/lit/ - Literature

FUCKING FINALLY

what is this i dont even

THUMBS UP!
LOADS DOWN!

Does ZWG accept just poetry/short stories or is it branched out to essays?

>>496174
There were essays in the first edition.

Is this 100% /lit/ made? I'm skimming through the poetry and it is generally great, I'm impressed.

>>496176
That's pretty rad. Thanks, Anon.

>>496177
98% /lit;, 2% /x/.

>>496174
We accept essays.

>>496169
/lit/'s bimonthly reader's digest.

>The Gift by Josef K
>Alecto by Jeremy
FUCK YEAH

>>496153
>More russian themed shit by Darrin

I'm okay with this.

yay! my story is there, thanks :D

http://www.mediafire.com/?zgmzywwztdo

Mirrored uplad for y'all.

>>496190
Please don't, we need to get data from the downloaded files.

>>496196
We hope to see more of your works on the following issues :3

Uh what is this?

>>496210
read
>>496187

>He is lonely,
>He is anonymous.
>His story is a cool story.
>Bro

Good thing I read the whole of the first issue so I can just skip to the few good writers...

>>496194

Russian Roulette isn't actually Russian.

neither is Russian salad dressing.

>>496229
as someone who didn't, who are they?

>>496234
Josef K
Jeremy Levett
Darrin

Though there are lots of new names in this one which might be good.

Where's the next part of Dark Horse Sense?

>>496243
We'll send a request to the author.

>>496268
Sent.

>Blam!! by Jake Nealy

I feel like this was written with the intentions of trolling /lit/

>>496268
Wait, so you explicitly said that you would split larger submissions up over several issues, put in an incomplete story with "To be continued..." at the end, but didn't think to clarify that was the author's "TBC whenever" and not the zine editors saying "tune in next bat-issue"?

How maddening!

>>496299
Actually, he sent us only this part.

Do you guys have any serialized works planned? All this short fiction is nice but I was hoping for something a bit more... meaty.

>>496305
Fair enough, but you could make that clear in future. A paragraph in italics at the bottom saying whether or not there's definitely more to come or something.

>>496330
Yes we have. Right now we have more serial writers than serial works, but we're working on it.

>>496339
That was the author's choice bro :/

Just finished The Gift.

Was great. I plan on visiting each piece in turn later on before bed.

Great work this time.

The combined effort spent in this is quite inspiring. Are you guys planning on advertising this on the other boards? It has the potential to become something huge.

a bunch of lame shit
best part was the cover

>>496380

Maybe you should submit something then, TEST YOUR MIGHT

Holy shit, it actually is written well.

>>496330
Remember that this is just the second issue. With this out, maybe we can notice some authors that are more popular than other, and those authors can then be suggested/threatened to do a serie.

>>496369
Thank you for your appreciation :3

>>496377
After the fourth or fifth issue we're advertising it outside 4chan. Our plan now is to expand it to the other boards.

>>496386
Thanks bro :3

Blam was lulzy

>>496390
>advertising it outside 4chan.
Meh, that kinda makes it less special.

>>496380

>>496405
It will never lose it's /lit/ roots, don't worry.

The Sound and the Fury didn't submit anything?

;_;

I was hoping he still had the heart to keep going, despite the shitstorm he endured after the first zine. Hope he didn't give up...

>>496411
No, but we're encouraging him to keep working.

>>496411

Elaborate on said shitstorm. What happened? I didn't read it.

>>496390

>expand it to the other boards.

Please don't. Go right to other writing websites. thepoetsanctuary.net has a ton of people who write great stuff, and you won't have to shovel through mountains of /b/-tard "then a skeleton popped out but who was phone harry and ron buttsecks" bullshit.

>>496418

It has been established by consensus that his story, "The Collector", is empirically terrible.

>>496418
Read 'The Collector' on the first issue and you'll know why.

>>496426

I thought that was the first story. The one about that kid who is gay for his dog.

>>496418

He submitted a story that was unfortunately placed directly after one of the best stories in the zine. It suffered greatly under comparison (forced dialogue, wooden prose, etc) and /lit/ went batshit about it. TSATF made a thread later asking for ways to improve his writing and a lot of people told him more or less to quit. Some people tried giving good advice, but most of them just complained to his "face" about what they didn't like.

I just hope he took it well. The story had promise, the execution was just iffy.

>>496434
[Untitled] by Dallas was awesome.

are we encouraged to post critiques?

>>496469
Yes you are.

>>496469

There's a review at the end of this issue, I believe.

>>496475
Two of 'em.

