/lit/ - Literature

Kill people like Evolakid

try again

http://www.reddit.com/r/fifthinternational

you dribble all the way there

Lobotomize everybody
Or, "embrace transhumanism", as them crazy kids are saying nowadays.

>>4816222
he meant communism specifically, not just any decent society

>>4816231
Don't forget to piss of all your opponents.

wait until computational power of state capitalism beats normal markets

or:

invent a better feedback system than individual buying decisions via money

>>4816246
that's what all these hot pockets are for.

via the internet

>>4816252
Impossible, because of the information problem.

Islam => Islamic socialism => socialism

>>4816212
>how do we establish communism

Implement cultural marxism

>>4816280
Nice try, Mohammed

We start with The Greeks

We don't. Capitalism makes more sense.

>>4816285
In all seriousness though, I don't think cooperating with religious sects to establish a form of social leftism should be left off of the table. Most small churches are systems of mutual aid with lots of baggage.

>>4816285
You mean Muammar

>>4816286
pretty sure the greeks would all be fascists, m8

By ignoring human nature

Robots and artificial intelligence are the answer. It's the only way to avoid any abuse of the system. The government has to be completely computer-run and self-sufficient.

But why the hell would you want to live in a communist society, anyway?

Communism doesn't get "established", it emerges on its own.

>>4816301
It's the baggage that comes along with it, like dogma, or the notion that everyone who disagrees with you is going to hell, which isn't a healthy starting point.

>>4816339
Communism doesn't emerge.

>>4816212
Well, assuming you're not from /pol/ and you actually know shit about socialism, we'd need to start off by abolishing the federal government. Socialism calls for no government at all.

>mfw you hear rednecks calling Obama a "socialist" while, at the same time, complaining about him expanding the fed government
top kek

>>4816379
The emergence of communist governments in history would seem to directly counter you.

>>4816492
>The emergence of communist governments in history would seem to directly counter you.

because those were successful

>>4816496
They emerged.

>babies with diseases aren't "born" because they don't live successful lives after being born.

>>4816500
>They emerged.
no they were established by jews

>>4816487
>Socialism calls for no government at all.
Socialism =/= anarchism

>>4816212
Can somebody tell me what the fuck does this have to do with literature?

>>4816507
How does any government "emerge" without being established at some point?

>>4816508
Obviously not, but if you've actually read any of Marx's works, you'll see that it (eventually) evolves the abolition of a government and the power resides, mutually, within the community.

/pol/, pls read before shitposting.

>>4816507
Please be trolling.

>>4816522
fixed

>>4816526
No, he really is that stupid.

He'll respond to this post by calling me buttmad, or pointing out a fallacy that isn't there.

>>4816522
What is social-democracy?

>>4816536
What is anarchism?

>>4816542
And then he'll keep being a scientismic sack while calling himself "Evola"

>>4816550
>what is social-democracy
Slower REVOLUCION

>>4816512
this is the de facto board for leftist "thought" because they get laughed at anywhere else

>>4816550
>What is anarchism?

>>4816542
>he
Oh, so Evola's a dude? I always assumed he was a wimmin probably because Evola sounds kind of feminine and because he seems to be the outcast here.

>>4816562
>Evola sounds kind of feminine.
Pls don't tell that to our dear baron.

>>4816507
>no they were established by jews

EvolaKid, if you actually read Julius Evola you would know that the National Socialist party was wrong.

Infact, you are just another Neo-Nazi pretending to be a Radical Traditionalist even though you don't even read.

Regards, Radical Traditionalist who is tired of your shit

As for OP's question:

Kronstadt

We already have communism - just look at America...

...heuheuheu.

>>4816671
>>>/unqualified-reservations/

>>4816281
>left environmentalism
>Al Gore

hahahahahahahahaha


I'm writing a paper on the different ecological ideologies, Eco-Socialism etc, and the idea that Al Gore represents anything to do with left environmentalism is preposterous

>>4816280
I was reading something the other day about how Islam is seen by some as fundamentally incompatible with capitalism, with the charging of interest from banks etc. There was a French woman who wrote a book on it but I don't think it's been translated into English yet

>>4816281

>left environmentalism is really Marxist socialism
>implying "waiting for the revolution" is a Marxist concept
>implying Marx was an economic determinist
>Lenin was a failure
>Implying the Marxist critique of wealth is that it's intrinsically bad

This flowchart is so horribly poor, it was certainly created by a /pol/tard.

>>4816814
So was Christianity but they changed their opinion about charging interest.

>>4816824
In practice Islam has a series of loopholes as well.

1.Kill all rich
2.??????????? (magic happens here)
3.Communism

>>4816281
>still referring to cultural marxism when the gap between the wealthy and the poor is larger than ever in history

>>4816855
Well you also have to kill all who seek power, to prevent Napoleon
That means killing all men, heterosexuals, homosexuals, whites, blacks, chinese, Russians, Arabs, native Americans, bad people, good people, morally ambiguous people, bisexuals, transexuals, transgendered people, furries, my little pony autists, and women.

THEN we can have communism.

>>4816859
>stilling calling it Catholicism when the Pope hasn't even mandated Utopia

>>4816305
Ancient Greek fascism would be much more tolerable than something Hitler's fascism. People like to frown upon Hitler's fascism, but what they really dislike is how systematic and technological his regime was.

Another thing technology has ruined: fascism.

>>4816873
Those are all of my beliefs balled up into one meaningless post, m8. Cheers.
But also Hitler's zealotry was fucked, too. Not that I fully disagree with it, but when you have Jews saying they'll give up their Jewishness to be German, some of them may be telling the truth, man.

>>4816859
>>still referring to cultural marxism when the gap between the wealthy and the poor is larger than ever in history

thats why its cultural marxism not economic marxism

>>4816865
>implying the Church doesn't believe even it will be disestablished once the Kingdom of God arrives

>>4816496
Genuine question here, if someone was to compile a similar list with the amount of people killed in capitalist wars/ starved to death during capitalist famines/ starved to death due to the inefficiency of the capitalist system in distributing resources etc etc etc- Would you see this as capitalism as a system and an ideology being discredited?

>>4819133
No, it only counts when bad thing happen if they happen under a regime that is nominally non-Capitalist.

>>4816212
vote left

>>4816212
By proletarian dictatorship, obviously.

>>4819140
>>4819133
I'm not even a proper leftist or anything, but yeah it always seems pretty ridiculous when right wing people talk about a "body count" as a way of discrediting it. It's as if they don't know their own system/ ideology's history in terms of war/ starvation etc

>>4816233
i wish transhumans would embrace comrades

>wanting command economies