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5348230 No.5348230[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

So this lady at a lesbian conference wrote a poem entitled male novelists - which was actually pretty damned good if you ask me. As a male novelist, I think it would be awesome to write a response poem about female novelists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUrqUWNcSOg&app=desktop

My first stanza

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?" "She wrung her hands and chewed on her lower lip as she watched her lover leave through the open window. He landed without a sound on the damp earth, his feet - now the strong paws of a large grey wolf - left almost no trace as he sauntered past the trees and into the dark wood beyond her fathers empty home."

What do you say ladies and gents... can we do it?

>> No.5348233

if you dont watch the video - the concept will make no sense.

>> No.5348246

>>5348233
>implying i care about a concept past lesbian conference

>> No.5348265

>>5348230
Except you're not really doing yours about literature, just pop fiction.

Go with a pastiche of female literary authors for it to actually make sense. Otherwise you're just preaching to the choir. No one thinks Twilight or 50 Shades is the top tier of female writing.

>> No.5348331

>>5348230
How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? I really don't like this wallpaper.

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? She had long since forgotten about the light bulb, and had journeyed for many days but her journeys always brought her back to his doorstep.

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Integrated social commentary is overrated, I'll just cut and paste it here and there and call it post-modern.

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Post-modernism is legitimate.

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? The bulb was hard, metallic and mechanical. She did not understand it and tossed it aside agitatedly, as tears began to roll down her cheeks.

>> No.5348339

Mallory Ortberg rules. OP is an idiot.

>> No.5348346

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. One to ask a man and a man to screw in the lightbulb.

>> No.5348356

>How many female comedians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
omg men r so silly also my kid said the funnieST thing 2day xD

>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
She was completely oblivious to the fact that he saw her as nothing more than a fuckdoll, or maybe on some level she knew, but she truly believed that if she kept up the charade one day he would decide she was the best fuckdoll and give himself (slash his bank account and agency) to her completely.

>> No.5348361

>>5348356
>>How many female comedians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
sometimes i have SEX

>> No.5348373
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5348373

>How many male novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? War is hell.

I chuckled.

You guys are taking this too seriously. Learn to laugh at yourselves you uptight niggas.

>> No.5348390

>the cocaine isn't the point, the cocaine is a metaphor
>he explained wearily over the pile of cocaine

lol this chick actually has some pretty funny lines

>> No.5348391

Some of those were pretty good, she could be a comedian if she broadened her subject.

>> No.5348392

>how many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>two. lesbians understand ladder safety

>> No.5348393

>>5348356

>>>/r9k/

calm yourself, sperg

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5348397

>>5348230
Thanks for the video, OP. Pretty funny.

The joke reversed doesn't seem to work. You just sound bitter.

Pic to link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPss7wS4yUI

>> No.5348408

>>5348397

>The joke reversed doesn't seem to work. You just sound bitter.

Because the huge impact of female interest groups over media in the West have all but silenced males from voicing critical opinions toward females and you're treated as a heartless villain if you say anything.

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5348412

>>5348408
>have all but silenced males from voicing critical opinions toward females and you're treated as a heartless villain if you say anything.

>> No.5348413

>>5348230

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"

Vaginasvaginasvaginasvaginas...my vagina.

>> No.5348416

>>5348373
seriously though, the fuck is up with this misogynistic thread

>> No.5348421

>>5348416

Is this a troll? She did it, why can't we.

>> No.5348422

>>5348390
Yeah, I expected not to like it but tbh she has a point.
>He lit a cigarette. His glass of whiskey lit a cigarette too. “I can only truly love my best friend,” he said, “but not in a gay way. Women wouldn’t understand it. They’re too gay.” Both of the cigarettes agreed.

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5348427

>>5348397

>>The joke reversed doesn't seem to work. You just sound bitter.

this is because everyone knows that men write better than women do on the whole

no one likes to see the losing team kicked when they're already down

>> No.5348431

>>5348408
She's making a joke. This isn't a time for getchya backs.

>West have all but silenced males from voicing critical opinions toward females
"All but" Disagree. Some people make a living off of their critical opinions.

>> No.5348432

>>5348421
context matters

i swear those 2 words answer 90% of bullshit internet arguments

>> No.5348433

>>5348416
/lit/ is often infested by denizens of the lesser quality boards

>> No.5348437

>>5348432

Okay, mind explaining yourself further?

>> No.5348440

>>5348408
Men still have way more power overall than women do. The underdog mocking the empowered is funny. The empowered mocking the underdog is just grim.
>inb4 fuck off back to tumblr

>> No.5348442

>>5348427
>We do it better
>Parodies follow the YT poem
Apparently not this time

>> No.5348443

>>5348437
>>5348440
also stealing the form and turning it around is pretty much just saying "no u"
it's kinda lame

>> No.5348445

>>5348431
>>5348440
You two must be new to comedy.