>The Long Goodnight

"On being locked up" was one of my favorites of the last issue, is a shame it does not get mentioned oftem

>>496485
You can fix it.

"On being locked up" was one of my favorites of the last issue, is a shame it does not get mention in the zine threads

Awesome issue. Can't wait to read it. Hopefully I'll be able to finish at least one piece for the next issue.

Heard people are printing it.

Good thing, this way more people'll know about it.

>>496498
as a writer and author I would love to have a physical copy of the zine, perhaps something could be arranged to do this and support the zine at the same time.

This is too fucking cool. /lit/ for the best board on 4chan

>>496499
We're brainstorming about selling printed and binded copies so we can gather some money to make a writing competition or something like that.

Where on the site is the link? I only see the inaugural issue download.

>>496512
Nevermind, I suck cocks

>>496512
You tried refreshing the site? If that doesn't work, you can click on the second issue's cover.

>>496505
cool, is good to know that :)

>>496512

reload (press f5)

if that doesn't work, here is the direct link:
http://zwg.wildwestwaffles.com/ZWG_-_March.30.pdf

I got it, just had to refresh.
Thanks guys

>Litchfield

I don't know what the fuck I just read, but I liked it.

>>496484
What does that reactionface mean?

Good things?

out of all the genres, only creepy/horror has one story?
is it even good?

>>496539
Cool things bro.

Author of Blam!! here, there's nothing you can do about it now, but for future reference, the name's supposed to be Jack, not Jake; not getting pissy or anything, just saying.

>>496544

Christ sakes, typo in the first paragraph on the first page of the first story.
NOT EVEN A SMALL ONE.
"the small creek in the our backyard"
Come on people, we can do better than this.

The Gift felt like fantasy horror to me, but with a semi-oblivious narrator.

>>496541
Just finished that story, and it was sad. Whoever wrote that has a fucking dark heart.

>>496549
One question: what were you smoking when you were writing? A vintage comic book or something?

>>496563

I'm glad you got what I was going for.

Thanks for employing an illiterate reviewer. It seems you've went for someone who is willing to sugar-coat every banal criticism he can muster up rather than someone who is going to offer genuinely insightful (and, you know, interesting) critiques.

Does this, guy knows how to, use commas, or what? I don't understand, why every other sentence, has to contain a, comma splice.

He is apparently unfamiliar with the concept of possessive pronouns (Seriously? You still don't know the difference between 'its' and 'it's'?) and the comparison between Josef K. and three literary greats: Lovecraft, Camus, and Shute. I suspect he only included the latter two on the basis that both 'On the Beach' and 'L'Étranger' had beaches in them.

>Reads The Gift.
>Well, sounds innocent.
>Finishes it.
>Holyfuckthisiscreppy

So, Rolf Mayo here...

I was in the first issue, but there was so much hate.
Why the sudden change of heart /lit/?

>The Darkest of Fiends
hooooooly shit dude, that was intense

>>496618
That's why Joe K.is one of our all-stars.

Bahahaha, loved Blam!!

Reminds me of a scene from Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth.

Props to the author for piece.

>>496610


I wish his writing were at least interesting enough to pick apart in detail but, sadly, it's not.

Better to restrict oneself to a single paragraph:

"A sparse, descriptive narrative takes us through the sun-scorching of the valley’s
crops- an important precursor to the harvest, the social and geographical history of the valley,
and the people’s connection with it."

Apparently it was a "sparse" but also a "descriptive" narrative, which I suppose is possible. It's also a "detailed" narrative though.

It would also be fascinating to know in what sense the narrative is a precursor to the social and geographical history of the valley.

In case you guys feel the need for another editor in the future, I'd definitely be interested in helping out. Usually whenever someone posts stories on /lit/ I'll be in the thread somewhere trying to give advice.

>>496633
I was NOT expecting that story from the title. But DAMN

Alright, a question of preference.

Do you guys prefer if the writer skips a line between paragraphs or not?

>>496610

My favorite part in the review is: "...although they will correct grammar-, and spelling- related mistake (Which I have feel they'll be doing a lot of in my submissions!)..."

Inadvertent meta-humour?

Oh, The Monthly Circlejerk is out? I wouldn't have known if not for all the advertisement threads you faggots post.

>>496664
Personally, I only like line breaks in between scenes or if time passes.

>>496652
We're already with an overflow of editors. Four of them on the machines and two on probation.

>>496685
This.

>>496664
I think line breaks are appropriate after paragraphs in order to break the flow of the story and introduce a new idea/scene. Otherwise, they aren't necessarily needed.

>>496683
>Two threads in two weeks
Shut up and never come back.

>>496685

So, not everytime the writer forms a new paragraph?

