/lit/ - Literature

zizek
read him

hrw.org is a good resource.
http://www.leninology.com/ is a good blog.

>>4833675
>HRW.org

Basically an front group for the US state department.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/14/the-bias-of-human-rights-watch/

>>4833656
Check the catalogue >>4832480 on Manifesto and >>4833435 on the L&W MECW scandal are up and active.

>What is a good left-wing forum to go on?
GET A JOB. JOIN THE UNION.

>Preferably anti-Israel and not "is ___ bourgeois?" "check your White privilege CIS scum!"
This kind of ideological posturing away from praxis is precisely how identity politics took hold amongst bourgeois liberals. The SWP is no better, endlessly and mindlessly parroting left bolsheviks.

>>4833673
>zizek
>read him
OP would need a dense understanding of structuralism and Stalinism to get benefit from Zizek.

>picture[1].jpg
Oh cute, it is Comrade X.

>>4833691
meh.
don't make the amateur mistake of parroting every article you read. hrw's a great resource, but no resource should be regarded as complete. criticisms of omission don't bother me much.

>>4833695
>OP would need a dense understanding of structuralism and Stalinism to get benefit from Zizek.

I am already well read in the stuff he references, I will pick up some of his books soon.

>>4833695
>Oh cute, it is Comrade X.

I don't see what is wrong with copying and pasting a picture, I don't have a load of Left-Wing pictures in my computer.

I have just been trying to get into Left-Wing politics lately, it has been resonating with me.

>>4833714
>I will pick up some of his books soon.

Stick with the early stuff and then drop him for good.

>>4833714
>I don't see what is wrong with copying and pasting a picture, I don't have a load of Left-Wing pictures in my computer.
Its just weird seeing a comrade I know.

There is no good left-wing forum.

>>4833733
GET A JOB. JOIN THE UNION.

>>4833718
>Stick with the early stuff and then drop him for good.

Should I start with The Sublime Object of Ideology?

What is wrong with his modern stuff?

Also I saw a guide to Left-Wing literature here on /lit/ once, I would love to have that if anyone has it.

>>4833733
There is no good forum

>>4833741
I have a job. Unions, today, in the U.S., are crap.

>>4833746

There is no good.

#woah

>>4833752
>Implying

>>4833749
>I have a job. Unions, today, in the U.S., are crap.
Learn to take shit and spin gold. The IWW and numerous historical R&F movements have. Rumplestiltskin doesn't come for those crying in the SWP.

dribble general huh

>>4833755

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

>>4833768
>Heresy

>>4833749
How many books have you had published?

>>4833776
>>Heresy

I was merely joking.

>left
>isnt "check your White privilege CIS scum!"
you must be mistaken to what left is

>>4833781
And let's keep it that way.

>>4833755
My nigga.

If anyone's interested and since this seems appropriate for the topic at hand, Terry Eagleton is a Marxist Catholic. I haven't read any of his longer works, but some of his essays and reviews are nice.

>>4833656
ya do realize that the most successful application of left-wing ideology was in israel, right OP? the kibbutz movement and zionism itself is rooted in socialist thought

IS THERE ANY LEFTIST LITERATURE THAT IS BASED ON BEING BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE NOT JUST POOR LOSERS AND MORE THAN JUST OPPRESSION AND EXPLOITATION

>>4833813
>ya do realize that the most successful application of left-wing ideology was in israel, right OP?

Genocide of Palestinians?

Apartheid state?

This makes me not want to join the Left-Wing.

>>4833826
fuck off anti-semite

>>>/pol/

>>4833813
ya do realize that the most successful application of left-wing ideology was in australia, right OP? the award system and laborism itself is rooted in socialist thought

Genocide of Aboriginals?

White Australia?

This makes me think that people's definition of the Left-Wing is not rooted in the abolition of wage labour and the exploitation of man by man, but rather some normative construct of "nicer capitalism" as if exploitation of man by man can be made 'nice'.

>>4833826
Vae Victis,nigga

>>4833826
Are you leftist just out of hate of Israel?
Grow up

>>4833833
>>4833839
>>4833843

I am racist just because I won't allow the genocide of Palestinians?

Hey, maybe this whole left-wing thing isn't meant for me.

>>4833853
>Genocide
much over exaggeration

>>4833843
>>4833839
>>4833833

>>4833867

>much over exaggeration

>>4833868
Wow,so brave.
Are you using anything made by Intel?

>>4833871
Not seeing the genocide.

>>4833873
>Are you using anything made by Intel?

No.

Are you using technology created by non-Jewish people?

Chinese people infact?

Goyim?

