/lit/ - Literature

>>5188734
Thanks for following the advice.

I just have no time to read this (reading and watching other things + studies). But I was considering one day. Can you sell the books to me?

>>5188789

I can! Freaking loved this series.

(Don't watch the movie, though, the movie is crap.)

Although initially appearing to be a typical young adult/'kid' (and I use that term lightly holy shit do these books get violent) fantasy series featuring cute 'talking animals' and their adventures with a rather bizarre dedication to biological facts about the various animal species therein, it quickly evolves into a narration of World War II politics set against a backdrop with questions regarding magic and humanity that are never quite fully answered.

...there's also a spin-off series about the dire wolves from the book too but I admit I haven't read that.

>>5188789
>>5188789
Sorry, I don't own the Japanese
Version myself. I was just browsing some of the book covers on google and happen to find them. However, I highly recommend reading this series. Originally Kathryn Lasky was going to make a non-fiction book about owls, but her husband pointed out that its very hard to do research on them due to how rare it is to find them out in the wild. So he recommended writing a fictional book about them. When she created the book series she included many facts about owls while still sticking to the mythical tale.

>>5189077
Guilty as charged, I couldn't help but watch the movie and buy it on DVD! I was looking forward to it when I heard about it as a kid! I'm thankful that Zach Snyder directed the movie, I didn't mind that he combine the first three books together for the film. I hated how they completely changed Digger's personality jus for the sake of comedic relief.

I highly recommend reading Wolves of the Beyond, it's also very good!

>>5189165

(I can never find Wolves of the Beyond at my bookstores and I don't get the opportunity to shop online all that often, otherwise I'd have read them. Real shame, wolves aren't even my thing but the dire wolf culture was fascinating to me.)

See, I could understand certain plot changes for the sake of condensation, I get that, it happens in every book-to-movie adaption, but there were some changes that really made no sense, like what happened to Soren's parents and the fact that almost all the WWII subtext was thrown out by basically setting it in Australia/Tasmania.

...like changing Digger's personality is only less of a sin compared to...this thing.

Also, tfw no Hortense or Grimble. ;_;

>>5189198

Dammit forgot the picture. Yeah, this thing. This was some lazy-ass writing right here.

>>5189198
Sorry to hear that anon, but if you somehow get the chance then definitely give it a try.

I'm guessing they didn't kill off the parents possibly because of the kid audiences. Oh man I completely forgot about Hortense!! But I'm pretty sure Grimble was in the movie

>if you watched the movie he was the owl who helped Soren and Gylfie escape

I really enjoyed the dire wolves in the books, especially when Coryn met them for the first time. And how he ate (I think an elk) along side a bear and wolf.

>>5189207
Yeah I was confused when the Echidna was in the film. Because I really didn't recognize the character.

Guys, come on, these books are written for eight year olds. What's next, Bailey School Kids? Goosebumps? Stop trying to relive your childhood and move the fuck on

>>5189282
>implying Goosebumps weren't great gateway books.

>>5189276

Yeah I had misgivings about the movie because when Soren got stranded on the ground (also it was Soren and KLUDD, which made even less goddamn sense since Kludd was the one who kicked him out of the nest as part of his initiation into the Pure Ones in the books), that thing that attacked them did /not/ look like a raccoon, which I knew was what they were all freaked out about.

Then when it became clear it was a tasmanian devil and then that mystical deus-ex-machina echidna showed up, well at that point I just started losing hope. Which is probably why I don't remember Grimble, I've blocked a lot of the movie out.

I don't like how they dumbed the material down for kids in the movie. Because all the WWII subtext, which was already mentioned during The Siege in regards to Ezylryb's speech being similar to one given by Winston Churchill during the Blitz, I noticed it more when I was reading...I think it was River of Wind? When they met the blue "dragon owls" (who I think represented isolationist Japan)? Yeah, all the historical subtext was just what I found really cool.

Also, seriously, for a 'kid' series...so violent. So goddamn horrifyingly violent.

>dat owlet cannibalism in the very first goddamn book

>>5189282

Right, because everyone should read some four hundred page festival of manpain thinly disguised as philosophical bullshit? God forbid we go on an /adventure/ for once in our lives.

>>5189282

>>5189305
Exactly! I mean I guess they had to figure out a way to introduce the audience in the pure ones and how Kludd got involved. But they most certainly could have stuck to the original story.
Also in the books Kludd was the original metal beak because he killed the previous leader of the Pure ones.

