/lit/ - Literature

post your address so i can rape you and you'll see how beautiful it can be

>>5034948
Speaking hypothetically or do you want a real example?

I guess it's permissible in the same sense that any form of torture would be. Then if torture is ever permissible, I'm not sure

Raping a rapist would be a nice symmetry.

>>5034948
If a woman falsely accuses you of rape.
You should be able to rape her once for every day you spent in jail/prison if proven to be false.

>>5034948
What about Deistic/Bestial rape?

Leda and the Swan

A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

How can those terrified vague fingers push
The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
And how can body, laid in that white rush,
But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

A shudder in the loins engenders there
The broken wall, the burning roof and tower
And Agamemnon dead.
Being so caught up,
So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
Did she put on his knowledge with his power
Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?

No one cares about your shit moral threads, just pick up a copy of mill stuart, nihilism, or some Abrahamic shit instead of spit balling questions

>>5034967
It fits in with eye for an eye morality as well. I think we've found our example.

It's not generally an aesthetically relishing experience from the victim's standpoint.

>>5034996
The victim's standpoint is much less interesting than the aggressor's

>>5034995
>It fits in with eye for an eye morality as well

eye for an eye is not moral according to our Lord.

>>5035004
Especially considering that the victim doesn't have a standpoint aside from "I don't want this".

>>5034986
Why? She didn't rape you.

She should serve the same time in prison herself. Which is what has happened in a few cases: Brian banks

Probably not, I think ultimately the answer would lie in whether or not the outcome (possibly a child) would be able to instill more positives in the world than the power of the negative that conceived it.

>>5035011
Women deserve the worst they could possibly get

>>5035004
I don't know, I wrote a rape story from the aggressor's viewpoint but I don't think it was supposed to be "beautiful". I doubt rape ever seems beautiful in real life, even to the aggressor; in fiction, you can make just about anything aesthetic tho. But it would be difficult for me to find it such.

However, the OP is talking about real life. As a moral nihilist, I'd say it's not morally anything. But on a personal level I find it the idea extremely disagreeable and something I would take action to interfere with even if I weren't the victim. Rape is a very upsetting idea to me

>>5034948
Any chance that I get to cum, regardless of how it is achieved, is a beautiful thing.

>>5035011
Fine, but she has to serve it in the same prison as the male did, in the male sector, in the same cell.

have fun, bitches

>>5035021
So are you a guy or what?

It really is an odd one, as murder can be so easily made into something beautiful, and rape which is decidedly less evil really can't. Nick Cave could never release an album called 'Rape Ballads'

>>5035042

If it's war and you're the winner you're basically entitled to the enemy's cunts

>>5035042
>>5035058
its a tripfag

so its probably something confusing from tumblr that gets offended if you look at it because of cis-paranoia

>>5035054
Murder is usually made beautiful in the context of revenge.

Rape is more akin to torture, and torture is by nature crude and ugly.

>>5035072
Even torture can be made into something somewhat artistic though, how many films have you seen with a torture scene?

>>5035070
I'm just a regular woman

>>5035093
The OP is talking about rape in real life, not rape in art.

>>5035097
>I'm just a regular woman
Well you're also a man who lies on the internet saying he's a woman and that's a little bit irregular

No.

>>5035006
>eye for an eye is not moral according to our Lord.
I'm a bible expert and eye of an eye is the prime ideology present in the bible.

>>5035103
whatever dude

>>5035107
for*

>>5035006
Only if your Lord is Jesus Christ. YHWH was into it.

>>5035109
Does anyone have any pictures of this thing?

>>5035107
>I'm a bible expert and eye of an eye is the prime ideology present in the bible.
Humility, pacifism and asceticism is the prime ideology of books of Christ. Otherwise, yeah

Rape is a concept, not an act.
The same way a relationship is a concept. You can do it/have one, but it is not an objective 'thing'.

>>5035113
>Humility, pacifism and asceticism is the prime ideology of books of Christ.
>books of Christ.
I meant the Old Testament.

>>5034955
hehe XD

>>5035021
Maybe if the victim feigned rape (or even consent) and it was from their perspective.

>>5035093
Well 'somewhat artistic' is a far cry from beautiful.

The torture scenes in reservoir dogs, oldboy or clockwork orange serve an artistic purpose; all are still repugnant.

>>5035131
A blood eagle is pretty cool

>>5034955
10/10

Also, OP, fuck off with your poor understanding of the world.

