/lit/ - Literature

>>5317206
It's for children.
/lit/ just takes it out of the YA category because there are so many pleb tier writers here who can only write about fantasy (also YA) and sci-fi (the same a lereddit). It's shit.

>>5317226
>It's for children.

Why?

>>5317226
>who is Neal Stephenson
That's pretty funny anon

>>5317274
it's call-and-response, like a meme

"what's wrong with sci-fi?" is like "you're a big guy"
"it's for children" is like "for you"

It denies reality.

>>5317293

SF authors tend to care more about the idea than the story. This is particularly noticeable in Hard SF

>>5317293
Get a load of this guy

It has no deeper meaning. It is shallow and its only purpose is cheap escapism. Its target audience are children and manchildren.

>>5317293
>It denies reality.
So does 'real life'. Deal with it.

It lost its political backing after Reagan and never really developed the political range it had then again.

I associate it with neckbeards[1] who never grew out of their middle school wannabe nerd phase. I don't like neckbeards.

Footnotes:
[1] The term "neckbeard" does not necessitate the signified person to have facial hair. In this context it is used as a generalized metonymy denoting a mixture of infantilism and lack of social awareness.

>>5317206
>What's wrong with scifi?
Sturgeon's law muthafuckas.

>>5317206

Most of it is shit and the authors rarely utilize the potential of the genre.

There are some exceptions though that touch on interesting subjects and themes.

>>5317961
see >>5317942

>>5317206
Too many mediocre books with political agenda were acclaimed as masterpieces.

>>5317226
My God, you're an arrogant, mediocre twat.

Sci-fi is the genre with the most potential of them all. With science fiction, you can write epic poems, romance, drama, sociology, psuchology, everything you goddamn want. Creating alternative worlds with your own rules allow you to be a fucking deity and express any idea you damn please.

And you completely ignore all this potential and call it "for children" to sound cool on an anonymous imageboard, you, hopeless, worthless imbecile.

>>5317850
>400 BC
>not targeting your stories at the people who most need to be educated

Hark, Homer, and render into song the failing of yon faggot, who cared not for the children of his age and cried out against their incompetence in his infirmity

>>5318053

>>5318053

>>5317206
Self-publishing.
People like Frank Herbert proved that the most imaginative and fantastic sci-fi can be literature, this point was swiftly forgotten the millionth time some twat on amazon wrote a book about his red and black android mc going around in power armor fighting robo-alien-dragons. To many people are taking all the incredible implications of such advanced technology and just treating it as magic. Sci-fi and fantasy are barely distinguishable.
>>5317942 is in full effect.

name one non-SF book that deals with the important topics and themes covered in these acclaimed SF novels.

Protop: you will have great difficulty, while you could name any number of SF books also dealing with these or similar themes and concepts.

What's wrong with x?

Sturgeons law applies to any genre or aspect of anything. 90% is crap.

>>5317206
The identity formed around sci-fi in the hey-dey of the pulp magazines, which is that, largely, of the disposable text, the pot-boiler, joined to commercial populism, which leads to the bad kind of simplicitly, though sometimes the very good. The genre itself has no problems as a genre, and is largely recovering from the hey-dey of the pulps. We're also filtering out all the gold from the sand just about now because we've had enough time to read and promote it.