>> No.5348451

>>5348442

are you trolling with this shit logic you fat dyke

she spent time specifically working on this and we're just shitposting on 4chan out of boredom

>> No.5348454

>>5348397
>"I'd love for you to meet my husband, Vincent."
>"YO VINNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"

hhhehehehe

>> No.5348457

OP here - I would like to quote myself.. "So this lady at a lesbian conference wrote a poem entitled male novelists - which was actually pretty damned good if you ask me. As a male novelist, I think it would be awesome to write a response poem about female novelists."

I think her stuff is really funny, I just thought /lit/ could do a good job of responding.

Though, in retrospect, I should have seen over-sensitive femanons and MRAs shitting all over this thread. All in all. They all make me laugh.

>> No.5348459

Another potentially fun thread ruined by fags. I guess women are still too weak to make jokes about.

>> No.5348462

>>5348457
Not sure what you mean by a response OP, elaborate.

>> No.5348463

Women want equality. Women make fun of men. Much laughter and applause. Men find it funny and turn the joke around on women. "FASCIST MISOGYNIST PATRIARCHAL ASSHOLES!"

equality sure is fun.

>> No.5348464

>>5348451
OHH, The fat dyke joke.
So so butt sore

Just everybody relax.

>> No.5348466

>>5348463

>only mentioning the cis fascists

how dare you xir

>> No.5348473

>>5348230
How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb?

two, but it makes ya wonder, how'd those fuckers get in there?

>> No.5348474

>>5348462
OP - Writing a poem that follows the same - already funny - concept, but instead finding funny points about female novelists. Lighthearted intent of course. I would think this was obvious but I guess a definition was required.

>> No.5348478

>>5348464
>implying you're not wide enough to brush both sides of a doorframe.

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5348479

>>5348473
>mfw

>> No.5348483

>>5348473
dad?

>> No.5348484

>>5348463
see
>>5348432

>> No.5348485

>>5348422
OP here - this was my favorite line.

>> No.5348490

>>5348484
what context am I missing exactly?

>> No.5348492

>>5348474
I wanted clarification is all, I guess you could flip the tag, some anons already tried. But like >>5348443 mentioned it's a stale endeavor.

>> No.5348498

>>5348440
Seriously, fuck off back to tumblr. You have no place posting here.

>> No.5348503

>>5348498
i been posting here for years bby

>> No.5348505

>>5348478
The doorframe of the tool shed you live in, perhaps.

>> No.5348507

>>5348230
The Penis Was.

>> No.5348521

That was funny, but the last bit, "nothing happens for 450 pages - receives 14 national awards," almost ruins it by attempting to frame the whole joke as something political rather than just taking the piss. There isn't really much of a struggle for women writers to get recognition in 2014.

>> No.5348524

>>5348505
I built it to deter fatties, seems it's serving its purpose.

>> No.5348526

Can someone explain to me why it's "funny and innocent" when a female does but "bitter and mysoginistic" when a male does it?

Surely making fun of men for writing and caring about how they needlessly had their penis mutilated as a baby against their will isn't misandrist thing to do, and surely if a male said and acted the same way about females caring about something they had taken away from them against their will it wouldn't be considered mysoginistic.

>> No.5348529

Were the lines aimed at what are thought to be common elements to writing by male novelists? A lot of the barbs just seemed to be relative to elements of bad writing, bare the opening blatant mockery of Hemingway, who is easily parodied but still far more intelligent artistically and otherwise than anyone whose yet joked about him. Maybe I'm too dense and missed it. I didn't find the lines funny, but what little I understood I also find idiotic in writing male or female.

>> No.5348531

>>5348526
The shortest and most accurate answer is that people do not take women seriously.

It's "cute and innocent" because women don't have any power and don't call any shots. It's like a court jester mocking the king--of no consequence.

A king mocking the jester, though, is just cruel.

>> No.5348532

>>5348529

My grammar was all over the place in that post. I apologize if its hard to read. Still, any elucidation for the benefit of my dumb ass is appreciated.

>> No.5348538

Funny, except that you could tell the audience used the jokes to rationalize their prejudices against reading male novelists rather than acknowledging it as a collection of light-hearted caricatures.

>> No.5348543

>>5348531

>The shortest and most accurate answer is that people do not take women seriously.

If this is true, then the best a woman in OP's position could potentially do is to write something worthy of observation, rather than pen a mediocre slam-poem for a convention. Writing is a laborious process, and even what's being poked fun at is superior to the nature of the joke--by taking that route in such a dull fashion she's already put herself back a step. And as someone above mentioned, women are hardly struggling to be recognized within literature.

