/lit/ - Literature

>>5010268
>Chinese Literature
Gongsun Long (very difficult)

>>5010268
Homer and Hesiod are the beginnings of Ancient Greek. I assume the rest of your list is just as wrong.

>>5010284
Tell me who can be compared to Homer and Hesiod ?
Wanted to add Anacreon but I couldn't replaced Hesiod with him.

Also give me your list, mine is obviously not the best.

>>5010268

>British Literature : Chaucer and Shakespeare

The correct answer is Blake and Shakespeare.

But honestly it is more just Blake listed twice.

>>5010268
Ancient Greek Literature : Homer and Hesiod - Plato.
Latin Literature : Horace and Ovid (no Virgil hurr) - Catullo, Cicero and yes, Virgil
Italian Literature (hard one) : Dante and Petrarch I would say - PETRARCA, not Petrarch; then Boccaccio, Ariosto, Tasso, Marino, Leopardi.
Spanish Literature : Cervantes and Quevedo (no Vega hurr)
French Literature : Hugo and Racine - Rabelais, Moliere, Baudelaire and Laforgue.
German Literature (hard as well) : Goethe and Hölderlin (or Hesse) - Kafka Kafka Kafka.
Russian Literature : Dostoyevsky and Pushkin (no Tolstoy hurr) - Yes, Tolstoy, Goncharov but over all GOGOL.
British Literature : Chaucer and Shakespeare - Marlowe, Shelley (M), Woolf.
American Literature : Eliot and Whitman - Melville, Thoreau.

>>5010294
not him but: Sofocles, Thucydides,Aristophanes

>>5010308

>German Literature (hard as well) : Goethe and Hölderlin
yes
>(or Hesse)
lol why would you ruin a good post by tripping over yourself this badly

>>5010308
Yes, but I tried to place only 2 writers. Actually it's really easy to mention 5 of them.

>>5010308

>British Literature :
>No Blake

Post disregarded.
He is the final boss of all English lit, m8.

>>5010294
Aeschylus or Aristophanes or really anyone with more Attic wit and compounds. The Hellentistic period I'm assuming you're excluding as Roman.

>>5010268
>French Literature : Hugo and Racine

roflmao

>>5010310
Sofocles, why not, but I had to make a choice.
>Thucydides
No, Euripides and Aeschylus are far better.

>>5010308
> Baudelaire and Laforgue.
obvious troll
>Kafka Kafka Kafka
please

>>5010331
Tell me who is better than Racine in versification ?
Hugo is for sure one of the most important poet of the romantic era in France (and please don't tell me Rimbaud or Baudelaire because the are NOT romantic poets).

>Latin Literature; Horace and Ovid
>not Lucrecio
shiggy.jpeg

>>5010331
Mallarmé or Saint-John Perse would be a way better choice.

>>5010349
Mallarmé is God Tier, but not better than Racine.
>Saint-John Perse
obviously trolling

>mfw this list

>>5010394

but u r a basic bitch tho

So British Literature : Blake and Shakespeare ?

>>5010397

say that to my face fucker not online see what happens

>>5010355
>clowning on sjp

typical /lit/ poster

Proust is the final boos of French literature. Accept no substitutes.

>Russian Literature : Dostoyevsky and Pushkin (no Tolstoy hurr)
kek

>>5010567
seriously this. his influence on french literature is unparalleled, this isn't even up for debate.

>>5010340
Corneille.

Hugo is a good choice but there is a problem. He wrote so many books that one life is not sufficient to read them all. That's kinda frustrating nah?

It could be fun to draw a tree which could permit more subtle variations than just: "the 2 final bosses are:".

Each branch could represent a country, and the more you rise, the more you progress through time. Colors could be applied to mark the "style" (romanticism, realism, symbolism, dad, surrealism, ...

One other thing that would be interesting. Some authors admit (it's not just a supposition, they said/write it) they find their inspiration in the books of other guys (like Gogol who played the little devot dog when it came to Puchkin, ...). These link are important IMO.

Finally, the "difficulty" is hard to define. Of course Cervantes is easier than Whitman, but finding a general consensus seems out of reach.

>>5010331
>>5010340
>>5010349
>>5010355
>>5010629


>tfw no proust

>>5010567
>>5010609
>Proust
ultimate kek
Tell me this after you read Molière, Hugo, Gautier, Mallarmé, Lamartine Vigny, Racine, Corneille, Rimbaud, La Fontaine, Montaigne, Rabelais, Baudelaire and Maupassant in French.
>hint : you will never say this because you are just a plebfag who only read Proust and never heard about the XVI in French Literature

>>5010308
>Laforgue
lolno
He couldn't even make two good alexandrines in a row.

>>5010629
>Corneille
I'm happy to see someone who has the same preference than me. I'm not agree with La Bruyère and I really think that Corneille is better in his verses (maybe the baroque influence ?).
The idea of 2 final bosses is pretty stupid I agree.

>>5010268

Literature: Joyce

>>5010674
This.
Mentioning Laforgue is almost outrageous.

>>5010664
Proust is better than some of these authors. Maupassant above Proust? Are you serious? It's like Citroën above Bugatti, or Beaujolais Nouveau above Mouton Rothschild.

>>5010683
I agree for Maupassant, but he is the only one.