Actually, that does sound better.

I like this idea. We'll try to incorporate it in the third release

>>496693
>>496685

So, you mean something like "The Gift" in the current issue?

By the way, we have an IRC channel now
irc.freenode.net
#ZWG
several of the editors and some of the authors can be found hanging around in there on occasion.

>>496698
As one of the editors, excessive line breaks drives me completely nuts and I usually argue to remove them.

>>496554
Yikes, that's an embarrassing typo.

I'm usually good at catching those, and I deeply apologize for missing that - drives me nuts when those slip through.

>>496731

Double spaces.

Seriously.

>>496743
Unfortunately the sheer power of rage isn't strong enough to properly edit.

>>496730
>hanging around in there on occasion
You mean it.

>>496761
I'm typically in IRC from 8 AM to 4 PM PST (GMT-7 I believe).

It's really great how this went all so well~

Next issue in April 13~15, brethren.

Finished reading

Finished reading "The Pencil"

Excellent plot. The voice was bit flat at parts but otherwise, I enjoyed it.

>>496815
The plot was pencil-thin *coolface*.

Average quality way better than the first one, well done Eds.

>>496631

Nobody hated the first issue man, just trolls samefagging all day.

Any tiers yet?

Is anyone proofreading the final product? There's a bunch of grammatical mistakes. You guys should look into that.

That being said, although the mistakes did detract from the experience it was fun to read. Good on you, /lit/bros.

>>496980
I'm still waiting.

I'm a little late to the reception,but it's nice to see that we're getting such a nice response from /lit/.

Job well done, folks.

I wrote Buster Story. That actually isn't the title. It didn't really have a title at all but that was the filename for the document I sent in. Did anyone enjoy it? I felt it was too wordy at parts and not wordy enough where it needed the meat. The original was very poorly proofread so major props to the editors for cleaning up my half assery.

>>496985
The editors don't judge or edit anything. There's no proofreading involved.

Indifference Engine, I envy your narration, it really amused me and kept me turning pages, in a typical "I FUCKING LOVE THIS," fashion.

Only note, the abrupt end caught me off guard as I felt another strain of whimsical word play on the self meeting the self.


Nonetheless, thank you for the entertaining read. Could you link me to more of your work perchance, were you in a previous issue? Or justfuckingpublishstuff. :D

>>497050
>The editors don't judge or edit anything. There's no proofreading involved.

no. That's a misconception, we edit the pieces. we don't catch everything... but we're getting better at finding errors

Complete chance I visited you today /lit/ what sweet find.

>>497050

I read it up to the first break. After that, it kinda dragged on so I stopped there. I think it might be better off as a short piece.

Although, I did really enjoy the wordplay in the first part, so don't think I hate your work.

>>497062
Oh, my bad.

>>497054
Yeah, the ending has always been the weakest part in my opinion.

As far as other work I've done, there uh...isn't much...I'm working on it.
If I do anything It'll probably either be in this zine or linked on my page on the wiki.

Glad I amused somebody.

>>496215

Oh hell yeah, just got there.

Just finished reading Memories of Ukraine.

Always enjoy reading about Soviet Union. Even better when it's set in WWII. The first part seems to be pretty well written. If the author is around, would you mind telling me how much of it is actually fictitious?

Just printed this fucker out.
Well worth the ink.
Also: Thoughts on the poetry submitted?

i like 'just don't ever become a writer'

>>497140
>Just printed this fucker out.
>Well worth the ink.

Anon, you just made my day :)

>Also: Thoughts on the poetry submitted?
aye, I dealt with the poetry. We have a very good array this time 'round... I guess I can't play favorites and give reccomendation, but it's great to see all the contributions we've had :D

reading through and just read The Darkest of Fiends, and had to stop to post that I'm in love with it.
fucking brilliant
and now, onto more reading...

>>497158
I'm going to have it spiral bound, I think.
I'm pretty sure the library at my school does it for $1.

>>497175
$1
ah,nice
Universities and libraries are the way to go with the zine

>>496207
I will try ;).
By the way: I had a final 3rd draft for my story, but maybe it was too late when I send it because the 2nd one got published instead, but it is ok too

>>496505
+1, i will buy it too

>>496505
Depeding on the price, I will pay for a copy.
No more than 20 USD with shipping, though.

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(ಠ_ೃ)

Do you have to have a trip when you submit work, or can you just send the name you want used with the submission?

>>497230
we'll list the author however you choose to...

>>497231
*you can't be the goddamned batman unless you show credentials

>>497236

>>497242
okay, you're in

>>497246
Awesome, you guys are gonna love my Captain America/Iron Man fanfic!