>> No.5348544

>>5348230
How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? To the person in the light bulb, blank and stopped as a dead baby, the world itself is a bad dream.

>> No.5348545

>>5348479
You're welcome, anon.

>>5348483
Bah, if was your daddy I woulda offed myself already, Robin Williams-style, for not putting you down your momma's throat or up her poop chute.

>> No.5348547

>>5348545
*Nah

I'm not fuckin Ebenezer muthafuckin Scrooge.

>> No.5348548

>>5348526
Here -> >>5348440

>> No.5348549

>>5348230
How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? She wore her favorite shirt - sleeveless, white eyelet lace. Her silk slippers really pulled the whole outfit together. Don't worry, reader: when her wardrobe changes in the next chapter I'll describe that too, and the next chapter, and the next chapter-- how else will you envision the protagonist if you don't know what she's wearing in every scene?

>> No.5348553

>>5348230
How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? She constantly surrounded herself with people who were just slightly worse off than she was, and constantly mocked them in a passive-aggressive we're-friends-but-not-really sort of way, and she thought this was entirely normal and not wrong.

>> No.5348555

How many female poets does it take to screw in a light bulb?
My vagina
bleeds red
I wish I
were dead

>> No.5348556

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? I bleed from my gash once a month, and this is the most horrible thing that can happen to anyone ever.

>> No.5348557

>>5348440
>The empowered mocking the underdog is just grim.

Then why do tons of well known male comedians have jokes about women?

>> No.5348559

>>5348555
How many female poets does it take to screw in a light bulb?
My daddy
was mean
I think I'm
the Queen

>> No.5348560

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Don't worry, the white female collective will argue that the lightbulb is too high up for them to reach, while they stomp on minorities and accuse ladders of "blaming the victim".

>> No.5348562

>>5348548
Their entire argument lies on an assumption which is highly debatable, and even if it were true I see no problem with men poking fun at the average female novelist when both sexes have an equal output of trash.

>> No.5348563

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? It doesn't matter because I'm willing to take a 20% pay cut just to be advertised as a female novelist, but I'm totally for this whole feminism thing.

>> No.5348564

>>5348557
Because male comedians are a small step above a stoned fratboy who says bonehead things in class.

You have to take into account WHO is saying it.

>> No.5348565

>>5348483
Oh man this was so retarded funny

>> No.5348566

>>5348557
>>The empowered mocking the underdog is just grim.
That melodrama is delightful, it's like these people don't know what comedy is..

>> No.5348570

>>5348524
Fucking Rekt

>> No.5348575

>>5348538
>clapping intensifies

>> No.5348576

>>5348557
They don't. Maybe in America they do, but American comedians suck so who cares.

>> No.5348582

>>5348576
Name ten good non-American comedians.

>> No.5348588

>>5348582
Easy. But anyone listed will just get a knee-jerk response from you, dismissing them with a shitty greentext.

>> No.5348595

>>5348588
No, I just don't want you to use Stewart Lee as a crutch like most people who take your position do.

>> No.5348606

It would be funny if I read a novel were any of these things occurred. On a completely unrelated note, why is this thread filled with misoginists, feminists, and no one in between?

>> No.5348608

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A strong, independent woman with no agency, tossed from one plot contrivance to the next until she gets a boyfriend.

>> No.5348611

>>5348606
>no one in between

I've made a couple posts in this thread and I'm not a misogynist or a feminist.

>> No.5348624

>>5348582
>Name ten good non-American comedians.
André Wickström
Dylan Moran
Heinz Erhardt
Hannes Ringlstetter
Jesper Rönndahl
Christoph Maria Herbst
Eddi Arent
Luke Mockridge
Theo Maassen
Hans Teeuwen

>> No.5348628

>>5348562
1. You're taking this too hard
2. Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern, even Andrew Dice Clay make more money/are more famous than the woman in the OP

>> No.5348637

OP here: I am pleased :)

>> No.5348641

OP here: an update - i put my stanza in a comment form on the video - and they deleted it. Yay for equality.

>> No.5348647

>>5348641
Post it here.

>> No.5348651

>>5348647
I did, its in the original post.

>> No.5348655

>>5348651
oh.
How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Five guys and fries.

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>>5348655
YOU FUCK! now I want five guys. mmm cajun fries.

>> No.5348664

>>5348641

figures

those lesbians are just as conceited and echo chamber as we are

people are very rarely not shitty on the internet

>> No.5348667 [DELETED] 

>>5348659

>that burger

Foreignfag here.

I need that artery-clogging blessing in my life.

>> No.5348671

>>5348659
Their fries are an abomination. A travesty. Other potatoes make fun of those destined for five guys' fryers. They're so bad, vinegar makes them better.

