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/lit/, if I wanted to read some fiction about having standards/ a consistent value dealing with relationships, the tension and loneliness that comes with not meeting people like that, and the internal debate about lowering one's standards because the standards may be "idealistic", should I read Steppenwolf and Notes from the Underground?

>> No.4826331

Start with the Greeks

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>>4826331
Anything more specific than that?

>> No.4826408

>>4826326
>lowering one's standards
find someone you love, thats the one and only standard there is for a serious relationship (not that I don't respect the idea of friends with benefits etc., it's just not my cup of tea)
and don't forget that you have time, you don't need to find someone tomorrow, life is enjoyable alone too

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>>4826408
I dont mean to make this a blog, but I guess I wasnt discreet enough. What you said seems true, but I also mean this in the way of making and having friends, girls or boys. Also, waiting all the damn time and feeling disappointed/betrayed all the damn time can be a bit much

Either way though, you understand the topic im bringing up. Any lit you would recommend? What about the two I mentioned in the OP?

>> No.4826451

>>4826423
don't have recs for you in that regard, sorry
I read Steppenwolf a long time ago, tho, was a good read but I'll reread it soon

yea I spent the last few months mainly with listening to a shitton of /mu/sic and some reading, not having the urge to go out and find new friends and stuff
I'd really like to know more people with similar interests tho, I'm just too lazy to search atm, so I can't really help you in that regard
(I live in a huge student residental tho, so it shouldn't be too hard for me)

>> No.4826462

>>4826451
gonna add that I'm happy on my own though, I guess I'm the kind of person that finds more joy in occupying myself with music or literature (or wasting time on the internet ;) than in spending time "socially" with people I don't care about (I despise smalltalk and stuff like that, I want actual conversations about stuff that interests me)

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Any book recs?

>> No.4826560

You can't really measure relationships like that, romantic or friendships. They're more like seeds, in the beginning you throw them into dirt with some water and in blind faith you hope they turn into something.

Some will turn into something useful others will turn into grass never to be anything more.

You gotta stick with them and see what'll come of it

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>>4826560
Out of quite a lot of people that I've tried to become friends with, only two ever really became my friends.

Thats a pretty shitty garden and I think im pretty justified in the disappointment.

Still though, book recs

>> No.4826572

>>4826568
Two people is good man, you don't need people hanging off you. Those are just people you say hi to a bar, friends are there to help if you need something

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>>4826572
One lives in New York while I am in LA, and very soon will become a farmer in Louisiana, which means I probably very seldom will see him.

The other will be moving to SF soon for college, which means the same.

Shit sucks son.

>> No.4826703

>>4826668

A farmer in Louisiana? A FARMER?

HERE, HAVE A AN ACRE

>> No.4826727

I would be friends with you if you weren't a fucking weeaboo OP.

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>>4826703
Yeah, Columbia got to him I guess.

>>4826727
Im not, its just aesthetically pleasing to me, and fits the theme of 4chan.

Seriously though, guys, book recs? Fiction or non-fiction even. Just anything relating to having a value system (specifically about how and why you value friends), the negative consequences of having a "picky", "high-standard", or "idealistic" value system, and the confusion that follows from it when you internally debate if you only have these values for the wrong reasons, and that you may be better off having a more lenient value system.

I guess, dealing with the virtue of adaptability, and its vices, conformity and inflexibility.

>> No.4827058

Sounds like almost everything by Yukio Mishima

>> No.4827114

>>4826772
>I'm not a weeaboo, I just like weeaboo things