>>497258
ohshi-

>>497258

I'm fapping already.

>>497258
i don't know who you are, but i am excited for some reason

>>497321
>don't know who you are
Are you dense? Are you retarded or something? I'm the goddamn batman!

>>497344
Well then Batman,
Now riddle me this:
what weights five pounds, sits in a tree, and is very dangerous?

>>496153
Random anon here, just thought I'd drop in and say I've enjoyed the publication thus far, it is good to see people willing to spend their time making the board a better place, if only 4chan had more of the same.

>>497372
a koala with rabies?

>>497376
Thanks bro.

>>497378
A SPARROW WITH A MACHINE GUN2!!!1

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

GET IT? A SPARROW WITH A MACHINE GUN!!1!!!

ITT: all the authors who submitted are complementing their own work

>>497372
Here's a riddle for you, How far up your ass will my fist go before you stop screaming like a goddamn pussy?

>>497407
I dunno

threeee inches?

i have a terrible image of batman fisting the joker..

>>497400
Shit, why didn't I think of that?

>>497407
Whoops forgot my pic.

>>497414
Let's find out together.

>>497417
ohhhh, me toooooo

why don't we try it, huh Batman? maybe Robin wants to join us too...

>>497400
>WWAAAAAAAAAH PEOPLE HAVE AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM MY OWN!!!

>>497431
>implying anon is not legion

>>497429
Nah, he's still sore from the pegging Batgirl gave him last night.

>>497450

*fap fap fap*

Holy Homosexual overtones Batman! We've got to get this dildo into the Riddler's tight little asshole, and fast!

okay, I think this thread has gone far enough.

>>497450

I shouldn't find that sexy

>>497463
You wait your turn you little faggot! He's not done fondling my bat-ballsack.

I'm going to try writing something up. Maybe it won't suck. Maybe.

>>497468
I say it hasn't gone far enough.

>>497468
Apparently, not yet.

>>497431implying this thread doesn't consist of a few readers commenting and a few authors responding to bump this in an attempt for more attention to the ZWG

>implying my opinion was anywhere in that post

>implying the gay batman messages aren't the only entertaining thing in this thread

>>497487
So, your problem with this thread about a zine written by people on this board, is that it's mostly being posted in by people who wrote it or read it?

You're right though the gay batman shit is the best part.

>>497494
My problem is that the authors and the promoter of the ZWG keep trying to bump this when /lit/ is the slowest board on 4chan, and is really quite uneeded.

>>497450

>>497498
If we had more positive, constructive people on /lit/ like you then we would be all set, sadly we are just unpretentious faggots who actually enjoy writing and reading what others write, whether the end result is crap or not.

>>497498
having a discussion and posting comments about the zine in a zine thread is not 'bumping'
it's what you do in this thread. the subject is the zine, and we talk about it.
fuck, why am i even responding to you.

>>497510
>>497515
Dont speak for me anon, you pretentious faggot.

>>497133

The characters and the actual attack that'll be in part 2 are fictional, but are meant to serve as microcosms for the whole "Winter War".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Shit was brutal.

>>497498
Chill out!

>>497528
hmmm

you heard of this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

pretty darn crazy. He killed 505 with only a bolt-action rifle and a submachinegun!

>>497528

Fuckin' A! Can't wait to read the second part!

>>497515
cuz you got trolled cooldog.jpg

I'm liking this issue a lot.

>>496496
Yes, I did not expect that kind of ending at all

Hunh, would you look at that.

Something pretty cool and of actual value, no matter how minimal, actually came out of 4chan.

Very nice, /lit/. Brandish your monocles proudly.

>>496631
Because the people who actually liked the ZWG stuck around for the second issue thread release? You're among friends in a release thread. Otherwise, welcome to the rest of /lit/ who don't care.

>>497608and of actual value

but that's just like, your opinion man

/sci/ fi review:

Alecto: I'm on a plane nigga

Ant on a Hill: holy shit I'm tripping balls awesome

Part 6: B'AWWWW

Stormtrooper Assault: PEW PEW BANG awesome

>“I want to say one thing. One final thing, so listen to me you pigs! Listen to me now,
even if this is the only time you ever listen to me! I don’t care about anything anymore! I
/lit/erature Digest 75 Science Fiction
looked everywhere I could for something! Anything to make me feel like life was worth
trying to preserve and there’s nothing!”
Max jumped off the roof and landed headfirst on the pavement. Most were entranced
by the leap, but the speech made it funny to those who would later watch the video on their
computers.

> the speech made it funny to those who would later watch the video on their
computers.