>> No.5348674

>>5348667
you seriously dont know what youre missing. it is a wonder of modern technology - then they slap bacon on it!

>> No.5348675

>>5348664
>those lesbians are just as conceited and echo chamber as we are
yo cago en la leche de tu puta madre, perra.

>> No.5348676

>>5348671
You sir or madam are incorrect.

>> No.5348686

>>5348230
It's funny. The flipside wouldn't be funny because the stereotypical things female writers do are popularly seen as frivolous, not deep and praiseworthy. It's funny to call out stuff that is culturally respected when it's stupid, which she does.

>> No.5348687

I have the greatest wit on this entire board. Engage me in repartee and I will drive you into the fucking ground. Don't bring those brainless, snarky quips you usually do, I want real genius satire.

>> No.5348690

>>5348687
lol

>> No.5348694

>>5348687
no u

>> No.5348719

>>5348676
OK if you like your potatoes soggy and tasteless I guess you're right. Or maybe just the employees at the location on Archer Road in Gainesville, FL suck. Don't live there no mo', but ain't been to a five guys since I did.

P.S. their burgers were the knees of the goddamn bees though. Used to grab a burger from them and head across to the street to Checkers to get fries that were actually good . . . ah good ol' college days

>> No.5348781

>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? This scene is a deep metaphorical representation of the trauma I experienced after having an abortion but I have no talent for subtext so it actually just comes off hamfisted and obviously about abortion

>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? I hate my father. I also would like to have sex with my father.

>> No.5348787

>>5348781
>This scene is a deep metaphorical representation of the trauma I experienced after having an abortion but I have no talent for subtext so it actually just comes off hamfisted and obviously about abortion
unlike this joke which is nuanced and subtle

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5348792

>>5348787
None of the OP video's jokes are subtle or nuanced. The tenor of the humor is "it's funny because it's true." Stay mad nigga

>> No.5348819

>>5348373
I thought her poem was good, everyone in this thread thinks it was some feminist attack but really its just some harmless satire.

>> No.5348840

>>5348440
I agree, this piece wouldn't work in the reverse and instead of being offended that you can't fire back just be somewhat relieved you aren't in an underprivileged group. This shit is like rich people being mad they have to pay more taxes.

>> No.5348845

>>5348781
Underrated comment.

>> No.5348860

ayy lmao

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>>5348230
>those creamy thighs showing through the skirt

>> No.5348871

>>5348840
or like white guys complaining that they aren't allowed to say "nigger" when black people are
>muh oppression

>> No.5348876

>>5348871
I'm allowed to say nigger.. Who says it isn't allowed? I say it all the time.

>> No.5348882

>>5348867
YEAH.
I didn't want to make a scene about it, but she got nice legs.

>> No.5348885

>>5348882
she is a fat dyke and about 10 pounds away from landwhale-tier

>> No.5348886

>>5348882
she's also got hips, bet she got all kinds of ass going on back there.

>> No.5348887

>>5348885
>having standards
>being this normal

>> No.5348888

>>5348230
I mean, it's funny and that, but the whole ''male'' could've just been dropped for a lot of them. Save the alcoholism and war, a lot of female written novels revolve around ''feelings you wouldn't understand'' and nothing really happening for 300 pages.

But apart from the repetition that got a bit dull after three minutes, it was pretty funny,

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5348891

>>5348888
Mirin' quads?

>> No.5348895

>>5348891
How does one pronounce mirin anyway? I always tend to pronounce it in my head like Helen Mirren.

>> No.5348896

I am seriously so fucking tired of tumblr.

it's here to stay though.
deep down you all know its true

>> No.5348897

>>5348895
>admiring
my-rin is how I say it. I hate people who use it, regardless.

>> No.5348901

>>5348876
I think he means allowed in the social sense. Like you certainly don't need anyones permission but others might not let you act or lend legitimacy for your right to act free of consequence when you say nigger.

>> No.5348902

>>5348897
I know it's derived from that but it doesn't look that way to me when I read it.

>> No.5348920

>>5348901
I've said it around black people aswell.
I wouldn't say it around actual niggers, but then I wouldn't say a lot of things around actual niggers, so it kind of loses meaning.
Any person with half a brain knows the whole apologetic ''you can't say nigger'' thing is retarded. Everything on tv is riddled with it, every comedy show, every song. If it's that bad, they should stop selling out their hurtfull words and lament about it in peace and quiet.

>> No.5348923

>>5348902

You're objectively wrong. It would need two r's to be pronounced "mirren". "Mirin" is clearly pronounced like "myrin", for the same reason that "admiring" is pronounced the way that it is.

>> No.5348925

>>5348885
Far chubbier than I, but I like a variety of models.