All domination is beautiful.

>>5035021
Rape fantasies are extremely common among women.

>>5035140
BDSM rape-play isn't really rape by definition.

Rape is an act of violence. A corruption of sex. Only homicidal sociopaths find it "beautiful"

>>5035135
I'd take it over scaphism

>>5035152
I see I'm not the only one who googled "blood eagle" and clicked the "25 coolest kills humans did" link

>>5035151
lulz is a corruption of lol. Only vanicidal sociopaths find it "beautiful"

>>5035151
You need to use a dictionary. The words you are using do not correlate to the subject matter.

>>5035140
>Rape fantasies are extremely common among women.
And among men. I'm not sure where you're going with this.

>>5035164
Is it among men? Where did you get your statistic?

>>5035164
Among what men? Homos?

>>5035165
It definitely is. I've done rape play with a girl before, and have to say it was enjoyable.

You're sort of missing the point completely though.

>>5035171
Do you mean, the fantasy wherein the male is a rapist?

>>5035176
Yes.

>>5035163
Naw I checked em. Meant to call the rapist a sociopath with homicidal tendencies, but it all came out like that off the top of my head.

>>5035166
Everybody gets their kink on, yo.

>>5035177
That's separate bananas
I mean it's like fantasizing about robbing a bank as opposed to fantasizing about being a bank teller and getting shot by a robber

>>5035177
Naturally that is the case. I presumed Feminister was making the claim that males commonly have the fantasy of being raped.

Yes, men have fantasies of raping and women of being raped.

>>5035178
Antisocial behavior is bad, then, given some implicit moral view of yours.

>>5035114
This is the stupidest shit I've ever read. Its an act the same way having regular sex is an act or eating an apple is an act and is in no way relatable to a relationship

>>5035211
*most stupid

>>5035072
>Murder is usually made beautiful in the context of revenge.

But that's not true. There are multiple examples of aggressive, non-revenge murders being presented in an aesthetic manner that belies that gruesomeness and baseness of the act (while even simultaneously intensifying it). Look at something like The Silence of the Lambs for example (particularly the guard's death).

The reason why sexual crimes can't be approached the same way is the deep, deep cultural/social meaning built around sex that sanctifies and yet criticizes it simultaneously. It seems strange that a torturer/murderer could quite easily live a normal life after doing their time yet those who committed sex crimes are institutionally marginalized and essentially exiled (and no don't point to some high profile celebrities who have managed to be mostly unaffected long-term; chances are if you found out your neighbor was a sex offender you would at best avoid them and at worst actively attempt to ostracize them).

The logical end of dismantling stigmas and cultural taboos around sex is classifying sex crimes as akin to serious assault and battery.

play rance

>>5035021
>I wrote a rape story from the aggressor's viewpoint but I don't think it was supposed to be "beautiful"

Thanks for telling me this mostly irrelevant and very uninteresting piece of information

>>5035401
Considering we're on a literature board, it's broadly the most relevant statement in this thread

>>5035417
How do you, as a girl, feel about getting your anus hole licked? There's probably gonna be a few girls at my house tonight drinking and I really wanna just stick my face in one of the ones that don't have chlamydia, but I don't know if my efforts would be appreciated

hehe

>>5035426
I wonder how she feels, as a girl, licking someone elses anus. Be it a male or female, the act of licking an anus is quite literary.

i would argue that, given the right context, anything is permissible given that it prevents something worse happening.

with regards to being beautiful, it seems a rather vulgar act but there can be beauty in vulgarity. the futurist movement was largely driven by the idea that art could be just cruelty and violence, so by that logic cruelty and violence could just be art. i think it would depend on how you'd present the act, although reading that back it seems a bit obvious

>>5035706
Everything is permissible. People who believe rape is an absolute taboo are naive.

Rape is immoral. And unfortunately, it can be beautiful. But not in the way would-be rapists think it would be.

And no, I don't think we will ever be able to consciously sublimate the entirety of Rape, ever.

>>5034948
rape is the total humiliation of another human being. it's taking away any sense of dignity and personhood the victim has for a time.

so no. and I'm a guy. I don't care about rape jokes or whatever but the actual act is never permissible.

>>5036554
>rape is the total humiliation of another human being. it's taking away any sense of dignity and personhood the victim has for a time.

Here we reveal our culture's sanctification of sex. Even the most violent assault can't rob me of my personhood: only penetrating my body for pleasure can do that.

