/lit/ - Literature

>Hit the proletariate with a stick, call it the people's stick
>They'll love it

Shut up marx

>>4868247

no

>'people secretly want to be ruled'

Bad news: every single child psychologist agrees that kids should be given boundries, rules, bedtimes, etc because it gives them direction, makes them less likely to act out in agressive ways, and because they secretly want it.

So bad news if you're looking for sources that say the opposite.

>>4868243
"Tenets" you fucking moron.

>>4868270
Here you have it, OP. Authoritarian folks have a general distrust for people, so they take the parenting and policing role too far.

>>4868243
>as well as other very cheap and misleading arguments
Explain how these arguments are cheap and misleading.

>>4868270
So if I'm following your argument correctly you state:
1. Children need to have boundaries according to child psychologists
Therefore
2. People secretly want to be ruled
Therefore
3. Fascism is OK

as a starting point:
origins of totalitarianism by arendt
and
enemies of open society by popper

there's also an unfinished treatise about ethics by kropotkin, where he correctly identified and critically discussed the main philosophical currents and influences which would later become fascist ideology.
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-ethics-origin-and-development

The Anatomy of Fascism - Robert Paxton
The Third Reich Trilogy - Chris Evans
The Mass Psychology of Fascism - Wilhelm Reich
Behemoth - Franz Neumann
The Authoritarians - Robert Altemeyer

Feel free to add suggestions.

Foucault maybe
Especially his bit in Anti-Oedipus

>>4868493
>>The Mass Psychology of Fascism - Wilhelm Reich
Doctrine of Fascism - Mussolini

>Communism is better than fascism! In comparison there's nothing wrong with communism!

Just as planned

>>4868247
>Shut up Lenin
Fixed.

>>4868270

Well shit. Children also haven't gone through puberty - therefore, nobody has. Or at least, so I suppose based on your reasoning.

>>4868270
>given boundries, rules, bedtimes, etc because it gives them direction
They need rules, but that doesn't necessarily forbid that they make their own rules.

>>4868243
>tenants

>tfw every single fucking iota of what people tend to do, or have historically done, in the absence of an authoritarian state and dominant aristocratic culture, is brutal horrific depressing shit
>tfw statism and authoritarianism are scientifically verified

>>4870844
I'd be down for an aristocratic culture if I get to be one of the aristocrats.

>>4868270
>and because they secretly want it

you can't measure that you fucking moron, if you're going to cite the work of scientists don't pretend you have an inner view into the private events within people which are currently unquantifiable

also, define "direction" you listless cunt

Reading about the Nazis convinced me that fascism is just a big lark. Basically, psychopaths who are fans of drama bully their way to power in an impressive display of military regalia and extremely good looking symbols. Then they create the ultimate drama. They can`t help but also indulge their psychopath tendencies, so there are also monstrous crimes against of humanity going on backstage. Then the drama ends and the dull minded, sane people are left awestruck by the craziness of it all. Later they naively condemn everything that went on.

>>4870848
Of course you would. Everybody would. The problem is that not everybody gets to be an aristocrat and most people are forced be serfs. Don't worry, a few nice speeches and a neat flag will make you feel better about it. And the uniforms on the secret police will be so snazzy~

>>4868270
Every single child psychologist agrees that children and adults are different enough to make his profession necessary.

>>4870844
what are you referring to?
and what possible culture could you be thinking of without such things?

>>4870800
just correct the man, no need to be a condescending butt-flap (e.g. a butthole so loose, the skin therefrom sags causing it to flap over the hole)

>tenet

>>4870919
I'd agree with this. Psychopaths ruling psychopaths. Psychopathy definitely leads to a confusing outlook on life, or it permits you to go hog-wild without any emotional connection to the obvious repercussions. The former end up ruling the latter; the hallucinating leading the blind.

>>4868243
Any libertarian socialist author ever, I guess.

>>4868243
>tenants
gtfo an never come back

>>4870844
Your first sentence doesn't lead into your second one. Also [citation needed]

http://www.marxists.org/archive/korsch/1932/theses-fascist-state.htm

>Fascism unites in Pareto's sense a sober illusion-free, rational goal-directed state practice (carried out by the "elite") with a completely irrational state mythology (represented by the state's people, the race, and the mass).

>>4869211
I can't tell if you're trolling or actually think you just made a real argument here

>>4868243
>that picture
>lel

pot calling the kettle black.