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5348957

Not feminist nor MRA but I am seriously tired of these sex wars infecting everything. Both parties say they want to work in unison but deliberately insult each other without trying to understand each other. (not talking about OP´s video)

Gonna read Jacques the Fatalist where woman is having good drunken time with two men and tells them a story about another woman taking revenge on former lover.

>> No.5349116

>>5348230
Pretty funny. A little overlong, but the funny to dud ratio was decent.

For everyone making a female version: the statement after "how many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb" should not include any reference to a lightbulb, or else you've misunderstood the joke.

>> No.5349122

>>5348882
>nice legs
>nice legs
>nice legs
Nope.

>> No.5349152

Is she mostly talking about Hemmingway or something? I guess I don't read many "male novelists" even if I read a lot of novels by males because while I get the idea behind most of those jokes and some of them are funny for that, I'm not at all familiar with anyone who actually writes like that.

The only line I take issue with is
>War is hell
because isn't it? For everyone, not just men. That seems pretty off. Go live in an active war zone for a while, then you can make flippant jokes about it.

>> No.5349154

Tumblr depresses me so much.

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>>5349154

iktf bro

>> No.5349175

>>5348416
Why don't you kill yourself?

>> No.5349191

>>5349154
why are you talking about tumblr?

>> No.5349195

>>5348230
>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? hashtag patriarchy.

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>>5349195

>> No.5349234

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>> No.5349237

Is there anything worse than live poetry?

Is there anything more decadent?

>> No.5349259

>>5348432
Q: How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: She was an enigma, stout but pretty. Much sought after by men but never entangled, her mother had taught her the secret that gave her her power: context matters.

>> No.5349272

Her delivery of the jokes isn't too great, but they're vaguely amusing. Why is a response needed? She's not making a legitimate attack on male novelists, just on hacks like Dan Brown and Jim Butchers, pulp writers of the most reprehensible kind. To imply she's attacking you is to place yourself in the same category as some of the worst writers to ever live.

>> No.5349273

>>5348356
help, /r9k/ is leaking.

>> No.5349318

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I have a varied and interesting set of neuroses, but they all stem from the fact that women who are more attractive than me exist.

How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Doesn't matter, they can't afford nasty, patriarchal commodities like electricity after Daddy finds out that being a "new media journalist" isn't a real job.

>> No.5349320

>>5349259
Goddammit, Rand

>> No.5349344

>>5349259
Is this from We The Living?
I'm reading it at the moment and Rand is so full of narcissistic shit I can't believe it.

>> No.5349471

>>5349344
>>5349320
I have no idea what Rand is like.

I was taking an obtuse fat-girl martyr approach to Karen Blixen (who is actually really great), plus that other comment.

>> No.5349474

>>5349234
>"How many male novelists does it take to scre in a lightbulb? RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE

>>5349195
Okay, that's all that needed to be said. Funny.

>> No.5349499

>makes jokes about war and masculinity
>makes jokes about circumcision

Fuck you bitch, do you not realise the amount of men that died in war and the significance of their writings on the experience?

Fuck you bitch, I bet you would mind if your clit was cut off.

>> No.5349502

>>5348230
I don't get any of the "jokes".

Is she just quoting stereotypical male novelist snippets?

How is that ever a response to the question "how many novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb"?
Beyond the lolsorandumb factor?

>> No.5349503

>nothing happens for 450 pages
>implying literature requires constant action

>> No.5349518

>>5349499
Exactly. I bet she's taking the piss out of Hemingway.

>you only write about war
>"well it was traumatising and i did go through three of them and lost many of my friends"
>haha, you little girl
>"im not the little girl, you're the little girl"
>OH MY GOD STOP TRIGGERING ME, STOP THINKING ALL WOMEN ARE GIRLS YOU SEXIST ASSHOLE

>> No.5349534

Somebody post a link to "on the planet of the baritone women"

>> No.5349543
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>mfw

>> No.5349549
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>mfw

>> No.5349568

>How many male novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>"I am a male novelist and I write in a manner which indicates this."

*continued laughter*

>> No.5349575

I thought /lit/ would be beyond petty stuff like this

>> No.5349576

>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>It doesn't matter, they're all shit!

*Laughter and Applause*

>> No.5349577
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You can tell these women have 0 sympathy for men who died in war.

>> No.5349579
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>>5349499
Again, you take this too hard.

Female circumcision is a thing you know. But I bet you wouldn't want to hear about that in a novel. By man or woman.

Oh and the cures to war. Why is no one interested in the cures? "W-what would write about?"

