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5261085 No.5261085 [Reply] [Original]

how does /lit/ feel about Lyotard?

is it worth reading "The Postmodern Condition"? despite all this:
> Lyotard later admitted that he had a 'less than limited' knowledge of the science he was to write about, and to compensate for this knowledge, he 'made stories up' and referred to a number of books that he hadn't actually read. In retrospect, he called it 'a parody' and 'simply the worst of all my books'.

>> No.5261102

Sounds like a real Ryotard

>> No.5261124

Jameson's critique is the only one that matters. Read that one instead.

>> No.5261796

>>5261085
« la francé academie »

>> No.5261803

>>5261102
banter

>> No.5261805

>>5261085
>Lyotard later admitted
Care to share the source?

>> No.5261825

>>5261124
Agree. Jameson's book and earlier essays on Postmodernism are better than this, supplemented with Perry Anderson's short book The Origins of Postmodernity. Both can be downloaded relatively easily.

>> No.5261860

>>5261805
not op but i've always wondered about the source for that as well. did some digging and found it (it's listed on wiki but it's a book)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/75466614/Perry-Anderson-The-Origins-of-Post-Modernity

page 24 or 21, there's two different page counts going on. this cites another source but seems reputable enough to count. i might dig a bit more for the other one in a bit

>> No.5261878

>>5261825
Or you could flush this crap along with Althusser and get back to a real scholarly project like working class social history.

>> No.5261898

>>5261878
Or building an autonomous Workers' nuclear program! Forward to the Workers' Bomb!

>> No.5261937

>>5261860
Thanks, that's appreciated.

>> No.5261946

>>5261898
Given the capacity of post-structuralists to read science, would you trust them with a pile?

>> No.5261979

>>5261946
Are you claiming that a nuclear reaction as a process stands entirely outside of subjectivity?

>> No.5262017

>>5261979
I'm claiming that the subjective discourses of a Lyotard produced Fukishima will involve radical reconfigurations of bodies and identities in manners which many of those bodies and identities would interpret as the production of power relations, and, more, that the dominant episteme would prefer different configurations of bodies and identities not involving high doses of radiation.

At a more concrete level, if someone gave Judith Butler a reactor, I would break hir face with an iron bar.

>> No.5262018

>>5261979

if gravity is subjective why don't you leap out of a tall building is what I always say

ceterum senseo: fuck postmodernism

>> No.5262062
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5262062

>>5262017
Look what happened to the last person who tried that.

>> No.5262076

>>5262062

Butler's body proportions look hilarious in this pic.

>> No.5262221

>>5262076
Butler really is a manlet
>>5262062
She tried to give Butler a reactor, we put her in a wheel chair.