4chan, helping out the science fiction community since 2010.

>Me when "A Cool Story"

in a good way

Are any of the writers in this thread still btw??

Yeah, but I'm not saying which one

poetry section was not good at all.

>>497682
yes you are.

>>497682
Which one did you write?

>>497682

It's a secret.

>>497680
yep.

>>497685
Part 6

>>497680
I've been in this thread since it started forever ago.

>>497698
Same here I have nothing better to do :(

When posting something in thread how can i return directly to same thread?plz

>>497708
"noko" in the e-mail field.

This board's too slow for noko.

Ant on a Hill made me feel schizophrenic.

i was goin to ask in /b/ but wanted a real answer thanks

>>497725
Go back from whence you came /b/tard vermin.

>>497731
We in /lit/ should try to be above the petty squables:
"Give [us] your tired, your hungry, your poor, and your trolls"

They seem not to have made the changes I asked for to my submission. Whatever, it was only a few words.

Just happy to contribute.

>>497683
Haven't even had the time to read it. Not even one good one?

Fantasy (review):

The pencil was very interesting, the best of the section imho.
The Gift had a nice prose.
Litchfield could be good, it made me interested in the 2nd part.
Lord Creature: NC, is ok i guess.
Blam!: I liked the description of the imagination of the protagonist.

Can we get a tier list for this issue like there was for the last one? Fuck if I'm gonna read all of that shit.

>>497777
to be fair is just 94 pages, even less if you dont count the non-substantial parts, is not that much, really, 100 pages is what I read aprox.in a day.

>>497777

I read through most of 'em already. I'll make one tomorrow noon if somebody hasn't done it yet.

FYI, most of 'em are pretty good. Haven't read the poetry because, eh. Don't read poetry in general.

>>497794
Can we get a preliminary list right now?

Josef K. You are godly. What a great opening.

"Tom Waits for No Man" is an egotistical prick with nothing useful to say and you can tell it right from the start with that condescending "the descent of /lit/" bullshit. /lit/ started off as a /b/ trollocaust and settled quickly into a proper board; most of the rest of what he says is similarly inaccurate and worthless. Is he that pretentious dick who was fucking up the threads with his "criticism" back around issue 1 release?

"I had my trepidations" lol.

He at least managed to pick out two of the best (Josef K and Jeremy) but that's all he's done.

God tier
The Gift
Alecto
The Long Goodnight
Stormtrooper assault (if you're a 40k fan, otherwise it belongs in good tier)

Good tier
Ant on a Hill
Part 6
Memories of Ukraine
Working the Steets.. etc
Blam!!
Lord Creature
The Pencil
The Darkest of Fiends
A Cool Story

Mid tier
Part 6
Dream
St. George
Litchfield
Buster Story

Bad tier

Shit tier

God tier
The Gift
Alecto
The Long Goodnight
Stormtrooper assault (if you're a 40k fan, otherwise it belongs in good tier)

Good tier
Ant on a Hill
Memories of Ukraine
Working the Steets.. etc
Blam!!
Lord Creature
The Pencil
The Darkest of Fiends
A Cool Story

Mid tier
Part 6
Dream
St. George
Litchfield
Buster Story
Part 6

Bad tier

Shit tier

Bad tier:
ZWG reviews by "Tom waits for no man"

If this is stil on: I really like Manual for a Modern Day
Living, will there be more from her?

Also, going out in a couple of hours to pay for my rented house and print this fucker out.

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>>498176

Remove the poetry (because I didn't read 'em) and I'd agree with this tier list.

And yeah, I agree that the review was pretty bad. Otherwise, most of the works were pretty good.

>>497766
We apologize for that. Which story was it, and what was the author? I'll look through the emails to see why we lost your revisions.

>you consider yourself a writer
>your participation in the ZWG assures your "early fans" the revelry of witnessing your blossoming brilliance

>>498750
I'm sorry you feel that this is rather pretentious. As one of the editors, I would like to express that the general feeling behind this project is not one of hubris, but rather a simple community. We want to give all of those amateur writers a place to show their work - nothing else. No delusions of grandeur, no dreams of book deals.

It's simply a collection of works written by random people like you and I. We don't try to pretend otherwise.

>>498176

>Good tier
>Ant on a Hill

Are you kidding me? Terribly written dialogue, forced metafiction, and overly pretentious description. Blech.

The Long Goodnight > The Gift, imho

Loved the wordplay even though it starts to lose it towards the end.

The Long Goodnight.

Forced punchlines en masse.
I feel like a hipster after reading it, its so full of farts.

>>498812
>>498824
this was like a harsh paul auster parody.

okay... I don't get The Gift at all. What the hell is going in this story?