>Demonstrated in pic related.
>http://reaperneko.deviantart.com/art/GOG-frames-252295727

If a sequel ends up being made then I think Kludd will take on the role of the new metal beak I suppose. Oh yes it was ridiculously violent in the books but it didn't stop me from reading them. Actually my parent were quite surprised by the violence themselves. The reason they got me the books was because I became very interested in owls when Great Horned owls started to appear in our neighborhood.

>>5189305
On the Japanese book cover for 'The Exile' I'm pretty sure that blue thing is supposed to be the dragon owl. I always pictured the Strigga to be a blue great horned owl but I guess other people imagined him as a snowy.

>>5189305
Oh yes, I liked the history references to! I didn't notice them at first when I was a kid but later on it became interesting. I noticed how in one of the books when Dewlap the librarian of the great tree turned out to be a traitor, some books were banned to read. In fact some books were burned.

>Outilissa did not think fondly of this

Speaking of Outilissa, they made her a short eared owl instead of a spotted owl. I kind of found that strange.

>>5189359

An interesting point. Since the battle was obviously 'off-screen' in the books but the movie ended with Kludd supposedly surviving the forest fire and finding Metal Beak's mask (though I can't recall if Metal Beak actually was slain in the movie), does this mean we'll actually see them duel in the sequel for control of the Pure Ones? Perhaps they'll redeem the plot with something akin to a power struggle? Because I will admit...that would be awesome.

>>5189379

Oh my god. That's definitely not what I imagined.

IT'S SO FLUFFY!

>>5189397
>>5189397
From the looks of things I think it's safe to assume that the previous High Tyto in the movie is dead. Because when Soren was nearly killed in the film by the High Tyto at the last second Soren managed to get a hold of his burning branch and burned the High Tyto to death.

Yeah I wasn't really expecting the Strigga to look so shaggy either lol

I just remembered, didn't the band defend themselves against a mountain lion or puma during the Journey? That was pretty awesome

>>5189456

Damn. I wanted a power struggle. Ah well, maybe we'll have the whole childhood of Nyroc instead and what happened to Philip.

>>5189487

It was a bobcat, I think. Slightly less awesome but given that they were like...the owl version of pre-teens and that bobcat had already killed a much older owl blacksmith, I'd say still pretty awesome.

I really enjoyed this series when I was younger, along with Warriors (forgive me, I never knew about the rabid fanbase), Silverwing and GOAT Redwall.

I guess the idea of animals and very dark themes really interested me.

Did anyone else find Firewing to be incredibly horrifying for a child to read?
>Main protagonist's son is kind of a pansy, who accidentally kills his best friend via immolation
>Both father and Son are dragged to literal Hell
>Inferno-esque descriptions of torture
>Motherfuckin Dante hanging out in Hell
>The book ends with the Villain winning and escaping hell to plan domination, and the hero's son/son's friend barely escape at the cost of Shade's soul
What the fuck

>>5189500
If they produce a sequel I'll definitely be looking forward to seeing Nyroc. Although I wonder if they would still make Nyra kludd's mate? I mean he was younger than her in the movie...

>>5189631

For some people, that's a fetish.

Technically wasn't he younger than her in the books too? Because she was there when they went to the family nest and told him about the initiation, didn't she? So it really all comes out the same, I think.

>>5189572
>GOAT?

Man that does sound extremely horrendous but makes an interesting story. I've heard of silver wings before, is that another book in the same series?
And wasn't it turned into an animated feature? I watched half of it, it was 2d

>>5189723
There are 3 books, Silver Sun and Fire.

There was a tv series of the first book

>>5189323
this is bait isn't it

>>5189779
Really? That sounds cool! By any chance do you think it might be online?

>>5189786

Actually not bait, it's just why I don't come on /lit/ that often. I won't deny philosophy and intellectual material isn't good but sometimes I just want to read about owls flying into battle and people having fantastic adventures, is that so wrong?

Speaking of traumatizing parts of
books, I just remembered how at one part of The Capture when the little owlets who were moonblinked at St.Agelius laid down on their backs and let bats bite their chests. That part always made me cringe..

>>5189809
>>5189809
Not wrong at all if I say so.
I love a good non-fiction book. Kathryn Lasky is planning on making another series about horses soon. Kind of curious how it will turn out.

>>5189839

Given that I own horses IRL, that WILL be interesting. I'm curious if she'll take the usual route with making them all majestic and wild and beautiful and shit.

Because believe me when I say this, they are honestly dumb as hell.

I'm reporting this thread. This is a book series aimed specifically at children while this board is 18+ and intended for adults; the series has absolutely zero literary merit, as I know because I read these books when I was in the first fucking grade; and also I don't want the emotionally stunted manchildren who still like and read these books to accidentally leave their containment thread and start browsing /lit/. To tell you the truth, I'm a little bit offended that these people would even feel comfortable posting their dumbass remarks about Cool Owl #3's superpowers on this board.

