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Can a martyr really suffer?
Some friends and I are going to eat only a bowl of rice a day next week to try to better understand what it's like to be a poor child in Cambodia or China. But if we're doing this for a reason, will that dampen what we're doing? It's not like little sweatshop laborers choose their living conditions. Will we become knights of faith and transcend the mortal coil?

>> No.4993314

Yeah, you lose that five pounds off your fat ass and feel good about yourself living your first class life otherwise.

>> No.4993317

>>4993314
Commie faggot pls die <3

>> No.4993325

>>4993301
That's kind of like what Seneca did. He was the richest man in the world and occasionally he faked like he was in a shipwreck and traveled like it; so that he would not grow tired of being rich. Though to him that was maybe bringing along two slaves instead of five, lol.

>> No.4993333

>>4993325
Le epic xD +1

>> No.4993336

>>4993325
But we're not doing it because of ennui. We're doing it for empathy.

>> No.4993337

Another slum tourist.

>> No.4993351

>>4993336
You're doing it because you're a brainwashed white guilt faggot who would be better off leaving the country permanently. You will not learn or change anything through this. You're doing exactly nothing and will suck yourself off for it. You are a detriment to your race and species, and life in general.

>I'm going to intentionally make my life worse for the sole purpose of doing so, I'm so worldly and understanding!

No, you're a retard who's been trained to hate himself and believe that denying the basic drive of life itself makes you anything other than fucking retarded.

>> No.4993383

>>4993351
I don't understand why you're so angry. I don't hate myself. In fact, I'm very happy that I have the choice to decide if I eat a bowl of rice or 3 steaks in a day. What makes you think this is masturbatory? I'm not worldly or understanding. That's the thought behind doing this doing this. I don't see how an experiment is necessarily retarded. Perhaps you should put up a real argument.

>> No.4993387

>>4993383
Nah you're just seeking catharsis because your life is so easy, but your empathy is meaningless and you're not helping anything

>> No.4993392

ITT: baits and counterbaits

>> No.4993394

>>4993387
>Nah you're just seeking catharsis because your life is so easy
Why do you think that?
> but your empathy is meaningless and you're not helping anything
I didn't think I was going to help anything. How is my empathy meaningless?

>> No.4993437

Understanding and empathy are never bad lessons.
Anything that takes you away from the internet and makes you use your mind is a good idea.
Next you guys should try limiting your daily use of internet.
You are no martyrs but you sure are trying to learn and understand, which is a good thing, for you more than to anyone else.

>> No.4993444

>>4993394
It's not what you do, its that you are doing it.

>> No.4993773

>>4993301
i recommend to get urself addicted to meth cigarettes coffee and alcohol and candy as well to increase the withdrawal feeling u will get from instantly switching to rice only just to better understand what it s like to be one of those so called poor children enjoyin the absence of all kinds of shit they never had and therefore never will miss. if u cant imagine any problems worse than a rice diet i can understand a bit why u attempt to figure out ways of feeling pain in this world... ur first try is pathetic ofc but the intention is kinda noble i think...

>> No.4993830

Yeah, because pain gives a fuck why you're feeling it.

>> No.4993869

>>4993301
>>4993301
Okay, there are a couple of things wrong with this project. Eating a bowl of rice for a day may be inconvenient and even difficult, but distilling the entire life experience of a poor child in a foreign country into something as banal as eating rice falls absolutely short of a simulated experience. To experience fully what it is like to be poor in Cambodia or China would entail nothing less than being poor in Cambodia or China.

Of course you are entitled to move to either country and do that. But your agency in doing so removes you from that lived experience in another way. You, as a financially secure person, can choose to inconvenience yourself, starve yourself a little. A person born into poverty does not have this luxury. This lack of choice is the reason that I think most if not all kinds of simulated experiences of plight fail to produce empathy. The ephemerality and temporary status of your decision removes you from an authentic experience of suffering. It is arguable that you are not fostering empathy but gratitude for your own comparably cozy position in life. This is the same reason simulation of disability is also ineffective.

Finally, the valuation of empathy itself must be questioned. It is possible that you will actually suffer a lot through this restricted diet. The plight you feel may actually match or even exceed that of a poor Cambodian or Chinese child--an unlikely scenario, but possible I suppose. But even if you achieve that, there is no guarantee that you will foster empathy. there's nothing preventing your plight from overtaking that of others. And once you stop recognizing the plight of others, then empathy is not possible. Or, more insidiously, if your empathy is formed by your plight taking the places of others, then that kind of empathy is problematic for reasons that should be obvious: you have, through your own affect, erased another.

>> No.4993943

>>4993869
and niggas still hatin
so much hate i need an ak

just let the guy have his week of rice only and experience whatever comes with it
its not gonna be an authentic 1:1 representation of how cambodian/chinese kids live, because when he's not eating that bowl of rice he will be on the 4chans or playing the dota or whatever, it's stupid, it's pointless, but jesus christ does it matter, let him do it lol, don't put him on a cross just yet

>> No.4993952

>>4993943
where do you think we are? this may be the most belligerent and elitist board on 4chan.

>> No.4993956

a bowl of rice is very filling. you can't even suffer right.

>> No.4993959

>>4993869
tl;dr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM

>> No.4993970

>>4993869
You just repeated the ops concerns in a wordier way. Talk about style over substance

>> No.4994238

>only a bowl of rice

You know poor Asians don't exclusively eat rice, right? Otherwise there would be widespread kwashiorkor.

>> No.4994247

I keep meaning to do something similar but with flat bread, red wine and olive oil.

>> No.4994254

>inb4 OP eats 5 bowls of white rice in 5 days and goes into a diabetic coma

>> No.4994271

>>4993959
>tfw no common gf

>> No.4994274

>>4994271
You don't want one. Trust.