>>498831

Somebody is killing people that the kid doesn't like.

>>498176
I'm Commander Rightfag, and I approve of this post.

>>497515
>discussion and posting comments about the zine in a zine thread is not 'bumping'

HUURRRRRRR DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

wow, the review section at the end...

... this should be sufficient evidence to put every tripfag against the closest wall and put a bullet through its head.

>>498872
we can always spam every ZWG until it autosages

>/lit/ became part of 4chan.

who the hell wrote this?

>1. We will soon find out that our friend Josef K. Is a published author, who we will all
then rush out to buy, or

>2. He is GamerGirl.

MINDFUCK

>>498913implying Josef K. schtick isn't stories with twists that shawks u

>>498928
butthurt over nobody mentioning your story

I'm the fellow who wrote Buster Story and if anyone is interested in reading anything else that I've written you can download my second book of poetry here: http://www.mediafire.com/?tminzgyyzmm

>>498970
writerwhore

>>498952implying I wrote a story for ZWG to advertise incessantly on /lit/

>>498980
writerwhore

I feel like the poetry section in ZWG always gets sideline/ignored.

And before you call writerwhore, I'll flat out admit that I wrote 'Venus' and am anxious to hear feedback.

>>498970
>My dad took us into the hills
>Where Native’s clashed with soldiers and settlers
>And wept for a dying people

>Where Native's clashed with soldiers and settlers
>Where Native's clashed
>Native's

>>499040

quality grammer

>>498970
I'd be tempted to ignore that, but your trip is Gaahl.

>>499029
still writerwhore

>>499040
Well, fuck. Missed that one, too. Goddammit.

I did most of my preliminary editing of content before compilation into the release, and I didn't (against my better judgment) proofread the entire document prior to release. I apologize for that, and I'll make sure those don't happen in the future.

>>499065
That wasn't in the issue, it was from my own personal collection that I posted for the sake of attention whor-I mean for the sake of interested parties

>>499070
Buster Story was pretty good. There were a few tense issues, but overall, not bad.

What was your inspiration to write it?

>>499070
Oh god, now I can stop using my tears as ink.

>>499076
A friend of mine was homeless for a while until he got a job being a bouncer in a really trashy dive bar. Most of it comes from him. Other parts comes from my own experience driving a taxi during the shift that picked up all the drunks

>>499085
No one said you had to stop. We enjoy your sweet, sweet tears.

>>499092

>slowly unzips pants...

Batman is turning into quite the meme lately.

>>499088
That's cool, it's good to see stories with a basis in reality, especially mournful ones such as yours.

oh shit

in The Pencil, after he disappears, the pencil falls and hits the floor a 3rd time

i didn't even get that until now :O

Is this in autosage? Bumping if not.

Hey /lit/, Jeremy (Alecto/Second Sunset) here.

Alecto doesn't seem to be getting anything like as good a response as Second Sunset (or much response at all) - was it shit, or just less interesting, or is it just not the SF crowd on today?

>>499367

I honestly read the first line of Alecto and laughed at it's cheesiness. Granted I didn't read the whole thing (only skimmed), but it just seemed like standard sci-fi splosionsinspace wank material.

This thread should be archived.

4chanarchive.org

>>496437
the collector was way better than A Dark Day.

A Dark Day was far too verbose and somewhat cliched.

Both were good, but I much prefered the collector. Sad I missed the shitstorm. sounds like TSATF could have used the backup.

If you're reading this, sound and fury, please keep writing, your's was an interesting and somewhat unique point of view.

ps:
excuse the abyssmal spelling errors, am really drunk,

>>499382
Apart from the "space" I fear you're right.

>>499392

For what it's worth, it was well-written. I'd say you just need to focus on content now that you have the whole 'write without a metric fuckton of spelling/syntax/grammar/implosibility mistakes' thing mastered.

>>499367
I didn't think Alecto was anything like as good as Second Sunset but when I actually tried to compare them I couldn't think of a good reason why. "Ricardo Rodriguez" (what a name) is an emotionless vessel of a character but he's a fuck of a lot more developed than Darte, the world-building is just as sparse and just as good, and the descriptive language is no less excellent, plus there's dialogue and actual action. It's a lot more in your face, and where SS was setup and reflection that never led to anything Alecto was just shit getting blown up. Neither had any plot, which made SS good but kinda killed Alecto for me... it just doesn't have the same poignance.

I'm inclined to agree with the reviewer guy who said SS felt like part of a space opera, and extend the same point to Alecto. This would be ace as part of a bigger story but on its own is just an action scene, and there's no shortage of action scenes out there.