>>5036569

assault is a violation of your personhood (i.e. your autonomy) and so is wrong. rape is a sub-category of assault.

>>5036569
wow put words in my mouth. you just make shit up and go with it, right?

i said nothing about sex. rape is about sex but it's not just about sex for the victim. it's about being forced to bare themselves and to endure someone else's hedonistic psychopathy. they could be foced to be tied to a chair and be shat on and not be penetrated and it'd be the same violation.

there goes your "cultural sanctification of sex" you fucking idiot.

>>5036749

You're raping this board with your retarded posts

>>5035016
>the end justifies the means

a child being born and a woman being raped are too separate things. one can't justify the other. if it could, then there would be any number of variables that we could use to do this.
if you can't do this with the whole of creation, why do you think it would be a trade off between these particular incidents?

>>5036760
good one, anon. as soon as someone gives a shit you're all set.

>>5035113
>pacifism
>asceticism

I'll give you humility but those are wrong.
>jesus cleanses the temple
>wedding feat @ cana

>>5034992

nice

>>5035070

she posted a grill because grill sounds kind of like girl. she's a girl.

>>5035160
leld

>>5035054

I think it's because murder can be used to elevate the killer and debase the victim. Rape, on the other hand, debases both the perpetrator and the victim. Killing can be a selfless act, used to stop an evil force, but rape is solely for the rapists pleasure.

depends on the narration

Homer wrote beautiful rapes

It is a very interesting idea OP, might part of the horrifyingness of rape be the confrontation to other people afterwards? The shame? If you assume that no physical harm is being done, except restrain and a bit rough sex. Usually I could imagine rape is a grossly physically harmful process. But physical restrain in itself is rather harmless, sex is usually enjoyed by people.

Still, the only thing you would be able to do is kind of make it a neutral thing, but then it would just be some kind of 'rape-play'.
Rape can never be beautiful because it destroys the beauty of both sex and the idea of seducing a consenting girl. Rape is very unaesthetic, since the true aesthete will make women think they are the seducers

The idea that most sexually active men have the desire (somewhere at least) to have sex with every women who is fit to bear a child is disturbing as well. We have learned that it is not good to follow your desires and all, but it's still a twisted balance between men and women.

>>5037599

>The true aesthete will make women think they are the secuders.

Are there any examples of this in classical literature? If not, in what literary period did it appear?

>>5037599
>We have learned that it is not good to follow your desires and all
Whom are you quoting?

As a moral nihilist I state yes, but not personally as I do not like the idea of rape.

i guess if you were raping someone evil and it was a just punishment?

>>5037632

Anyone watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? That was pretty rapey

>>5036419
Time travel isn't permissible.
But thankfully, gouging out the eyes of rapists before slitting their throats, is. Now wouldn't that be "beautiful", hm?

>>5037308
So one true story about Jesus came through all the sappy legend, big deal. The general message of the NT included all that.
It's a big contradictory mess, there's no making sense of it.

>>5037360
Again, not what the OP was asking. Art can depict anything in some beatific terms.
Actual rape. It's one of the brutalities of life people commit suicide over. It is not beautiful. >>5037629 Morality aside, it is still not a "beautiful" thing. It is liked by the rapist and disliked by the victim.

>>5035021
Look at femmy taking an essentialist stance. Loving every lel.

>>5035112
I have a picture of butterfly

>>5038381
I just want to let you know that I hate you and you ruin this board

>>5037360
>Homer wrote beautiful rapes
He might have alluded to rapes. He never wrote any, since dwelling on sex in song--in detail--was considered unfitting in Homer's time (as per Powell's "Homer"). I cannot recall any sex scene in Homer being more than "and they mingled" or whatever.

male on male rape

like the vikings

yes.

>>5038905
How long have you been coming here? It's been like this forever. There used to be far more Ayn Rand threads, but mostly it's been this way.

>>5038928
Still not beautiful. Still looking into fictional rapes? How about prison movies. Their male on male rape scenes are not meant to be seen as "beautiful"

>>5038899
>The typos. They hurt.

>>5035058
>grill
>gril
>girl
What fun memes.

>>5038942
Goddammit butterfly you're so fucking obtuse.

Anon was saying he doesn't like YOU and that YOU ruin this board

You really are autistic

>>5034948
Never.
Period. There's no debate on it.

