/lit/ - Literature

>>5213806
A man probably hasn't read it.

>>5213806
>Fiction or philosophy
>In charge or being the best book ever written
You must me a liberal science major then.

>>5213810

>>5213806
try notes from underground now. it's arguably better.

>>5213806
>Dostoevsky
Am I on reddit?

>>5213910
>Notes from Underground
>better than Karamazov in any way

lol

I'd say "how pleb can you be", but you're reading Dosty, so you're not a pleb.

>>5213955
Okay, so tell me how Karamazov is better.

>>5213928
m8 i swear down dont slag off me m8 fyodor m8

>>5213955
>you're reading Dosty, so you're not a pleb.
kek'd. damn summer is burning me up

>>5213928
fuck off

>>5213978
y is dosto pleb?

>>5213985
Yes, every bully on my school has read Dostoyevski.

>>5213985
sometimes he is very pretentious like in "The Raw Youth"

>>5213806

Did you read that translation (shown in the image) or another one?

>>5214088
The main character was pretentious, of course he was.

>>5214143

Yes, but it's not what I meant.
For example all the death of the old man was pretentious

>>5213955
>you're reading Dosty, so you're not a pleb.
haha i guess all college freshmen are patrician then

>>5214161
Makar or whoever? I guess so.

>>5214163
As snide as your comment is, you have a point. Dostoevsky is a standard of most, if not all, literary diets.
You're not superior for reading something that other literates expect you to have read.

>>5213955
>you're reading Dosty, so you're not a pleb.
College freshman detected.

>>5213812
science books get dated, classics dont.

>>5214270
>You're not superior for reading something that other literates expect you to have read.
>Thinking you're ever superior because you read some fiction another person hasn't
Do you all have serious brain damage or something?

>>5213955
Why are you abbreviating a beautiful name such as Dostoevsky?

>>5213806
because Ulysses is

>>5213928
basically, yeah
watch the reddit lit and book subs
then come here an hour later

all the same topics popping up

>>5214333
>Going to reddit
Why do you even know this, anon? Like even in a non-memetic way that website and it's userbase is and are retarded through and through.

I honestly didn't really get much from TBK. I never really connected with any of the characters or any of the concepts, and a lot of the time it felt like a bit of a struggle to read. I'd place it as my 4th favourite Dostoevsky novel, after The Idiot, C&P and The Double.

>>5214286
Einstein got dated.
Plastic bottle barely decays.
Therefore, plastic bottle must be better.
>Inb4 false equivalence

>>5214340
I like /r/scholar and karmadecay is a good way of finding source of images.
But yeah, the liberal bias is unbearable there.

>>5213806
Can someone explain exactly what makes Karamazov so good compared to any other technically flawless book? Is it just about the themes? If interesting characters: how so and how is it shown? As autistically as possible if you can.

Fiction and poetry is just something I never understood and I've completed maybe 3 novels in my entire life.

Which edition of Brothers Karamazov is the best?

>>5213806
It's incredibly good but not inerrant. I also do not like the clear Orthodox Christian conceptions that underlie the character's actions

I also wish more had been written about Ivan and Smerdyakov before the book ended

>>5214333
not true

reddit is a circlejerk of discussing high school literature. hell, even one of the mods made fun of it and started making "slaughterhouse 5 daily thread" because there were literally 2 or 3 threads about it a day

>>5213985
He's basically on the top five list of everyone who's into literature and also not really stupid

i was like "jesus will this guy ever stop listing characters and just get started with the book?"

>>5215370
>Can someone explain exactly what makes Karamazov so good compared to any other technically flawless book?

Dunno. It was a good book, but no idea what about it made it a great book. The characters seemed a bit cookie cutter. Aliyosha was a litte bitch.

Only the story about the old priest zusima and his former life really stood out.

>inb4 bad spelling.

Which version of TBK should I purchase?

>>5215624
not the one pictured in the op

>>5213806
what's the best translation for this book actually?
the P&V one? (in the picture)

>>5216190
Anything that isn't that or Constance Garnett (who is alright, just dated)

>>5216190
>P&V
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/the-pevearvolokhonsky-hype-machine-and-how-it-could-have-been-stopped-or-at-least-slowed-down

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-pevearsion-of-russian-literature/

>>5214269
Yes Makar

>>5216302
so I guess your answer is to go with Ignat Avsey ?

>>5215446
>mfw you reminded me
>reminded me that bros k was part of a trilogy
>but Feodor died before he started te second book

>>5214310
Nope he's just a plebeian of /lit/

>>5213928
Swallow a knife.

>>5217329
You sound like a plebeian of tumblr.

Which Brothers Karamazov version should I get?

I usually see the red in in OP's pic, but I can't find it anywhere in Europe.

Dostoyevsky is an entry level hack for redditors. He literally based his entire career trying to be like Tolstoy. No critics take him seriously.
Enjoy your babbys first existensial thoughts.

>>5217526
this

>>5217385
I'll translate it into 4chan for him: kill yourself.

>>5216190
P&V is probably the best for TBK; it's on the syllabuses of most universities

>>5217526
>redditors

I wonder what the root of this fixation with Reddit is. If a book is popular on Reddit, is it automatically disqualified as an object of your "well-read, cultured, yet still romantically obscure" fantasy that you don't realize is transparent to everyone around you?

>>5217526
top pleb

>>5217526
>He literally based his entire career trying to be like Tolstoy. No critics take him seriously.

If both of your criticisms are complete fabrications, can we conclude that you don't know anything about literature and should promptly shut the fuck up about it?

>>5217526
Bakhtin took him seriously.

>>5217526
>Reddit

Dostoyevsky was acclaimed long before Reddit m8

>>5216391

>>5217526
Besides being chritians and russian, their books have nothing in common.

>>5217526
the best thing Tolstoy wrote was that condemnation of Shakespeare.
that's a hilarious read

>>5213865
So I wasn't the only one...

>>5214310
I lol'd.

>>5214422
>The Double
>22