/lit/ - Literature

Evola is basically what leisurely women read (chakras, Atlantis, might as well throw in astrology), but for right-wing men.

>>5031566
Feminister with yet another embarassingly stupid post. Well done.

>>5031558
>How would I ease into it, via secondary literature or something?
Read Evola with a computer close at hand, and just fucking Google it when he uses an occult term or talks about obscure historical events.

>>5031570
>Another mistake of evolutionism is to conceive of some forms of miscegenation which presuppose emergence of other races that are superior either as civilizations and biological specimens or as products of "evolution". These races had their own origins; because so much time has elapsed (as in the case of the "Hyperborean" and "Atlantic" races) and because of geophysical factors, these races have left very few traces of their existence and what remains is difficult to spot by those who merely seek archeological and paleontological traces accessible to profane research.

>>5031572
You could say the same for reading Kant, but simply googling some of the terms wouldn't make you understand him any more. You simply need extra knowledge, not an extra set of facts and definitons.

>>5031577
>I'm going to set out to show that there are underlining factors of reality, in addition to mathematics, which can be discovered
Kant
>auras told me so
Evola

People who read Evola on this board also turn out to be rampant shitposters about how the modern world is so terrible and the middle ages were clearly better because pretty statues. Now, I'm not saying correlation equals causation, but it's just something to keep in mind.

semiliterate pls

There isn't much background info needed. Just dive straight in.

>>5031558
He has a lot of esoteric stuff, which you should try avoiding, but he also has a lot of stuff worth checking out.

>Ride the Tiger
>Men Amongst the Ruins
>Revolt Against the Modern World
>Fascism Viewed from the Right

Pick any one of those and you got an alright start.

>>5031570
It is probably the best post Feminister has made. Need I remind you that Evola wrote about how to practice black magic? As an adult, mind you.

>>5031566
Is he the right-wing's answer to Tumblerites writing about being an otherkin past-life transgender turtle?

Hey Feminister, your romantic life would be a lot easier if your boyfriend took to heart some of Evola's ideas about "spiritual virility." Just sayin'.

>>5032383

her romantic life would be a lot easier if she wasn't mentally ill and going after lumbering retards

>>5031577
Depends on which Evola book you mean. If you're trying to read his works about magic and shit, there's not much hope of understanding him no matter how much you research beforehand.

If you're reading Revolt Against the Modern World or Ride the Tiger, it's not that hard to look stuff up as needed.

>>5032096
>implying RAtMW isn't esoteric as fuck
There's loads of chapters about occult hyperborean pre-history, Vedic mythology, initiatory ritual cults, etc.

>>5032518
Yeah, but just read Ride the Tiger next and he'll swallow his words. Don't dawdle in between or you'll turn into a vedic tantric hindoo yogi bear

>>5032150
>Is he the right-wing's answer to Tumblerites writing about being an otherkin past-life transgender turtle?

I’ve read and appreciated Evola, but as much as I hate to admit it, the answer to that is "yeah, sort of."

Over the past ten years, in (justified) response to the increasing derangement of the mainstream left, there’s been an explosion of interest in reactionary / traditionalist / counter-Enlightenment philosophies. Unfortunately for Evola, compared to Guenon or Carlyle or Kuehnelt-Leddihn, his ideas are pretty easy to turn into a caricatured TL;DR for appropriation by alienated plebs. (His ideas about esotericism and “secret history” are much more subtle than left-wing trolls make them out to be -- he’s not talking about a literal, physical Atlantis, for starters -- but it’s easy for a naive or inexperienced reader not to pick up on this.)

A good comparison from the left would be Judith Butler’s concept of performative gender. Agree or disagree with it (and I strongly disagree), it’s an interesting concept which Butler’s original texts develop with a high degree of philosophical literacy. But compared to (say) Kristeva or De Beauvoir, it’s also susceptible to a confused teenager’s one-sentence appropriation: “I’m wearing pants instead of a skirt… guess that makes me a boy today, tee-hee!”

So, in the same way that the fat, awkward girl who really ought to lose weight and learn to dress properly becomes a ~fierce, radical genderqueer activist against thin privilege~, the nerdy introverted boy who ought to spend more time socializing and less time reading occult ebooks becomes ~a warrior-scholar standing alone but unbowed amidst the decadence of the Kali Yuga~.