>>5035706
Are you aware of what you're saying? You're talking about rape, right? Under which "context" would that ever be "permissible?" Your claim is absolutely ridiculous, disgusting, problematic etc. I really hope you don't mean it. Jesus.

>>5038980
A thousand times this. How can people in this thread claiming otherwise be serious? I really hope they're not. But if so, it's definitely not something to joke about.

>>5038980
everything can be debated

>>5038995
not everything can be debated.

>>5034992
Where's this from?

>>5038979
Capitalizing it doesn't make it anymore clear, but hey, I type some muddy messes too. He means "you ruin this board for me", I suppose you mean. So uptight. Big shock. Wew.

>>5038995
Just because it can, doesn't mean it isn't a ridiculous waste of time and energy. Your time would be better spend debating something that isn't so cut and dried. Rape is a loathsome, violent act, which is repugnant to evolved life forms.

>>5034948
>beauty?
Isn't the clash of living wills in a forbidden act of sex-violence beautiful? I think so.
>permissible?
Who has the authority to tell you what is permissible?

>>5039009
Stop discussing what I don't like. Stop it! STOP!

>>5039045
You are willing to share your infallible knowledge! You provide the bigger picture! You are so smart!
Looks like you're the expert! Amazing!

Rape always being bad is a spook

as a strict utilitarian, rape is ok if the pleasure the rapist gets from it is greater than suffering it causes

>>5039056
As is the idea of rape ever being morally acceptable.

what if someone is raped and they get pregnant and the kid grows up to assassinate the 2nd hitler, therfore averting the third ww? then is it okay to rape someone?

>>5039076
We'll see how you feel when we rip your asshole open.

>>5039081
id just rape you back and derive enough pleasure from it to outweigh my own raping. np

>>5039076
that's why gang rape is always the best kind of rape

the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one

>>5039081
Feel free to remember that this topic--which really doesn't belong on /lit/ since it never even bothers to reference rape in philosophy or literature or apply philosophical terms to it--attracts trolls like leaving steaming shit in a pie tin on a windowsill attracts flies.

>>5039085
>apply philosophical terms to it

rape is a concept. rape can be deconstructed. that's what you see happening here by "trolls." there's your token use of a philosophical/literary term.

Any impingement upon the life of another is a travesty. That is the great absurdity of this existence, the outright denial of god. That's why Jesus fasted for 40 days and nights, after all (not that he's real).

>>5039089
And that's why the bitches say "kill yourself" and do take such chuckles with rape. If they're trapped here, they'll be the highest bastard.

>>5035021
> As a moral nihilist,

>>5035140
>>5035151
>>5035097
>>5037329

All these retarded Tripshits

Wtf happened to /lit/

>>5034948
ITT: people who should be banned from this LITERATURE board for life, you shitposting and shitresponding faggots and dykes

>>5035010
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Rape isn't always typical aggressor vs helpless victim
In fact it rarely is.

When I say 'rape', everyone in this thread is thinking of an innocent woman in public minding her own business when suddenly a crazed man defies all social norms and leaps at her unzipping his penis because he has some sort of mental illness.

we picture it like other random acts of violence like knife assaults but neither are these totally random. Usually there are words exchanged, details that probably never come to the attention of the police because it suggests the 'victim' invited the attack.

Just like violent disturbances are most of domestic altercations, rapes is often something between friends, so called friends or partners.

We know all this and it's been documented in film with dramatic effect and artistic merit.
We still like to ignore it because we don't like to think someone, our fellow human beings, least of all someone we know well, could act with behaviour usually regarded as feral and inhumane.
But this isn't a realistic idea of violence. Holding rape and crime in this regard let's us dismiss it as simply deranged when really the circumstances are often very complex and quite possibly very human.

>>5039087
Rape can be merely a concept, but doing something against the will of another person can also be a concrete reality. Slavery can be "just a concept", but there's also concrete slavery.

>>5039106
slavery is a concrete reality, but rape is a concept

>>5034948
>>5035054
>>5035006
>>5038995
>>5039080
>>5039098
All these retarded anonymousfags

What the fuck happened to /lit/?

>>5039110
Care to explain why rape is less of a concrete reality than slavery is?

>>5039110
That's stupid, mate. And so is this: >>5039104
And qt girls think they can make it all OK and consensual and that's their saviour. Roof!

Life's a bitch and then you die.

