/lit/ - Literature

The 48 Laws Of Power

The Game

>>5033973
The Game is a bad book.

>>5033973
They were hardly clever. The book's ok, but they're pretty much glorified manchildren.

How To Talk To Anyone
How To Win Friends And Influence People

Othello

Most of these books keep it on the DL, in my experience. Cialdini is the most interesting, though; he gives you deeper stuff, even if it's still surface level. I just spend my time watching Derren Brown videos and figuring out what he's doing, to be honest. He's good, too, because he gives a hint in most of his videos as to how it's done.

>>5033963

How To Win Friends and Influence People

>>5033980
I was joking. If you want to manipulate people in rl, it's mostly a matter of practice, it's like tennis, you can't get good just by reading a bunch of books.

But for OP's purposes: try "Propaganda", by Bernay. Jack Vance's Cugel works also feature a very manipulative protagonist.

>>5034011
>Bernays

Oh, "Pimp", by Iceberg Slim. Although it's highly distressing and depressing, and not something you can "enjoy" conventionally, so be warned.

>>5034011

Yes you need practice but someone armed with knowledge and actual methods to practice is going to be better off than someone who just does it.

I'm so good at this stuff >:D

Protip: If a girl asks you do you live close to wherever when you're trying to get her to go home with you, always, ALWAYS answer "Yes".

>>5034030

DEVILISH TACTICS

>>5034023
Only if they don't think everything revolves around methods. Can you imagine if there were a board for manipulation? It would have a bunch of shut ins.

You learn practical methods intuitively with practice. A lot of people, when they read on how to socially go about shit and try to mimic it, you're just like uhhh and you can see right thru them

>>5034034
Seems simple, right? But answer "No", and boom, gone. It's an attempt to establish some sort of control over you and the girl's surroundings. And then you can extrapolate pretty much the entirety of female psychology from there.

>>5034035
Yeah, I know. Dude's gotta have sex, though, and women are wired only to be fucked by those tactics.

>>5034038

>guy a reads a book on tennis and finds out the right way to hold his racket
>realises the book was right when he tries it the other way in just minutes

>guy b just picks up a racket and goes for it
>may take weeks to realise hes holding it wrong
>may never realise

Practice smart, not stupid.

>>5034022

>not enjoying "Pimp"
>wtf is wrong with you

Donald Goines's novels are good too, he breaks down a lot of the psychological tricks pimps use to keep their hoes in line.

>>5034038
Feminister, I bet I'd sweep you off your feet in minutes <3

Well, I feel dirty now. I get thrills thinking about this shit.

>>5034053
Except tennis has strict rules and expectations and methods. Socializing is a lot more complex with different fields and rules and expectations and--it's almost a collection of sports, and, like a language, you'll find that actual interactions with it will build fluency and proper pronunciation better than anything else. Trying to learn from a book, then trying to con someone with a language--heh....

>>5034058
Yeah, I found it a bit emotionally upsetting.

>>5034066
How do you know she has feet when you've never met her? Please, please check your normally-abled privilege

I fucked one girl before, who was playing all "oooh", by fucking her friend first and then she just had to have it, made a complete slut of herself.

>>5034089
It's that skillz, man. I can see you through the internet.

>>5034090
Manipulation is about a lot more than getting laid

I asked a girl her name one night, she told me to guess what it was. Guessed right. Instafuck. What was her name, /lit/?

>>5034097
In my better moments, it is.

>>5034100

Melanie Rae Thon

>>5034108
Wrong. No sex for you.

I'll give a hint: I felt like fucking god.

>>5034100
Outis

>>5034119
No, Feminister.

>>5034118

Mary

>>5034123
Haha. You literally cannot write this shit. My life is so fucked up.

All right, I'm gonna go pray for forgiveness now.

>>5034100
Shaniqua

I knowingly manipulate and extremely effectively and profoundly manipulate everyone around me as regards absolutely everything, to be quite honest. I am a complete bastard. I try not to hurt anyone with it, though, just take from them generally.

>>5033973

good choice

>>5034038

this guy is right. You cant learn people from a book.

>>5034144
That's just how life is.

My favourite trick is putting songs into people's heads without them knowing. And oh, it was their idea to put it on the jukebox.

I can make people smoke on command, they never knowing I'm doing it. I can make them buy me drinks, they thinking its completely out of their own heads. I am a legit bastard, lol.

>>5034176

How do you do it? Hide the lyrics in a sentence or something?

>>5034184
Yup.

http://www.amazon.com/Document-Human-Manipulation-Counterintelligence-Interrogation/dp/160796483X

>>5034188
Or you can even garble the rhythm of it. People are so much more aware than they think they are, process and realise and take suggestion from so much more than they think they do.

>>5034022


nice

>>5034011

i would also recommend the book of the courtier, influence: the psychology of persuasion, the con: how scams work, no more mr nice guy, unmasking the social engineer, and propaganda: jacques ellul boogaloo

also this http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/05/dove.html

>>5034196
Rhymes, too. People hear rhythm first, then match that rhythm to possibilities in their heads.

It's actually just amazing the depth of consideration your mind puts into every little thing.

I'm a master at poker, too. I'll know what cards you have like 9 times out of 10. The person takes suggestion from the cards, like an idiot. One time I was sitting across the table from a dude named Jack and two Jacks up on the table, clubs and hearts or something, and he playing with his diamond earring. I had a flush, lol.

I can make people miss shots in pool by making them feel bad about winning. Obviously I spent a long time as a drug addicted sex fiend.

It's not easy being really fucking intelligent.

I'm so going to hell.

>>5034087

You bought up the tennis analogy, deadshit.

>>5033963

Well.

The lies of locke lamora could teach you alot.

it's not really a set technique, it's about improvisation and talent.

>>5034313
No it couldn't. Lynch has some basic ideas, but no real art.

>>5034313

Oh, and mimicry.

mimicry is key.

>>5034324

I agree, the character just pulls stuff outta his ass most of the time.

>>5034332
Cutesie.

pualib.com

Enjoy, faget.

Also, it's more PUA-related, but I recommend googling "RSD Tyler". He's a living legend when it comes to manipulating people.

>>5033963
>I'm playing an evil person in my DnD group
I think what you should do is watch Breaking Bad, and if you've already seen it then I want you to watch it again and then pretend to be Walter White. There are a lot of things you can do that might make this easier, like buying some headphones and then playing the breaking bad opening theme song everytime your character does something. Maybe you should also shave your head, and remind yourself that you're doing this for your family. And also pretend that there's a little guy constantly saying "bitch" all the time right next to you. There are a lot of very beautiful things that people can do to improve their D&D sessions, and this is just one of them.

Also, lily of the valley.

>>5034281

That dude Tyler is legit good at what he does. He's dumb, though. I literally resent dumb people being dumb I'm so intelligent.

>>5034374
Yeah.

Learn to lie.

Just being able to lie without any regard for morality shifts the power balance tremendously in your favor.

Practice lying every day, multiple times. Do it for no reason if you need to.

Also, to remember your lies, mentall create three versions of yourself. The first one is real and you're the only one who knows it. The second one is you, but the version of you for which all of your lies are true. And the third one is not you at all, it's just some completely, entirely different character.

This allows you to not only remember your lies better and think of what they would change if they were true, but also lie very spontaneously by juggling the personalities in your head.

Op here, wtf happend to this thread. All I wanted was some book reqs and half this shit is completely irrelevant

>>5034488
one anon shitposting, i think.

>>5034690
Good post, anon.