to see a doctor about your sexual disorder. (Speaking a man who has all of her photos stored in my HDD)

>> No.5364760

>>5364756
Please delete this, that image makes me nauseous, I'm not even joking.

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5364761

>>5364756
You're a lucky guy.

>> No.5364768

>>5364756
Oh God, she had a stroke? That's terrible.

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5364774

>>5364768
kekej

>> No.5364776

>>5364735
I don't know why, but this picture terrifies me.

>> No.5364795

>>5364776
that's the point, I think

>> No.5364796
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5364796

>>5364776
Cuz there's spiders!

>> No.5364799

>>5364776

The ominous darkness of the doorway. It's unsettling.

>> No.5364802

>>5364776
It's a quite thrilling picture, actually.

>> No.5364806

>>5364729
Ingrid?

>> No.5364821
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5364821

>>5364806
Yes.

>> No.5364849

>>5364799
I think it's the dog that pushes it over the edge. If it was the door alone, that would be creepy. That dog is at attention though. Waiting. Listening. Something is in the darkness.

>> No.5364851

>>5364821
wow separated at birth and all that jazz

>> No.5364860

>>5364796
>>5364821
Still living in Rj ?

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>>5364821

>> No.5364874

>>5364866
That's more accurate. Both physically and behavior-wise.

>> No.5364883

>>5364860
Rj?

>>5364874
Except I put corn chip in my sandwiches, not cereal

>> No.5364894

>>5364883
As I recall she didn't put cereal but raw macaroni. However, I didn't watch it completely because it made me cringe, and hate teenagers.

>> No.5364925

>>5364894
I haven't seen it in years. Pretty unwatchable most places. I can't stand the ending and what they do with Allison/Sheedy. Blacked it out.
It is a cereal they used to have back then though

She seems addicted to sugar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaLJPjLIdRQ

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5364936

>>5364925
>She seems addicted to sugar
Is that a thing in common you have with the character?

>> No.5364947

>>5364883
Your name is Ingrid B,right ?,if not,just forget,I was friends with a girl that looks so much like you,or Ally Sheedy

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5364954

>>5364947
I also know a girl that looks like her. Pic related

>> No.5364959

>>5364936
I've more of a sweet tooth than a bitter.

>>5364947
No, not an Ingrid.
But what does "living in Rj" mean?

>> No.5364974

>>5364954
Yeah,is like a standard melancholic-sarcastic girl face i guess

>> No.5364984

>>5364959
Rj is the area where this Ingrid used to live

>> No.5364994

>>5364984
Post a picture of your Bergman, if you have one.

>> No.5365020

>>5364994
I don't have one,we're friends a long long time ago,but she was always smart and weird,so I assumed was her,(I still think she is,but don't wanna talk to me through a malasyan cartoon image board)

>> No.5365058 [DELETED] 

>>5365020
That is interesting. Your description fits perfectly my girl. She is smart (kinda) and weird. There are three possibilities to this matter:
1st. There is only one girl. Butterfly, Ingrid, and my girl.
2nd. The physical characteristics (that they all have in common) tend to make a similar personality. (This is the one I agree the most)
3rd. Just mere casualties. They do not have anything to do with each other, or their appearance.

>> No.5365078

>>5365020
That is interesting. Your description fits perfectly my girl. She is smart (kinda) and weird. There are three possibilities to this matter:
1st. There is only one girl. Butterfly, Ingrid, and my girl.
2nd. The physical characteristics (that they all have in common) tend to make a similar personality. (This is the one I agree the most)
3rd. Just mere casualties. They do not have anything to do with each other, or their appearance.
4th. (Extra) I am a complete idiot.

Good night, or day; wherever you are.

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5365080

I still want to know where Rj is

>>5364954
This isn't the same girl is it?
Someone made this comparison pic.

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5365082

>>5365058
The smart,weird girl is pretty much a trope I guess

>> No.5365099

>>5365080
I'm not going to tell you,because you fucking know where Rj is Ingrid !
I gonna leave my email here,talk to me when you get tired of playing games,god night,I'll get drunk anrcht2006@gmail.com

>> No.5365100

>>5365082
MPDG shite < Goat Tower.

>> No.5365110

>>5365080
No, it's not. They don't have anything in common. You must know it better than anybody. This girl I've been talking about looks a lot like you.

>> No.5365117

>>5365099
>leaving your e-mail on 4chan
>good idea

By the way, I don't think she is Ingrid. Why would she hide it?

>> No.5365120

>>5365099
I'm not even Ingrid. Just really wanted to know for reasons. Can you tell me what continent even?

>>5365110
Didn't think so. Small pics, one angle though

>> No.5365294

You choose the goat tower not to be "lolsorandum" but because it represents new knowledge.

The goat tower is the only correct choice.

>> No.5365305

>>5364609
It's funny and sad.

>> No.5365363

thread was good until some kids started talking about irrelevant people

>> No.5365365

>>5365294
the goat tower represents a higher level of involvement with the world, all that is outside of goat tower represents forgetfulness of the original being-in-the-world

>> No.5366144

>>5363759
A lot of alt-lit is shit but not all of it. If it delivers good entertainment for you or makes you think deeper about something, it's good like any other genre. At least that's my motivation to read.

>> No.5366485

>>5366144
Do the flavor and specificities of alt-lit ever themselves contribute to the entertainment though, or would you be better off eating the more focused breadsticks?

>> No.5366525

>>5364083
newfag here, what is that goat tower you're talking about?

>> No.5366541

>>5366525
it's a bunker with sheep in it, as the name suggests

>> No.5366633

>>5364517
alt-lit is shhhit and so on *tips nose*

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5366637

This thread is a nice demonstration of the fact that even lesbians are desperate for male attention and approval.

>> No.5367137

>>5366637
No. It's an obliging conversation, and good practice for a lot of you besides.

>> No.5367482

>>5366637
So that was all about some tripfag? Why do you people keep enabling thes... ah fuck.

>> No.5367523

i've been inside the goat tower but they made me sign an nda