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after modernism

>>4804651
/thread

I think the closest I've come to finding out what postmodernism consists of is the notion that "there is something that is unpresentable, or unexplorable".

I can't believe this thread again.....again? again? This thread.....again?

>>4804672
Where is it you think you are?

Vague, illogical bullshit that present its argument in any clear terms - strongly indicating that it has none to begin with, and relies on obfuscation to hide this fact.

>>4804677

>>4804686
I feel you. Look, I've been coming to /lit/ for years and years, and been on 4chan for many years before that. There will always be postmodernism threads. There will always be eReader threads. There will always be bookshelf threads. Ayn Rand and Twilight will always be the ultimate evil.

This same thing happens on all boards. That's why I posted Sakurafish-- because you actually DO reach a point where you like it. These lowest-common-denominator threads that get posted and reposted day after day, week after week? They're the background tapestry of the board. They're the hissing carrier wave. They're the blank, empty canvass upon which the GOOD content can stand out with higher relief.

They serve the good content; they are a slave to it. Don't be mad at OP, look down and smile at her!

>>4804712
OP here

if you answer the question i'll delete the thread

but you won't

because you can't

>>4804712
OK, I get the carrier wave part, that spoke to me. I understand. This is the landscape we frolic on, the dumb dirt we sink our foundations of genius into.
Is it postmodern to always have a postmodern thread? How can we make it the most postmodern thread about postmodernism that ever was, the mostpostmodernest.
Also thanks. And I'm only mildly memefluent.

>>4804650
it acknowledges the medium

it recognizes itself as a futher abstraction from reality

>>4804749
what does that even mean

recognises what medium

>>4804650
>What is Postmodernism?
promoting ugliness and calling it art

>>4804741
Maybe if we sticky the postmodern thread, people will stop to ask.

>>4804854
Let the optimism flow through you.

>>4804854
Wouldn't work. They'd still post the threads anyway. And then, if you deleted those threads and banned the poster? Well, then you're exerting too much influence on content, which is a board-killer.

Trust me: The answer is just to view the ThisThreadAgain threads as background noise. I hardly see them anymore, and the only thing that caught my eye in this one was Anon Memefluent up there.

Where can I find the ebook George Martin wrote about the postmodern philosophy of David Foster Wallace?

>>4804650
no cause it's just a catch-all term for academics to describe certain philosophical/artistic/literary developments that arose in the wake of modernism.

>>4804761
what board are you on? /lit/?

maybe assume he meant print media, faggot.

What is modernism?

>>4804650

Seeing as no one has really answered your question, here's the best I can do.

It involves a certain style to it, an air of playfulness with the content, as opposed to seriousness, being more free form than form. It attempts to deny the process by which people engage in meta narratives by looking for a concise and all encompassing belief to apply to life. For instance, a meta narrative might be to consider that the smart will inherit the earth through intellectual efforts outlasting brute force. The postmodernist would approach this by telling the story of a below average man who finds himself, inexplicably, in the right place and the right time all the way to the seat of power.

Additionally, there is also the idea of postmodernism having a sub focus on the idea of 'the simulacrum'; the degree to which objects are dissociated from their original subject, being either imitations- like paintings- or direct copies- like anything mass produced.

Postmodernism replicates reality by, in part, showing that the world operates quite fine, in fact, quite often, without clear lines of definition.

This counters modernism, which uses elements to represent a motif. Calling attention to a specific point for a reason. Much of postmodernism operates, seemingly, without reason.

Any questions?

>>4806774
That's like replying "Pikachu" to the question "What are Pokemon".

>>4806795

Start somewhere, man. Start somewhere.

>>4806810
how un-post-modern of you.

>>4806816

That's the difficulty of it all. Trying to define postmodernism immediately results in a modernist view of what postmodernism is. The only way to possibly go about looking at postmodernism is in a skeptical, sidelong way, not directly at it and with an indifferent attitude. Like the guy at the party who's interesting, but you don't want to give him the satisfaction of getting your attention because you also might think he's a douce.

>>4806837
Have you been reading interpersonal self-help books?

Einstein Was ONEist Brain.

Try My Belly-Button Logic.

No God Knows About 4 Days, It Is Evil To Ignore 4 Days,

Does Your Teacher Know ?

>>4804651
It's not at all "after" modernism. It is very much linked to modernism, and postmodernism doesn't rule modernism out.

>>4808416
>postmodernism doesn't rule modernism out

Really? I would say it certainly does.

>>4808430
You're right, I phrased it quite badly. Yes, postmodernism completely disregards almost all standards of modernism.
What I meant was that postmodernity and modernity are closely linked and haven't yet ruled each other out. Arguing that we would be living in postmodernity would be quite wrong.
Sorry about that.

I, too, would like to know the definition of postmodernism. I come into these threads hoping my question will finally be answered and I am always let down.