>>5033804

Fuck, and I was looking forward to reading him.

>>5033821

No, definitely read him! My point wasn't that he's not a worthwhile writer (he is), just that he's easy to misinterpret and turn into a pleb-tier lifestyle signifier. But the same can be said of most philosophers, really.

>>5033827

What do I start with?

>>5033821
If you want serious criticism of modern liberalism and it's emphasis on equality, check Vilfredo Pareto.

You should read Evola if you want esoteric bullshit and a lot of bizarre thoughts and insights to fuel your mind.

>>5033833

Ride The Tiger. It's his most accessible and practical book, and it's a good introduction to the overall shape of his thought.

>>5033844

I don't really need serious critiques, I've got enough of those already.

>>5033845

Cheers.

>>5033844

>modern
>he died in 1923

Are you retarded? Do you know how much western culture has developed since then?

>>5031558


notes on the third reich and fascism viewed from the right are probably his most accessible from a political stand point since they are historically grounded critiques.

i also recommend path of cinnabar and metaphysics of war.

>>5033853
do you even modern?

>>5031558
I wouldn't bother. He's basically just a fascist with a bunch of mystical woohoo thrown in to look edgy. Read some Chesterton for some actual traditionalism.

>>5033899

butthurt Catholic who doesn't know how to into the Mithraic mysteries detected

>>5033899


>ebola
>fascist

not that im validating your use of 'fascism' as a snarl word in anyway, but factually speaking he was never a member of the italian fascist party (see the 'autodifesa') which would sometimes get him in trouble whenever he wrote negative articles about them.

>>5033918
I know he wasn't technically a member of the Fascist Party, but he was still a fellow-traveler and strongly associated with fascism.

>>5033853
1923 is modern, these days is postmodern.

>>5033945


much like how foucault is associated with buttsex.

>>5033949
And you see where that got him?

Why not support city states with a high proportion of slavery and warrior nobility and temples to pagan gods? That at least sounds interesting, the post-warrior nobility was so dull. Or if we're going for something truly specular, how about Spartan states? But not like in history, but like in the movie 300.

>>5033955


lel

>>5033918

Yeah you're right he wasn't actually fascist. He didn't think fascists were reactionary and hierarchical enough.

>>5034006
exactly

>>5034006
Fascists weren't really reactionary. I mean, on one level they can be seen as a reaction against Marxism, but from a Marxist perspective they are merely an acceleration of capitalism.

>>5033957

>like in the movie 300

>tfw when this will soon be possible due to genetic engineering
>tfw annoying marxist college kids are forced to kneel to a nine-foot-tall god king and his army of mutated orc soldiers

>>5034029

The same could be said of 20th-century "Marxist" regimes that ended up forcing primitive accumulation at gunpoint on their peasantry.

>>5034088
The Epic Manifesto

>>5033804
>Kuehnelt-Leddihn

My favorite. <3

People, don't read Evola, read him.

>>5034104
Why don't more people like you? You seem like a pretty cool dude.

>>5034353


>tripfag circlejerking

sasuga

>>5034353
I have literally never been in a thread where he has agreed with the majority opinion. Ever.
Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong, but the fact that it's every time makes him seem contrarian.

Also, he always sounds so painfully smug.

But he cooled it with the semicolons, so that's nice.

>>5034353
A lot of posters like me. A lot of posters don't. Some dislike me for personal reasons, some because they find my arguments obnoxious, some because they are misogynists, some because they detest tripfags, some because they find pleasure in disgust.

>>5034552
the main reason is actually what this guy says>>5034414
Your comments read like you dont respect whoever youre replying to

>>5034353
Fuck you dude come the fuck on we were having a thread over here.

>>5034552
Ugh.

Is it worth it to read Revolt before Ride the Tiger, or should I just go for RTG first?

Keep in mind I already bought both and they're currently on the way ;(

>>5034378
>>5034414
>>5034552
>>5034560
>Tripfag
>Contrarian
>Overly verbose
>Dismissive
>Implied feminist
>Implied "btw im a grill" in every post
Is Feminister the perfect storm?

>>5031576
Can you fucking stop it with the bullshit?
You are not fooling anyone.

>>5031558
>like the metaphysics of sex
That's actually one of his more academic works. He is a rumoured virgin.