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How long does it take to become a decent writer?

It seems you can turn yourself into a professional artist in a year's time provided you spend the entire year drawing for twelve hours a day. Becoming a writer, however, would take longer. I am under the impression that it would take around ten years and that you definitely cannot bull rush your way through the process. It probably doesn't help that I am not a native speaker.

It seems I have somehow managed to divide my attention 50/50 between writing and drawing. I have to sacrifice one for the other or remain half-assed at both forever. Any other board would likely suggest I simply start doing a hipster webcomic of sorts, which I suppose is an option, but I feel this would keep me trapped between the two disciplines just for the sake of quickly and painlessly producing mediocre content.

>> No.4901183
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>>4901158
>How long does it take to become a decent writer?
It just depends. Depends on a lot of factors.
I couldn't tell you weren't a native English speaker though. Divide you time however you see fit. Say, putting off the art for a while maybe. (Basically what I've done)

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>>4901158
I suppose it depends on what you want to write. Seems you're good enough to be a copywriter for a small company already. You could write articles for small-interest magazines, like "Modern Cropduster" or "Tropical Fish Fancier Quarterly."

I don't know why you'd think it only takes a year of constant practice to become a professional artist and ten times longer to become a professional writer. What exactly are the goals? An illustrator? A novelist? An artist welling works in high-end galleries? The person who writes copy for radio commercials? There's lots of ways someone could become a "professional" artist or writer.

And to suggest one discipline is faster to learn than the other is insulting to both disciplines. Any skill or ability requires a lot of practice to get good at. I know you suggested drawing 12 hours a day, every day for a year, but would you then plateau after that? Or just "finally be good enough to be a professional?" Is that all you want, to be good enough to be hired for a job? Even people who "have natural talent" are just passionate people who have practiced all day for their whole lives. Kids who love drawing every second of every day become adults who are good artists. Passion creates talent and a drive to learn skills. That goes for writing, drawing, baking, acting, athletics...

>> No.4901218

>>4901201
Pretty well this.

Not only is "turning into a pro artist" vague, that could mean all kinds of things, but 12hr/day for a year won't cut it. Most of that time will be 'wasted', in that you will be mindlessly cranking out work of dubious quality; you need quality practice not just quantity.

Much like a writer.

Also those 'progress pics' are notoriously bullshit. Probably from Jan '09 to Dec '10, the biggest leap is in rendering, and as far as a 'pro' standpoint goes this work is "okay".

>> No.4901243

>>4901218
I should have brought this up right away but I am interested in the Ten Thousand Hour Rule. I realize one year probably won't cut it but it is better to make up my mind and focus on one discipline to inch ever closer to mastery.

>>4901201
This is all very crude practical thinking I am doing. I cannot become a writer by just demolishing a keyboard for a year because becoming a writer involves reading as well as writing. Also, general advice seems to be to just write for a couple of hours a day alongside a day job.

Even if I roll into some underrated concept artist job I believe the sheer focus and sense of direction would make me happier than I am now. The only reason to try and mix two disciplines that might as well be polar opposites is to draw a highly personalized comic and put it online. I do not think I live in the right country to be making comics. I also do not think having some brief online fame, if any, would necessarily make me happier. I would rather have a good work ethic and one highly developed skill.

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>>4901243
>but I am interested in the Ten Thousand Hour Rule

Figured as much, this sounds like some 10K hour stuff.

Look, it's just a hyperbole for "a lot of work". If you pound out 10K hours of half-baked studies or shitty prose, you won't magically "level up" and "turn pro". You'll need quality hours, not just quantity. Don't focus on how much time you spend, just work regularly and thoughtfully.

As for your drawing v. writing dilemma, why not both? Seriously. In a world where some chick pushing a 'splatter egg' out of her vagina is avant garde art, why can't you try and combine art with literature?

Become the next William Blake.

>> No.4901271

>>4901257
>become a poet-painter

I... hadn't thought of that.

And yes, people tend to do whatever the hell they want these days and call it art. It seems to be part of the times.

Thank you for your post, anon. I'll try to stop obsessing over the 10K rule. Maybe even start thinking about a graphic novel again.

>> No.4901272

>>4901158
That's not how it works man. Look at Blake. You could be a comic artist.

I know it sounds cliche but- don't box yourself in. Follow whichever thing you like best, and if you like both equally, follow both.