>>499382
I didn't see anything wrong with the first line. Story was pretty generic as you say but still really well written.

>>499407
Thanks. My next piece is aiming to have an actual plot, which the first two have kind of failed at. Hope that gets more love. (Well, hope it *deserves* more love.)

>>499415
Alecto actually was written as part of a larger (unfinished) story, unlike Second Sunset which is very much intended stand alone. Guess it shows a bit too much. Thanks very much for the crit, if you have more you should send it in to the zine (they're in serious need of reviewers!)

>>499424

It just seemed like a standard, dollar-novel opening line like a shitty Dan Brown book. Opening lines should, for lack of a better cliche, 'hook the reader' into the story and not just be exposition. The opening sets the tone for at least the first page, possibly more - intoducing a character in such standard fashion with over-emphasis on the tech setting left a bad taste in my mouth.

Then again, pic is definitely related.

>>499438
>they're in serious need of reviewers!
you're fucking telling me

the second SS review was good but the other guy's were unreadable shite

>Wouldn’tcha know it? Stacey Benson, head cheerleader, president of the S.A.C.K. (Simple
Acts of Care and Kindness) club, and currently the only student with a passing grade in
Señor Langston’s Spanish class is secretly a vampire!

C'mon /lit/.

>>499443
Sounds more like you had overly high expectations than like the story was actually bad. The opening struck me as "standard", not very original but not shit at at all.

In my opinion Alecto was good, not great but good, and if you demand constant originality from everything you read you're not going to enjoy much of life.

>>499443
Definitely something to think about for my next piece. Thank you anon.

>>499438
>>499444

I'd rather edit than review, though I have professional experience with both. Then again, I did submit work that's in issue 2 - I guess I prefer to stick to the creative as opposed to editorial side.

>>499471
You're not >>499415. I know because I'm >>499415.

>>499460
Not everything is original, so you can't expect everything to be so. It's the storytelling and the style that should be the hook. How a story is told can save a story, even if the idea itself has already been presented.

I want to write you guys an ongoing romance story. Possibly with Sci-fi undertones but I don't know if I would be able to keep up with it, or if it would appeal to you wonderful anons.

>>499488
Everything is welcome, as well as ongoing works.

>>499476

Shit, my bad - I accidently spliced the two replies together.

Pic is me, I guess.

Compared to "Revolution", "Memories..." has a TERRIBLE opening lol

>>499498
Man maybe I'll submit it as something that could be considered stand alone and if anon doesn't hate my writing I'll continue it.

Thanks for this opportunity by the way, guys. There's nothing quite like a good community project.

>>499500
Not that I'm saying "fuck off you have no place to say anything". What did you submit?

>>499529
We absolutely encourage you to send your work in!

We reject nothing that looks like real writing, and the worst that will happen is some anonymous on /lit/ will make fun of it. Besides, it can't hurt to try, right?

You can't win the battle you don't fight.

>>499488
I have to say, ZWG has really encouraged me to start writing properly again. Instant feedback from strangers is awesome even when it's negative. Especially when it's negative.

Oh, look, a thread that didn't need to be reposted as /lit/ lost interest in yesterday's thread (not that that will stop the tripfags claiming otherwise.)

Yay, for The Monthly Circlejerk.

Impressions...

[*]Holy shit Josef K is a god.
[*]Blam! was enjoyable.
[*]Litchfield was meh.
[*]Didn't care much for Lord Creature.
[*]The Pencil was decent, but it didn't live up to my expectations.
[*]I absolutely loved the wordplay in The Long Goodnight.
[*]Buster Story was a touching slice of a sad life.
[*]Cool story, bro.
[*]Last Stop, Mr. Andrew's was pretty decent as well.

Have yet to read the rest of the stories.
The poetry, excepting a few gems(The Compass, Just Don't Ever Become A Writer) was meh.

>>499552
>yesterday's thread
This is yesterday's thread.

>>499551
Easy for you to say bro, reception for your first story was like Pattinson stepping out of his limo at a Twilight convention.

Sure it stood out because most of the rest of issue 1 was shit, but we can't all write that well.

>>499552
ORIGINAL CONTENT IN 4CHAN, OH NO.

This isn't an annoying circlejerk if it isn't exclusive. Stop being a negative bitch.

>>499552
This is the same thread...

>>499554
What did you think of Alecto?
>>499561
You'll never know if you don't show.
>>499552
This is yesterday's thread. Hide it, move on to the Rand troll threads.

