/lit/ - Literature

My homie here clearly just fucking be hating, shit.

>>5265153
>all black guys are from the 'hood'

>>5265153
Just now I realized that I never read a book with a black character (not counting really minor roles) besides Moby Dick.

>>5265158
Not even To Kill a Mockingbird? Huckleberry Finn?

>>5265158
Lucky you

>>5265158
You should read Faulkner

>>5265158
don't have you read the bible?

>>5265166
I didn't grow up in the USA, so I didn't read those books.

>>5265169
I plan to. Where should I start, by the way?

>>5265173
Oh, right. Moby Dick and parts of the bible.

>>5265186
I don't know, I've read Absalom! Absalom!, the Sound and the Fury, and As I lay dying.

I heard Light in August is pretty entry level. Of the three I read, I would say begin with As I Lay Dying and then Sound and the Fury, and then Absalom! Absalom!.

Absalom! Absalom! is a prequel to Sound and Fury so make sure Sound and Fury is read first.

>>5265233
Thanks!

>>5265186
Yo, Twain is universally celebrated.

>>5265153
ay, nigga, wat u sayin' bout me nigga
ayyy ayyy hell nah fuck no nigga dis nigga don said he thinks imma bitch nigga
fuck nigga you about to get beat da fuck down
nigga back up nigga back up nigga

I fail to see how that is incorrect

>>5265299
So is Goethe. Have you read Goethe?

I felt a similar disdain when reading Catcher in the Rye. It felt like the author overheard some teenagers at a bus stop and deemed himself to be down with the hip crowd.

>>5265158
Read Pimp. Book about black people by a black man who was an actual pimp.

>>5265347
Is it actually good though? I don't read books for racial diversity or some shit like that, I read books for being good.

>>5265325

I have. Werther was unbearable dry shit, Faust was good. Some of his shorter works are merely okay.

If Goethe is the only big-ticket name you can trot out for a dick-measuring contest, you're gonna lose around these parts.

>>5265153
>black person writes dialog for a black character
>still just as annoying

know what I'm sayin?

>>5265325
Goethe (at least German classic era Goethe) was a twat and is one of the most overrated poets/authors

I liked how DFW made fun out of that phenomenon in Infinite Jest.

>>5265390
It was not supposed to be a dick-measuring contest, it's just that most american readers probably haven't read him, just like I haven't read Twain.
Not everyone has read everything, that's all I tried to get across there.

>>5265403
That's nice and all, but what does this have to do with anything?

I can generally agree with you, Goethe's big achievements are less in his literature, and rather what he did for literature. You should read Faust nevertheless.

>>5265405
Are you saying that his failure to write realistic black characters was ironic?

>>5265158
>he didnt read Bud Not Buddy in the first grade

>>5265153
Ah man, I read this a few weeks ago was cringey.
It was a book by a female(white) author and the Main female lead had a black male friend... that was sad. To give her points they all were from the South but fuck man...

>>5265478

>>5265405
5/10

>>5265478
Oh lawdy those few pages near the start

the modern hoodrat negro dialogue is very simple to write. of course, done properly it would appear comical and stereotypical to the uninitiated, but that's the nature of their dialect.

>>5265369
It is good.

>>5265505

I don't understand what your point is

>>5265153
I've found that there's 2 approaches to writing a black character that doesn't come off as racist. There's "The Huey" and "The Lamar"

Huey is one of the main characters on The Boondocks. He's smart, insightful, and yet still maintains his black dignity instead of just acting like a white man in a black guy's skin (like Mr. Dubois, or an Uncle Tom, if you prefer)

Lamar is a support character in GTA 5. Rude, crude, but still likable because, just like Huey, he isn't afraid to be anybody but himself.

>>5265617
If you want an example of a Huey read Jean Toomer's Cane. However, that was written by a black man.
If you're white, maybe you should just give up.

>>5265414
sorry, it has nothing to do with anything, I just hate that wanker so much, Faust is shit, too, BTW

>>5266331
>Faust is shit
Over the line.

>>5265310
wassup den nigga wassup den nigga
ay Devondre record dis shi
comeon bitch ass nigga u a bitch, nigga
AYY WORLSTARR WORLSTAAR OHH
fuck his ass up nigga ey drop dat bitch nigga
Jamar beatin da nigga ass ay WORLDSTAAAARRR
nigga smack da shit out dat nigga
sheit bruh we gota go for da cops show up bruhbruh

>>5265564
My point is, that OP is correct. White Authors can't write black characters. They use this hood speak or slang way of talking. It's cringey as FUG.

bix nood mah nigga we finna go hard tonite gon' hit up dat white pussy for real though ya feel me?

>>5265403
gtfo fag

>>5265158
Anything by Achebe or Soyinka has you covered

a confedarcyy of dunces is the only one to pull it off

>>5266497
Black authors can't write white characters either. And that's because they can't write.

I've never met a black person but I did watch The Wire so I think I'm okay.

>>5265498
>bud not buddy
Man that was a good book

>>5265335

Where you a teenager in the 50's? How do you know how they talked back then?

>>5265153
If you wanna write like a black person just bang your keyboard and insert a bunch of double-negatives everywhere.

>>5266374
>cops show up
>three niggas shoot at them
>cops shoot back

DAS RACCIS NIGGA
DAS RACCIS OH SHIT NIGGA
TRAYVON TRAYVON
OH SHIT NIGGA
JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON
GET DEM SKITTLES NIGGA OH SHIT NIGGA
RACCCIISS
RACCISSSSSS

>>5265153
If it wasn't for one friend, I haven't talked to a black person in 10 years. Even including him I've talked to one black person in the last 5 years.

i live in canada btw. feels weird.

all you need to know about writing 'black;'

>>5265158
If plays count, then I highly recommend Othello.

>>5265158
Invisible Man, surely the best choice
A classic and it includes several dialects.

>>5268123
What

>>5268123
ok it's a 100 dollar ok i got it

ok time to calm down now you can't laugh that hard it's not good for you

hoooooooweeeee

>>5268214
I wanted to recommend that one too, but didn't because I haven't read it yet.

>>5268227
she probably hasn't either