>> No.5349580

>>5349575
>not liking someone who takes the piss out of dead men who write about their troubles in war means you're petty

top kek

>> No.5349581

>tfw as a straight white male I am the most persecuted person in the word

>> No.5349587

>>5349580
>Hating and vomiting over the guts of someone who takes the wind out of dead white men who write only about their troubles in war substance abuse and women problems means you're petty.

Yes it does. Calm your tits

>> No.5349590

>>5349575
>patting yourself on the back for not being "petty"

you're no better, faggot

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>>5348230
>live poetry

I attended live poetry once. Just as a guest. Cringed the entire time.

>> No.5349599

>>5349587
It's just that it makes no sense.
How does satirizing male novelist clichés in any way answer the question "How many male novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"?

>> No.5349600

>>5349587
>implying only writing about war and women problems is a bad thing
>implying war isnt a great topic and very emotional
>implying everyone can't relate to women problems


Fuck you, Butterfly, entitled cunt.

She just took the piss out of the guy for writing about his tragic experiences. She formed no critique. The only things that were remotely funny were her comments on the style of writings.

>> No.5349603

>>5349579
>Again, you take this too hard.

Gotta love how your ideology manifests in such a way that you get to dictate how other people should feel.

>I bet you wouldn't want to hear about that in a novel

Not only do you get to dictate how other people should feel, you assume what they want. Quite the listener. You've certainly got your ears open to the human beings around you.

>> No.5349605

>>5349587
just because the bitch is a women and cant understand war doesnt mean she has to take the piss out of millions who died

>> No.5349615
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5349615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4YXsJaZu0&feature=player_detailpage#t=108

>> No.5349620

Men can't take a joke

>> No.5349623

How many black novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Slavery is hell.

Not so funny now eh:^)?

>> No.5349626

>>5349620
>implying a woman would be able to take the joke if it was about rape

top kek

>> No.5349628

>>5349620
Can you take a rape joke?

>> No.5349633

>>5349600
Name your favourite novel about women's problems during wartime.

>Entitled
I'd like world piece for all

>>5349603
>Gotta love how your ideology manifests in such a way that you get to dictate how other people should feel.
>Men: The weaker sex
Sorry. I forget.

>You've certainly got your ears open to the human beings around you.
And male novelists, traditionally, saw only males as other human beings (Or couldn't manage seeing women as anything but Other. Just products of their time really. What's your excuse?)

>>5349605
>Countless Hitler/gassed Jew jokes laters: Women still can't take the piss out of old fashioned writers, even a little

You're being too grouchy about this.

>> No.5349635

>>5349620
men take jokes far more than women can, i suggest you get out more, snowflake

>> No.5349639

>>5349626
>Who is Andrew Dice Clay

>> No.5349642

>>5349633
>world piece

You are almost retarded.

>> No.5349645

>>5349639
You'll meet more women in the world that will get offended if you burst their bubble than you will ever meet men doing so.

You know it to be true bf

>> No.5349648

>>5349620
This thread certainly comes off like butthurt, but you have to consider the context: years of PC nonsense about "don't make fun of this group!" and "RAPE JOKES ARE NEVER FUNNY. LIKE EVER!" yet these entitled douche-women come in with their sexism and disregard for forced circumcision and, even though it doesn't bother us one bit the way they act like rape jokes bother them, it's a little fucking annoying that they think they're above the rules they set for others.

In other words, we'd have an easier time taking this like a Friar's club roast if we hadn't been banned from the Friar's club.

>> No.5349649

>>5349633
>Or couldn't manage seeing women as anything but Other
What´s wrong with that?

>> No.5349653

>>5349633
>couldn't manage seeing women as anything but Other

You realize that most people see everything outside of their conception of a self as "Other", right? Otherness doesn't begin and end with gender lines, it has more to do with subjectivity.

>> No.5349654

>>5349626
>>5349628
Of course. and plenty of female comic make jokes about rape too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ArdxWYBGQ#t=85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv5pjSRSLGQ#t=54

>> No.5349659

>implying i could make a rape joke in front of wannabe tumblr fags
>implying i would be allowed to speak against them making fun of prominent writers expressing their feelings of war

Top fucking kek. We have had TWO WORLD WARS IN THE PAST CENTURY. OF COURSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF MALE WRITERS WRITING ABOUT WAR WHEN DOZENS OF MILLIONS OF THEM DIED. FUCKING IDIOTIC.

>> No.5349662

>>5349654
Comments for the first video are deactivated. I wonder why.

>> No.5349663

I wonder what would happen if a male got up on stage and made fun of a female writer talking about her experiences of rape:^)?

>> No.5349664

>>5349599
It's more a poem than a standup routine. The lightbulb is a riff on the old joke set up. "How man Polocks does it take to..." etc. Like the "Your momma" jokes.