>>4833876
>Are you using technology created by non-Jewish people?
Yes?
Why should I care about that?

>>4833875
>Not seeing the genocide.

>>4833821
Why should we care to benefit those who don't care to benefit us?

>>4833878
>Why should I care about that?

My point has been made, why should Intel be significant?

>>4833883

I hate Evolakid but I am curious, who is "us"?

>>4833853
Most left-wingers are anti-zionist. Israel is normally used by right-wingers to disorganise the left though. The only way to avoid this shit is to defend a zero state solution.

>>4833887
>why should Intel be significant?
I thought that you wanted to boycott Israel.

>>4833891
>to defend a zero state solution.

Explain?

I assumed most Left-Wingers (although I don't believe in left vs right, just using the stereotype) support Israel and are against "anti-Semetism".

>>4833892

You can't clamp down on specific political organizations like that.

You know exactly what boycott Israel means.

>>4833896
>I assumed most Left-Wingers (although I don't believe in left vs right, just using the stereotype) support Israel and are against "anti-Semetism".
Did you get your "Knowledge" about politics from /pol/?

Talking about left-wing literature without specifying a school or theme is really pretty pointless. There's so much stuff out there.

Just taking a particular author or book out of the blue sounds even random. Like here, read this book about anarchist movements in revolutionary China or this Marxist analysis of the Seven Years' War.

>>4833887
>I am curious, who is "us"?
Those who do not extract income from ownership.

>>4833902
>Did you get your "Knowledge" about politics from /pol/?

Are you seriously going to use false assumptions for this?

How pathetic.

you forgot this part

>just using the stereotype

>>4833909
>>just using the stereotype
Nigger,are you kidding me?
Protesting the "horrible apartheid" in Israel is one of the most popular things among the left.

>What is a good left-wing forum to go on?

There isn't one. You can't go anywhere that says "left" without stumbling on maoist kids and their edgy views about how we NEED violence to achieve this and that.

No forum, community, party or movement composed of left-wingers will ever be decent until all the leninists die.

>>4833902
Not him, but every person who identifies as left wing I've spoken to does support Israel and is against anti-semitism. Please stop bringing up /pol/, it's not very helpful.

>>4833912
I can vouch for that

Dude spoke about leftists being pro-Israel: kek just kek

>>4833896
>>to defend a zero state solution.
>Explain?

The abolition of capital and the state by the workers of the Levant.

>I assumed most Left-Wingers (although I don't believe in left vs right, just using the stereotype) support Israel and are against "anti-Semetism".

Anti-semitism you mean. Here's a clue: the apartheid Zionist state of Israel isn't the Jewish people.

For someone to be left, they have to desire the dismantling of capitalism. Almost the entirety of the people who wish to dismantle capitalism wish to dismantle the state either immediately, or shortly (by society organising the state out of existence). Both groups of these people tend to revile racism and genocide. Only a very small number of them are actually anti-semitic. Most of them are anti-Zionist.

Buy some fucking newspapers, enough trots parrot shit about Israel for you to be able to discover their line within six months of reading.

>>4833917
>Not him, but every person who identifies as left wing I've spoken to does support Israel and is against anti-semitism. Please stop bringing up /pol/, it's not very helpful.

Thank you.

It's hard discussing this stuff when people scream "anti-semetism!" and "there is nothing wrong with Israel" and after that they say "ALL LEFTISTS ARE AGAINST ISRAEL".

No wonder all Leftist political parties can't get their shit together.

god I bet you're already viciously searching on facebook or twitter for individual examples of leftists who support Israel to make one of those /pol/ montages

>>4833928
Don't give me ideas.

>>4833922
>the apartheid Zionist state of Israel isn't the Jewish people.

Anglo-Saxon domination over the petro-dollar or Khazar/Ashkenazi Jewish domination?

>For someone to be left, they have to desire the dismantling of capitalism

I agree that is should be dismantled.

>Almost the entirety of the people who wish to dismantle capitalism wish to dismantle the state either immediately, or shortly (by society organising the state out of existence).

In the sense of Globalization?

>Both groups of these people tend to revile racism and genocide.

My problem with the past of Marxist states is their idea of the enemy is very broad, the idea of attacking the bourgeois and not major finance families like the Rothschild family is absurd to me.

Also define racism, from my experience they tend to be into identity politics not actually fighting real racism.

>Only a very small number of them are actually anti-semitic. Most of them are anti-Zionist.

Again, define anti-semetic.

>Buy some fucking newspapers, enough trots parrot shit about Israel for you to be able to discover their line within six months of reading.

False assumptions again.