>>499567
It isn't a circlejerk? Who do you think keeps these threads going? They are the same people who post three or so "pre-release advertisement" threads before anything is actually posted. They are the same people who praise the mediocre work involved CONSTANTLY. They are the same people who will bump a thread forgotten for three hours...TWICE.

Nobody outside your cadre of faggotry is going to praise your zine.

>>499581
>They are the same people who post three or so "pre-release advertisement" threads before anything is actually posted.
Hasn't happened, ZWG didn't get mentioned for a fortnight.
>They are the same people who praise the mediocre work involved CONSTANTLY
Also hasn't happened, there's as much hate as love and some actually useful crit in there too.
>They are the same people who will bump a thread forgotten for three hours...TWICE
So... you're bitching about posting new threads, and also bitching about bumping forgotten threads? I don't know what your point is, and I don't think you do either.

>>498176
Thanks for the feedback, Does anyone else read "Dream"? what was your opinion about it?

>>499581
I'm going to praise them for the old school /tg/ spirit: getting shit done.

>>499581
Not a single one of us posted a pre-release thread for this edition of the zine. This is our first and only thread on the second issue. The first issue was different because we kept asking for feedback and revisions.

As for the work being mediocre, you are welcome to your opinions and I encourage you and any others to express it. I would ask you to provide actual feedback so that the authors of the works in the zine can gain something constructive from it. Simply dismissing their work just makes people tune you out as the standard noise on 4chan.

We will continue to work on this zine and future editions of it as long as the interest is there. Based on what we've seen in this thread, it looks like that interest is real.

>>499561
>reception for your first story was like Pattinson stepping out of his limo at a Twilight convention
I fucking lol'd.

Not that it didn't deserve it, though. Maybe that's why nobody is loving Alecto as hard - it wasn't really BAD, but SS was a fucking hard act to follow.

>>496153
FUCK YEAH!

>>496390
Please don't advertise it to the other boards. I can understand other writing sites, but I would really just love to see it kept a /lit/ thing. That way, the writers can come here and get criticism, and it just seems much more tightly-knit and community-esque.

>>499649
They advertised to /x/ for the first issue and doubled submissions overnight. Speaking as a fa/tg/uy there's immense veins of quality draw/writefaggotry waiting to be tapped which would come out great in this zine. I'd rather e/lit/ist be a nickname rather than fact.

>>499649
I understand the want to keep it /lit/ centric since that is where it's from, but there are talented people all over 4chan and their work could make it better. The editors still have the final say in what is published.

Perhaps a call for drawfags in /ic/?

>>499656
*on /tg/ waiting to be tapped, hurr.

>>499665
They tried. No luck. They did reach out to plus4chan though, and so far, they seem interested.

>>499658
>>499656
>>499649
I think we can all agree that avoiding posting it on /b/ is for the best for everyone involved.

hey man, can I (try to) translate this into spanish?

Cross-board would really help get a broader spread of content. /ic/ has artz, /ck/ has recipes, /tg/ has generally awesome shit and /k/ has war stories.

Stormtrooper Assault was very /tg/.

>>499675

What with the HERESY and Tau pewpew beams

>>499671
Think that more or less goes without saying.

>>499675
This is not a recipe book.
No co/ck/s allowed.

Too many cocks spoil the cunt.

Cool Story.
Was awesome.

>>499688
You've never tried mug brownies, have you.

>>499673
I don't think any of us have an objection. If you do so, would you mind sending us the translated version? We could probably host it on the website, although so far as I know, there hasn't been any demand for other languages.

>>498786
;_'

Incidentally, fellas, this thread is hitting autosage. Do we want another one?

>>497722

... I can live with that.

>>499719
/lit/ is kinda slow right now. The thread will stay up for awhile. I would wait until it 404's and even then, we don't want to beat /lit/ over the head with it.

"Pay no attention to Caesar. Caesar doesn't have the slightest idea what's really going on."

>>499707
of course, I'll send it to you!

2nd issue will be the first

>>499732
BUT if you are interested in keeping the conversation going, head to the irc channel (irc.freenode.com #ZWG). There is a link to a java irc client on the wiki.

>>499675
Why no one thinks of the /co/mrades ;__;?

We even have an editor and a namefag published in the first one...

>>499749
We tried getting /co/'s attention a few times. They didn't respond. Of course they are welcome. We even asked on plus4chan's /coc/ board about it. They seemed interested.

>>499738
Argentinfag here, want help with the translation? I made a couple of works and it tends to end up being too fucking much.

Also, we can give each other feedback as to how to keep the spirit of some sentence or word or something.

>>499758
>>499738
If you guys are going to collaborate, I suggest going to the IRC >>499740
The editors and some writers/readers are in there most of the time.

new thread?