>>5349620
These guys >>5349626 >>5349628 >>5349635 are right. These aren't men, they're still boys.

>>5349642
I am totally not awake yet! World peace, durr

>>5349645
There are reasons for this generality.

>>5349649
Women are NOT a separate species, a piece of property, an animal or object. If this wasn't meant to be a joke/troll, you seriously need to rethink your worldview.

>> No.5349666

>>5349664
>It's more a poem than a standup routine. The lightbulb is a riff on the old joke set up. "How man Polocks does it take to..." etc. Like the "Your momma" jokes.
I still don't get it.

>> No.5349668

>>5349663
>>5349623
lel

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>>5349664
>Women are NOT a separate species
>

>> No.5349672

>>5349664
>agrees with the women on stage about how males are always writing about masculinity
>Calls people in the thread out for being boys and not men yet

>implying that if a female writer wrote about how she saw men as objects she wouldnt be hailed as a hero

top kek butterface

>> No.5349675

>>5349664
Do you even understand the concept of the Other?

>> No.5349676

>>5349663
>Andrew Dice Clay.jpg
>Andrew Dice Clay getting paid for unfunny jokes.jpg

>> No.5349680

>>5349237
I hope you're only talking about contemporary live poetry, since so many epics emerged from oral tradition.

>> No.5349682

>>5349676
The Diceman is hilarious, you pleb.

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>>5349682
>>5349676
samefag

>> No.5349687

>>5349684
We have two Butterfarts now.

>> No.5349688

just like you know that a rich person is an idiot if he is right winged, and poor person is an idiot if left winged, you can be reasonably certain that a woman is an imbecile if she's a feminist, and a man is an imbecile if he's a chauvinist

>> No.5349689

>>5349688
hah deep

>> No.5349693

>>5349672
>Broken implicator.

>>5349675
So it's another one of the philosophical terms that need whole essays to distinguish. Like how metaphysics means everything, and determinism means indeterminist things.
Do you understand what women are in the eyes of far too many men?

>> No.5349695

>>5349693
>Do you understand what women are in the eyes of far too many men?
Yeah, because all women are enlightened beings floating above the clouds.

Women fart too.

>> No.5349696

Pop lit is shit?
Thanks for the tip
I needed an enlightened
One to give me the hint

Whether woman or man
Clancy to James
Guns or Dildos
The lowest common
denominator decides
quality

fuck

>> No.5349697

>>5349693
I don't think I will take the opinion of a LESBIAN on male and female issues as there is clearly a bias.

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5349698

Don't worry guys, we never have to put up with it again.

The future is silicone love dolls and androids are just around the corner.

Western women have become so intolerable, realistic silicone is more preferable than to put up with them.

Feminists hate and fear this trend immensely.

>> No.5349700

>>5349693
>Do you understand what women are in the eyes of far too many men?
Do you undrerstand what men are in eyes of far too many women?

>> No.5349708

>>5349664
>It's more a poem than a standup routine. The lightbulb is a riff on the old joke set up. "How man Polocks does it take to..." etc. Like the "Your momma" jokes.

So it's literally a heads up to the audience that what she is saying is supposed to be funny?

Because the audience wouldn't be smart enough to spot the satire without the lightbulb thing?

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>>5349698

>> No.5349713

>>5349693
>Do you understand what women are in the eyes of far too many men

How could you possibly know what women are in a man's eyes? Why do you think you're omniscient?

>> No.5349716

>>5349576
The only one I laughed at.

>> No.5349723

>>5349684
>Blindness

>>5349695
Not even implied

>>5349697
You don't even know what a lesbian is.

>>5349700
Yes.

>>5349708
Go on, blame the old Vaudeville Jew comedians for destroying your white male culture
Far too angry at this little thing.

I'm going out to read now. All Butterflies after this, which I'm sure will come, are impostors.

>> No.5349725

>>5349723
All those few worded replies because you couldn't actually refute any points.

>> No.5349726 [DELETED] 

>>5349723
>Go on, blame the old Vaudeville Jew comedians for destroying your white male culture
>Far too angry at this little thing.

I'm not angry, I'm genuinely trying to understand what the question "how many male novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb" with the following snippets of satire of male novelist writing.

>> No.5349730

>>5349725
Go on, beat your chest. You've won for my retreating your juvenilism. Fling your poo.

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>>5349712
NIPPON BANZAI

>> No.5349736

>>5349635
>>5349635
Unless they're about masculinity, apparently

>> No.5349737

>>5349723
>Go on, blame the old Vaudeville Jew comedians for destroying your white male culture
>Far too angry at this little thing.

I'm not angry, I'm genuinely trying to understand what the question "how many male novelists does it take to screw in a lightbulb" has to do with the following snippets of satire of male novelist writing.