>>5039116
because whether or not something is rape depends entirely on someone's thinking after the fact

>>5039123
No, it does not. It has to do with whether the sex was consensual or not; non-consensual sex which was "good in retrospect" (probably indicative of an abusive relationship) would still be rape, and consensual sex which was traumatic and shit in retrospect would not be rape. Just like whether or not you were working for someone for free consensually defines slavery, not how you feel about the work afterword.

>>5039114
>Being a retard

You're a fucking faggot you know that

Rape is a moral construct. Arbitrary laws denote our discomfort from sex achieved by means of antithetical paths of life.

Remember, we shant stray to the right nor left

>>5039127
consent is someone's thinking.
it is not a concrete event like a table being sanded.

i'm completely serious. think about it.

>>5039120
How is what I said in >>5039104 stupid?

>>5039136
>consent is someone's thinking
consent is agreeing to do something:
>consent 1, noun
>con·sent1 W3 /kEn5sent/ n [U]
>permission to do something
>agreement about something
stop trying to redefine concepts to uphold your bullshit

>>5039136
>consent is someone's thinking
>ownership is someone's thinking

Therefore slavery is just a concept

>>5039145
most consensual sex is only implied. Most people don't ask beforehand, 'are you okay with this?' let alone asking routinely throughout.

OP didn't even define whether he was referring to real life or in art/literature.

>>5039148
consent is someone's thinking. do you agree?

but ownership isn't what was at stake, but the work done, as you said.

>>5039149
I'm not sure how many relationships you've been in, but in the ones I'm in sex is pretty much always planned ahead of time. I'd also say that if you try to undress someone without some of obvious green light, you're going to upset them.

>>5039149
>most consensual sex is only implied
because there is a context in which consent becomes almost obvious, and even when there was no consent, the non-consenting person would make it clear, at least if there is mutual respect and trust.
you have to be a real autist or live in a weird society to not understand that.

>>5039155
Not necessarily. Consent is more simple willingness, which humans admittedly have a more complex system for, but even animals express willingness or lack thereof for certain things.

Yes. And consent determines whether the work done is slavery.

Feminister, have you ever seen Silence of the Lambs?

Rape is essentially a particularly detestable form of torture. If one accepts that torture is sometimes morally acceptable/beautiful/permissible, then it follows that rape is also sometimes morally acceptable/beautiful/permissible.

>>5039168
Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me

As a utilitarian, I'd say that it depends entirely on how many people are doing the raping and how much pleasure they derive from it.

There's no win in this world --not really.
>>5039142
>Human
Let's not romanticise the beast, mate. The only thing is to overcome it.

>>5039172
Haha. I was more talking about the part where Clarice tried to silence the lambs, though. Very Nietzschean, I think --when he tried to save that horse being beaten.

>>5039164
consent seems like something you can easily tear apart with a few well-put deconstruction style examples, but i'll come up with them some other time.

i have thought for a long time now about how it is always assessed by its range of consequences after the fact. i mean in terms of any action.

regarding relationships, it's come to my attention how, say, dragging someone along to see a movie both of us suspect they won't like (but which i think they might appreciate at the end) is somewhat analogous to the other thing we are talking about. did they consent to the film if they hated it all the way through? is there a tacit consent just to be with me? i think these are all things you need to think about.

>>5039178
Well, more human than Nietzschean, but it stands to him.

>>5039181
Dude compares rape to seeing a movie with your girlfriend that she doesn't want to see.

>>5039185
the logic of consent is being used to define rape. consent is general enough to take both those cases as instances, yeah.

I don't get that god shit either --that Christian retard yesterday preaching that our mission is to learn to be good. Surely, the success of that mission rests upon hating god and what he has made and usurping him with greater decency. Vonnegut screams that attitude in his humanism; I appreciate it.

>>5039178
I hadn't really thought of that. I generally saw Nietzsche's horse incident as the demarcation of his insanity, but do you think it had something to do with conscious torments?

Q:Is rape not rape if rape is not rape?
A:if rape is not rape then rape is not rape.
Happy?

>>5039194
Yes, it's quite common, though I'm not sure of Nietzsche's circumstances --usually it comes with the passing of a loved one and our feelings must find someway of exerting themselves upon the world. I think Nietzsche's "insanity" was more the forfeit of his long search for Truth, the reasons for his search coming to the fore once more.

>>5039181
There's a lot of debated extension to what consent entails, but for the purposes of this discussion we can just assume a willingness. We won't assume a quid pro quo unless you include threat. There is real consent; the term might perverted to bullshit, but slavery can be too ("Taxes are slavery!")

