/lit/ - Literature

>>4957357
I went to schools that used plagerism detection software so no

>>4957369

Those don't work very well.

>>4957371
they do anon. here they match the amount of text that is found at another source on the net. lets say you write a paper and submit it to a class on the software the school uses and like 80% of your text can be matched on other papers/texts. If the percentage is too high then someone will look at your paper and see if you stole exact writing and passed it as your own. Its called safeassign where I'm attending classes. Once I submitted my paper it matched 20% of my writing to existing text. Professor said if it exceeds 30% that you get looked into and he usually can tell that it will be a bad paper for quoting so much text.

>>4957357
no, i might have gotten inappropriate help on cs assignments but who doesn't

for essays or writing in general, never. it takes an hour to write a crappy 6 page essay, why would you steal a crappy one from the internet

I am employed by a local university to tutor students in writing and nearly 100% of foreign students plagiarize their essays. There's almost always more than one writer involved in your average Chinese student's essay. You'll have one paragraph making eloquent points with fine diction and vocabulary but the next will seem as if it was subjected to a Google translate meat grinder. A lot of the blacks plagiarize as well.

>>4957357
I firmly believe that writing great stories requires little to no original thought. It's two percent original thinking, ninety-eight percent presentation.

>>4957357
In a short story I wrote, I took inspiration in a sequence from a poem by Robert Frost. There weren't any lifted lines and it was meant as an homage. One of my best readers was able to recognize it.

But I would never, ever plagiarize anything. Way too creative for that and if I did, what's the point? It's like cheating at video games. Defeats the purpose.

>>4957425
how can you quantify that? What are you stuck reading to make you think this is the case? And upon what do you draw the authority to make such an assertion?

>>4957448
All literature is derivative of literature that came before it, sometimes cleverly disguised, sometimes not so much. Often the work draws influence from one novel or body of work, whilst amalgamating influences of other novels or bodies of work in such a way as to give it a sheen of something 'new.' Alternatively, some modern work comes from a conscious effort to be 'original' and by this measure they do the opposite of established conventions, which of course makes them just as derivative.

Nobody requires authority to have a thought or make an assertion. Everyone is just a dude with an opinion, accept or reject it as you will.

>>4957460

woah so deep. break out the guitar so you can play some oasis

>>4957357
>I mean, let's be real, the majority of /lit/ posters are slightly above average suburban faggots who will never, ever, have an original thought, but desperately wish to believe that they might
lmao what the fuck? chill nigga

>>4957475
nerve touched.

>>4957470
>I don't actually have anything to say

>>4957460
That really isn't true. Not even a little bit. I don;t know what you're reading these days.

It could come down to your measure of originality. Example: yes, most novels are broken down into paragraphs, so they are all derivative....

Which is a really stupid and juvenile point. We really need to stop letting you troll us. You probably don't even have a degree, wear clothes you bought at a thrift shop, and drink that green tea piss they like down in South America. Fuck off to your communal farm and asian girlfriend.

But if you consider not what works have in common but what makes them different and fresh, then you will find refreshing and persistent originality.

>>4957482
yea bro i'm really stressed out over you spazzin out before you can even get to your point lol

>>4957488
>h-hey s-stop b-bullying me, d-dude or else i'll BREAK OUT MY GUITAR

>>4957498
Really? Not even a little bit? I mean, disregarding the bland generalisations and baseless character assassination that make up most of that reply, you haven't actually said anything in defence of your point other than: "You're just not reading the right stuff!"

I haven't read anything published in the last twenty-five years that wasn't derivative of something published in the decades preceding it. Oh, they had some unique twists, some interesting characterisation, played with a few literary conventions, but the themes, progression and core idea of the novel remained basically unchanged. If you've got something startling original for me to read then, please, post it, otherwise you'll just have to face up to the facts: Most literature these days is a rehashing of old stuff dressed up in a new, frilly dress.

>>4957551
But you haven't offered up any actual evidence of what constitutes a lack of originality.

Go pick up "Tenth of December" (the collection) by George Saunders. What old stuff in a frilly dress is that?

>>4957357
Only time I've ever plagiarized something (by the current trendy definition of the word) was when I paid a dude I knew to write a final paper for a class I never went to or did readings for. I just didn't care enough about it myself. I still maintain I could have gotten a decent grade if I had put the effort in, but I guess that doesn't really mean anything.