/lit/ - Literature

>>4794437

I don't get it. Just because people sometimes self-publish bad books, nobody should ever do it? Mind you that many bad books are published by actual publishers.

>part 2

>>4794437
>Time is a linear sort of thing, but it's not smooth or level. Like a meandering river it has peaks and valleys.

rivers do not have peaks or valleys.

>>4794484
That reminds me of an argument I had on here about how snow cannot be winding.

>>4794480
hey spergloard it's a hilarious MAYME get your head outa ur butt for a sec and live a little

>>4794480
>Being new

>time has bubbles
why?
>time has puddles
I don't see where this is going
>like a puddle by the sea

>>4794550
too deep 4 you

>It is in one of these puddles, like a puddle by the sea, that these events transpire.
>It is a single bubble...
>It is a vast and ancient puddle...
>So that within this single, solitary bubble...

Maybe if I just keep writing nonsense someone will think this is deep, right?

>>4794498
>>4794504

Not new. There's often a thread making fun of self-publishing. That's silly.

It's a world in which creative types can bypass stiff contracts and maintain creative control by self-publishing.

This goes for music too. A young musician with a little gear can record an entire album in their bedroom and sell it online. No need to have CDs made, worry about distribution and all that...

Sure, for a book, it's not as nice to be without the hard copy, but it's an easy in for a young author to self-publish.

We should be publishing our stuff to our websites instead of making fun of people who do this.

>>4794579
>creative types can bypass stiff contracts and maintain creative control by self-publishing.

Publishing contracts aren't really that binding, aside from the literal sense. Publishing contracts are more so about maintaining rights and advances.

What do you mean by "maintain creative control?" It's not like publishers wrestle the story out from your hands and change it into a completely different story.

>>4794579
>"I'm not new"
>Being this new

>You have names and persona's from other puddles in this puddle...
>persona's
>'s
>plural

>>4794579
>We should be publishing our stuff to our websites
Nooooooooooooooooo.

>Within the city is a social-economic structure that is both Victorian and modern, nobility and clever indoor plumbing.
>Dragons that appeared human, but with a thought could assume their original form.
>Vampires, some retaining the attributes form other bubbles and places, some forming new, to adapt to this new bubble. All valid, all possible.

I'm out.

>Scythe Arkenlight

>>4794596

Well, it seems like they could force an editor on you, or make production/packaging/branding choices that you don't necessarily agree with.

>>4794602

Good Insult Bro I Did Not Expect That

>>4794616

Why not?

>>4794685
>>4794715

Visual authority arguments with tints of emotional appeals. Epitome of Neo demagogy. Not bad.

>>4794721
>it seems like they could force an editor on you

Getting an editor is one of the perks to being published. The editor can make suggestions but they can't really force you to do anything you don't want. Unless you're an idiot and signed a contract that said "we can change your manuscript however you want and you can't do anything about it."

>>4794735
Are you going to pretend like Scythe Arkenlight is a good name for a character?

are you actually going to defend this shit?

are you?

>>4794768

I was just identifying a visual argumentative tactic to provoke an effect. I don't know about Scythe Arkenlight. I like the genealogy of the name though.

>>4794775
It sounds like a Mary Sue name to me.

>>4794735
the problem with the text is that it's an info dump, a very boring, vague info dump. Telling us "the city has a social economic structure that is both Victorian and modern" tells us nothing. Is there a queen? Is it a democracy? Is there an industrial revolution going on? Is there a computer boom? Is it an empire or is it just spying on everyone while doing shady back door military operations?

Oh wait, there's a nobility and indoor plumbing. Who the fuck cares? Unless this story is about a plumber or spends an unusual amount of time in the bathroom this piece of information is useless. This is an author so obsessed with their own world building that they're just mentioning off-handedly that they have toilets, which I doubt matters because I think it's unlikely the author is going to describe Scythe Arkenlight taking a shit on her steampunk toilet.

The vampire bit is useless because we all know what a vampire is. Telling us that there are vampires is just removing a possible element of surprise from the book. And then the author tells us that these are totally new, different vampires. Vampires generally change from book to book, you don't need to tell us that you, the author, have creative freedom to what sort of vampires are going to be in the book, you're the fucking author, it's a given.

All this bullshit packaged in a holier-than-thou voice makes it extra cringe-worthy. I thought that all this was obvious, since I assumed people on /lit/ are generally accustomed to reading books that don't read like they were made by a pretentious nine year old. But if we can't enjoy this shit at face value, I suppose I could explain why it's so bad for the slow-witted.

And here is a picture of a face because this is an image board.

>Considered by many in the area to be one of the most eligible bachelors, Viscout Nickodemus Bedlam II opted to not play the social butterfly this night, but instead to spend the evening at his townhouse reading.

>He was often seen at parties, balls and operas throughout the city. His presence had in fact become an expected sight, but not tonight.

No, something exciting might actually happen if he left his study room and we don't want that.

>four whole pages of bubbles and puddles
>four whole pages of library description
>four whole pages of reading and tower description and walking
>footsteps, footsteps, sighing, walking, looking, footsteps, oh my god.

Nothing is happening. Nothing.

>his nose stuck in a good book
>the pale moonlight
>raised an eyebrow sharply