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4842124 No.4842124[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is military fiction with an anti-war message hypocritical for relying on conflict to keep a reader hooked?

>> No.4842130

>>4842124
no

you cant assume conflict keeps readers 'hooked.' i wasn't 'hooked' by conflict in catch-22 or slaughterhouse 5. those books are a bit more deep than tom clancy for example

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4842854

>>4842124
Yang was always the first person to admit he was a hypocrite to be fair

>> No.4842874

>>4842130
Slaughterhouse 5 is about as deep as a kiddie pool
>War's bad, fuck capitalism and America
>Now pay me to tell you about the war and life as an upper-class American

>> No.4842881

>>4842874

yeah man you really showed him!

>> No.4842886

>>4842881
I like that every Vonnegut fan is a sarcastic faggot who gets butthurt over people not liking him. You're like little robots who always follow the same algorithm.

>> No.4842901

Why would it be?
Using something as fictional entertainment is entirely different from endorsing it actually happening in real life.

>> No.4842905

The Eye of the Heron neatly avoids that problem, imo.

>> No.4842936

>>4842886

quit being a faggot dude no one cares about your shitty opinion

>> No.4843405

>>4842124
When done well I find it works better because it is being hypocritical.
>Wars bad.
Yeah, wars suck!
>war and interesting conflict
Yay, exciting boom boom guns!
>You're a cunt, feel ashamed
I am a cunt

Spec Ops: The Line was really good at this

>> No.4843434

>>4842130
Catch-22 was fantastic

>> No.4843463

>>4842936
>Every Vonnegut fan ever trying to scoop their prolapsed colon back into themselves after a real pomo fan mildly criticizes him