>>5010664
>hugo
>not the genre fiction shit of his day amongst the likes of dickens

next you'll tell us that jules verne is the pinnacle of art

russian/english: nabokov

>>5010691
>plebfag thinking that Hugo is a novelist
His poetry >> his plays >>>his letters >>>>>>> his novels

>>5010702
>thinking someone's writing style changes across medium

>Hesse

>>5010716
no

>>5010688
Proust is at least the equal of all of the others.

>>5010729
That's a really good joke mate.

>>5010733
>i don't like proust thus he sucks!!!!!

>>5010745
>judging that I don't like Proust because I'm not agreeing with you

>>5010745
>i like proust thus he is as good as the others!!!

fuck Ovid
Plato > Hesiod

>Hugo

lol

>>5010301
nope
Blake's poetry isn't very English. It's reminds me of German mysticism.

>>5010798
>>Hugo

>lol

What have you read of him ?

>>5010683
>Beaujolais Nouveau above Mouton Rothschild.
*genuinely laughing*

You did drink a glass of the second one?

And the Beaujolais Nouveau has an awful taste, it's just a tradition, nothing more.

>>5010308
Final bosses? Most of those are babby's first.

>>5010268
>hugo
leld irl

>>5011169
With whom would you replace Hugo ?

>>5011225
Hint : the only possible answers are Chrétien de Troyes, Ronsard, Montaigne, Molière, Corneille, La Fontaine and Voltaire.

>>5010798

>Blake's poetry isn't very English. It's reminds me of German mysticism.

You aren't very good at semantics, you cheeky little cherub. But Blake still smiles at you all the same.

>>5011312
But Mallarmé is the final boss of french littérature.

>>5012257
So true. His poetry is so perfect.

>>5012291
He was the chosen one.

>>5010268
>eliot
>no fucking faulkner

>fucking dostoyevsky

>actually thinks "or hesse" and not "or kafka"

>doesn't put hermes trismegustus in both latin and greek categories

>doesn't read the egyptians

>racine
>not proust

NIGGA

>>5010326
I'm not that anon, but what do you suggest I read of blakes? I already read songs of innocence and songs of experience, and while I thought they were good, I wasn't blown away

>>5011312
Racine, Balzac, Proust.

>>5012479
I can't make
>French Literature : Racine and Racine
Use your brain please.
>Proust
Please.
>Balzac
I assume that it is a joke.

>>5012501

>>Proust
>Please.

It's amusing how hard you're trying right now.

>>5012513
>Comparing the revolutionary oeuvre of Hugo to Proust's books.
Even if they are really good, he isn't as great as Hugo.

>>5012521

>he isn't as great as Hugo

You have set yourself completely arbitrary qualifiers and you're trying to pass them off as the only available qualifiers.

>>5012533
True, I'm pretty tired to be honest. You are maybe right. Hugo's oeuvre is so huge that it is hard to judge it all. Balzac cannot replace Hugo in my list but for Proust.. I don't know.

>>5012257
>>5012291
>>5012315
Seriously?
It's too hermetic for me.
Seems to me like random words come from nowhere without making a lot of sense, just for the sound of the verse.

(I'm referring to poesie.webnet.fr/lesgrandsclassiques/poemes/stephane_mallarme/stephane_mallarme.html)

COuld you point me in that list 2/3 ones which are "easy"?

>>5010268
>American Literature : Eliot
I see what you did there

>>5010268
Also using Homer as a final boss is bullishit because we know all Homer work was written by the same person

>>5012624
Brise Marine, Le tombeau d'Edgar Poe, Les fenêtres.

Good Luck anon

>>5010268
I'd have included Stendhal aswell.

The final boss of Canadian literature.

How do you guys not feel dumb as fuck saying "Final Boss" and being serious about it?

>>5012832

>Carson
>the final boss of anything

She's decent and all but stop being shit a shit-headed fangirl.

>>5012834

We aren't being serious about the term you autist. We're just running with it because of OP.

>>5012832

>Carson
>the final boss of anything

She's decent and all but stop being such a shit-headed fangirl.

>>5012834

We aren't being serious about the term you autist. We're just running with it because of OP.

>>5010268
>German Literature (hard as well) : Goethe and Hölderlin (or Hesse)

What about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettels_Traum and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Without_Qualities

>Final boss of German Lit
>no Mann or Musil

For Chinese Literature its Dreams of the Red Chamber and the Tao Te Ching (which seems simple but basically sets the foundation for a lot of stuff in old Chinese society, like their theories on war, on sex, on morals etc...). For Japanese Lit its probably Tale of Genji and Tale of Heike.

>>5012475
marriage of heaven & hell plus that other awesome one where the king has to wander around

>>5010268
If final boss were to mean "most difficult" I would put propertius above ovid any day.

Final boss does not imply greatest difficulty. In many dungeon crawling games the final boss is less difficult than the minor bosses and elite packs/trash fights.

Epic boss simply implies a conclusion of the dungeon's story and a grandeur of scope not present in the preceding bosses.

In this context I think it's inappropriate to assign "final bosses" to any cultural literature since most of the literatures you have listed remain active and organically growing to this day.

However, I think it is valid to assess works in terms of the "epic" factor--the vastness with which they confront the issues of the time--while still respecting the relevance of modern works and the continuing evolution of contemporary thought.

>>5014438
what an analogy. My mind is boiling.

Xanadu's dungeon with big boss inside in pic related.

>>5012661
thx mate, I'm gonna print and read them slowly in my bed in order to feel the poetry

>>5014438
I don't think that's what the OP had in mind but I love your analysis.