>>5189848

“A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.” - C.S. Lewis

>>5189848
It's still a well written piece of work. Quit being so butthurt.

>>5189799
Full series:
http://youtu.be/UflPxEOX6cY

>>5189652
You do make a good point there. Maybe it'll work out

>>5189848

>>5189848
This post made me giggle

>>5189868
>>5189869
>>5189911
>>5189921
Cool picture memes bro.

>>5189903
Thanks anon

>>5189868
Agreed. Just about to finish The Wind in the Willows for the first time and it was bitchin.

>>5189848
So this is what /lit/ trolls are like...

>>5189931
>memes
>on 4chan
How dare they

Some more cool covers

>>5189845
>You will never have a book about retarded horses doing retarded hours things.

>>5189845
>You will never have a book about retarded horses doing retarded horse things.

>>5190065
>>5190068
>>5190074

Jesus, the Japanese cover art is way more beautiful than the American versions. Looks a lot more epic in sweep.

...although I admit the American ones do a good job with the general badassery in some cases.

>>5190082

>>5190074
I really like the Japanese covers for Harry Potter.

>>5190090

those ARE really nice, very stylized

>>5190090
>>5190096

I admit I'm partial to GrandPre's work (she's a Florida artist if I recall) but this style is interesting. Sort of has a chalk art/pastel thing going on.

>>5190082

WELL NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE I WON'T.

>>5190083
The American version of some of the covers do have some cool aspects to them as well, it just in the Japanese version they added more images that had to do with the story. I just realized that in this cover of the book

>>5190074

Those bright colored owls must be the pirates that took Gylfie. And then if you look closely in the bottom right hand corner there's a gold owl. I forgot who it was but I remember they painted themselves I in the gold dye to trick the pirate owls into thinking that she was a god. And I want to say that the little screech owl with the snake might be Ifgar.

>Ezlryb's younger brother that ended up betraying him in the battle of the Ice claws

>>5190090
Damn those are nice!

Bump

>>5189323
>because everyone should read some four hundred page festival of manpain thinly disguised as philosophical bullshit?
Yes, what the fuck is wrong with you?
If you're going to desecrate an art then at least don't tell me about it on /lit/ you fucking manchild.

>>5189809
>is that so wrong?
It is when you're commiditizing an art with genre-fiction children's trash.

>>5190355
>>5190359
>you, right now

>>5190355
>>5190359

This is exactly why I wish this thread could have stayed on /co/ through usage of the animated movie. Because of the pretentiousness and the anti-fun attitude of this gorram board.

Also, desecrating an /art/? Please tell me your head is not that far up your ass.

What would you prefer me do, anon, write a 5,000 word discourse about the political ideologies found in The Wizard of Oz or some shit?

>>5190377
I know this will be confusing to you because you are mentally stuck in the fourth grade but some people actually do enjoy reading "serious literature"

>>5190377
Fuck off, not everyone is as pleb as you.
>>5190444
You can have fun with real literature you fucktard.

>>5190446

We're not saying there's anything wrong with that. Shitting all over something someone else likes just because it's a series targeted at a younger audience (when we're enjoying our discussion) is what we have the problem with.

>>5190462
>when we're enjoying our discussion
Who is this "we"?

>>5190464

>>5190462
Your "discussion" (i.e. sharing pictures of owls in strange helmets and commenting on how badass they look) annoys me and I don't want you borderline-bronies polluting this board; /lit/ is already shitty enough. Please just go back to /co/ where being a manbaby is encouraged

>>5190485
Just a reminder: when you die, nobody will care. Everyone will forget you ever existed.

Now. enjoy your serious literature, Mr. Mature Adult.

>>5190485

Except you entirely missed the part where I brought up the WWII analogies. Is that not /mature/ enough for you?

I swear it's like you people look back on your childhoods with bile and hatred. Who in the fuck spit in your Lucky Charms?

>>5190493
I will, you plebeian.

>>5190485
>>5190446
>>5190359
>>5190355
I can't help but laugh at you. Just get off your high horse asshole.

>>5190548
How about you just get the fuck off of /lit/, cretin.

>>5190563

>>5190783
... by posting an image for ants.

>>5190968
I love you to

>>5190575
>>5190783
Nice memes. You're really defying the "manchild" stereotype, here.

>>5191005
> faggot who spends all his time still bitching on the thread when clearly it's dead

>>5190355
Yeah, do not make any concessions or pony fags will invade our precious lit