Generally speaking, dragging someone to a movie without their consent is not possible.

>>5039204
Well his writing definitely got better and better up until the point that he lost it.

What do you think the reasons for his search were?

>>5039206
You could knock them out and bring them to a movie. Just like rape.

>>5039204
I went through something similar with my grandfather's passing, actually, and afterwards it felt as though that were the culmination of all before, the only reasonable end, though I'd never have thought so beforehand.

>>5038928
wut? vikings? You don't mean that shitty show from 'Ancient Aliens' channel?
Cause real historical vikings surely weren't fags.

>>5039208
Yes, that's why I said, "Generally speaking."

>>5039207
Like everyone else, Feminister, he would eradicate suffering.

>>5039213
I don't think so. Nietzsche said pain was a requisite for pleasure, for without pain, pleasure becomes mundane and indistinguishable.

>>5039212
Generally speaking, an act of dominance involving physically violating someone's body is not morally unacceptable and not beautiful.

You imagine this senario like "I bet you can't rape me - just try - I betcha can't!"

>>5039219
Yeah. OP agrees. He's asking whether this "generally speaking" is broad enough to be considered as "all the time".

>>5039219
*not morally acceptable

>>5039219
yeah

>>5039215
Well, you're wrong. I find he was a mountain of rationalisations, all of them failures. He even seems to give into some pathetic solipsisms along the way. That "insanity" is what rings truest, purest, with me. Everyone makes those rationalisations, as if to imagine it's all all right, has purpose, is benevolent, etc.

>>5039226
And yet, he preached ubermensch, and deprived himself. Would abolish suffering by subsistency.

>>5039222
Beauty is not inherent, but a consideration: I would not say most rapists consider their acts beautiful, precisely. Can rape ever be *considered* beautiful? Sure, anything can be be considered anything. Would I ever consider it beautiful? No.

>>5039224
that too

What if a woman raped a man for the purpose of conceiving a messianic figure?

>>5039229
>Beauty is not inherent, but a consideration: I would not say most rapists consider their acts beautiful, precisely. Can rape ever be *considered* beautiful? Sure, anything can be be considered anything. Would I ever consider it beautiful? No.

Right, so we're back to square one. No argument ever goes anywhere on a board populated with ethical relativists.

>>5039226
I think his philosophy was more aesthetic-based than reason-based. Where he used reason, it was because reason was aesthetically pleasing to use there.

>>5039234
I'm not an ethical relativist, I'm a moral nihilist.

Beauty is not ethics.

And this discussion can't go anywhere, it's a merry-go-round, you're just whining about it being pointed out as such.

>>5039226
>>5039228
And then you have the likes of Stirner, in contrast, who are but delusion --"It's all about my pleasure; there are no gods with threats, for that would be more unjust than I could ever be; I am king of the world; etc."

>>5039240
>unjust
BEEP wrong

And the pretty girl sees dog and man the same . . . and it's all all right, there's hope. You're kinda like Clarice, Feminister, only kinkier.

>>5039241
No, I'm not wrong.

>>5035113
fk u btch

>>5039240
Nietzsche, then, would deny that god, too, but replace him with eternal recurrence, which put power more in his hands, and everyone else's, hands. It's all nonsense and selfishness, though.

>>5039156

What she says: "If you do things without my permission I will be very irate"
What she thinks: "I'm in control I'm in control I'm in control I'm in control I'm in control"
What she thinks deeper down: "Take control of me like a man"

>>5039254
Oh shut up.

If domination is not beautiful, then humanity can not be beautiful, and if humanity cannot be beautiful then you cannot be a nihilist. What is it that Feminister truly means by saying rape is inherently bad, besides her placing her mind into the mind of the rape victim and realizing that losing your primary female value is soul crushing?

>>5039238
You're right, claiming to be a moral nihilist while asserting moral claims about rape is contradictory.

>>5039344
You're an idiot.

>>5039156
>sex
>planned ahead of time
Like written down on a calendar?

>>5038381
>Time travel isn't permissible.
did you mean possible instead of permissible or am i missing something

>>5035021
You're not a moral nihilist you fucking retard

>>5039345
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>>5039462
Not permissible, to counter his "everything is" and impossible at this time and probably forever.

>>5039345
Please quote the section that I made moral claims about rape