>> No.5349739

>>5349730
>beat your chest
>fling your poo

Wow, you're no different to the girl in the clip. You just throw gender hate because you can't refute any points and it's hilarious because you were telling someone earlier not to objectify women.

Top fucking kek, filtered forever.

>> No.5349745

>>5349595
Friends always want to take me to poetry slams, open mics and stuff like that. Never went, I tried watching some on youtube and most of it is painfully bland. Though most people find everything profound as long as its delivered in singsongy pathos.


Video in op is funny though, don't know how people on this board are genuinely offended by it.

>> No.5349748

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
>She just couldn't figure out who to let fuck her

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
>She just couldn't figure out who to marry. Also, there are minor implications that keep affecting her decision of marriage.

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
I suffer from an inferior-complex all the time and I constantly feel insecure

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
Sometimes lying is the best option

"How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
They burned witches through out history and in many different countries. It was the greatest genocide of people in history, over than 9000 million dead. We must never forget about it, and write about it ceaselessly, and practice Wicca and pretend it's not incredibly stupid. Also, we must buy crystals. MUST.

>> No.5349751

>>5349745
>offended
To me it seems people are just angry or tired of female hypocrisy

>rape is not funny
>lel millions ded men in war

>> No.5349755

>>5348548
yeah, but that's bullshit

>> No.5349756

I'm not even sure which authors nor which books she's even "satirizing".

It's just a bunch of pot shots at strawmen that don't even exist.

>> No.5349770

>>5349751
The joke was not at the expense of men who died in war but of writers who use cliched phrases and themes. How fucking bitter are you?

>> No.5349772

>>5348440
That implies that the underdog is always right and that the empowered is wrong but that's not fucking true you pleb.

>> No.5349774

>>5349698
Sex robots are a win for everybody. Men get their robot fuck dolls, women get their robots with dildos attached. I don't see how anybody could lose here.

>> No.5349776

This is what happens when women enter a predominantly male space.

Thank god we gave women the vote and are now allowing them to fight as front line soldiers, amirite?

>> No.5349777

>>5349770
It's not cliched if it was written during the fucking 20th century and those writers wrote about war because they themselves went to war and wrote about the men they knew who died.

>> No.5349778

>>5349774
You can't get alimony from a male sex robot. :^)

>> No.5349779

>>5349723
You make me ashamed I ever considered feminism a worthwhile ideology

>> No.5349785

>>5349698
Just date guys. It's glorious.

No bullshit and sex whenever you want.

>> No.5349786

>>5349778
>implying they wouldnt just make him sell his parts for cheaper ones and then take the money

>> No.5349789

>4000 words...circumcision
I get the feeling me making a similar joke about a woman's feelings on FGM wouldn't go down so well.

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>>5349779
>I don't believe in nothing no more! I'm going to become an office assistant

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>>5348694

Game over

>> No.5349792

>>5349785
>no bullshit from guys
>implying
take a walk to /lgbt/ sometimes

>> No.5349796

>>5349785
>Just date guys. It's glorious.
I don't like cock and balls dangling from an ass.
I don't like having my dick smell like shit.
I don't like STDs and AIDs.

>> No.5349799

The limit of the discourse of women is "me, me, me, me, me." Notice that the one namefag in this thread is a woman. Women crave male attention, so just ignore their childish prattle and they'll go away, back to bickering amongst themselves.

>> No.5349806

>>5349785
But I cant fuck something that I respect

>> No.5349807

>"nothing happens" as actual criticism
What a huge pleb, and she was doing so well.

>> No.5349810

>>5349792
>implying the do-nothing-but-whine queens who'd bother wasting any time at /lgbt/ are date worthy

Nice try.

>> No.5349817

>>5349785
Wanting to date and fuck something and wanting to have an intellectual conversation with something are two separate things. Women are ideal for the former and men the latter.

>> No.5349824

>>5349633
Gone With a Wind
happy now?

>> No.5349841

Her voice is so fucking annoying.

>> No.5349847

>4000 words going nowhere
>450 words of nothing happens

What a pleb, I bet she doesn't even know why she dislikes these passages and just lacks basic thought.

>> No.5349850

>>5349847
pages*

>> No.5349855

>super hot
>super

>that hair fling and smile she does at the end without saying thank you because she's full of herself

I can't wait to see you write a book, bitch.

>> No.5349903

>>5348781
>>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? I hate my father. I also would like to have sex with my father.
/thread

>> No.5349912

/lit/ is apparantly incapable of handling the banter.

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>>5348781
>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb? I hate my father. I also would like to have sex with my father.

>> No.5349966

>>5348230
>>5348230
>How many female novelists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Fuck if I know; I only read the classics and almost all of them were written by men.