/lit/ - Literature

is that president taft

>>4784452

Yes

>>4784450

Chesterton? I like his literary criticism a çlot.

What about Lope de Vega? Everyone talks about Cervantes, but not about his rival. Fuenteovejuna is one of the highest peaks of spanish drama.

>>4784450
Edmond Spencer
Sheridan La Fanu

the greats alway go unnoticed

Good place to give a nod to Hilaire Belloc I suppose.

>>4784515

Belloc had a lot of quality work. Kind of ironic that even Belloc is overshadowed by Chesterton when Chesterton is routinely shunned by the modern world.

>>4784450
Ah, yes, good old pic related, good old Mr. 9696967. Old Mr. Triple Nine-Six, as we used to call him in grad school. Underrated and forgotten indeed. I have no idea who that is And I don't think the onus is on me to reverse GIS him.

Why is his slipper airborne?

>>4784450
That's fucking Tennyson bro, he isn't forgotten

>>4784621

Chesterton...He's one of the most recognizable writer's based on appearance alone

sup
his "imaginary conversations" is pretty good

>>4784651
fugg, i meant his grandfather... but it apperas he wrote a lot of travel lit himself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Henry_Savage_Landor

O henry. Been here forever and never see a thread about him

>>4784450
>Chesterton
My fucking nigga, that guy is great. I just found out about him and his works are extremely good. I never really thought about the validity of something like miracles or the argument against them until I read some of his essays. His work isn't particularly rigorous, but it is interesting and worth reading.


>The historic case against miracles is also rather simple. It consists of calling miracles impossible, then saying that no one but a fool believes impossibilities: then declaring that there is no wise evidence on behalf of the miraculous. The whole trick is done by means of leaning alternately on the philosophical and historical objection. If we say miracles are theoretically possible, they say, “Yes, but there is no evidence for them.” When we take all the records of the human race and say, “Here is your evidence,” they say, “But these people were superstitious, they believed in impossible things.”

>GK Chesterton.
>Forgotten.

If their books are still being published, then they haven't been forgotten at all.

>tfw Chesteron's The Man Who Was Thursday made me want to become an anarchist because apparently they have lots of get-togethers and dinners

I'd say Patrick White. He's not strictly forgotten, but he's not as widely appreciated as ought to be.

>>4784723
Good choice. His grifter and western short stories are all but forgotten. When he is remembered it's for either Gift of the Magi or Ransom of Red Chief.

>>4784476
He's always mentioned in Cervantes/Quixote threads, and he's far from forgotten for spanish speaking people.

>>4785509
>Implaying spanish speaking people read

Well, from my point of view he's far from forgotten, as I took a course on spanish golden century, as well as from /lit/'s point of view because people on here actually read. But, as a native spanish speaker, the cultural impact Lope de Vega has on the average Joe is close to cero, while Cervantes is mentioned even in elementary school and everyone knows about that loon who liked to fight inanimated objects. In fact, even bums could tell you this line: En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no puedo acordarme...

>>4784904

People who haven't read him underrate him and people who have read him overrate him.

>>4784462
the man who was thursday
still one of my favourite books, save for the very end.

>>4784888

>liking Daria

Mah nigga

upton sinclair

>>4784450

>Chesterton
>underrated/forgotten/ignored

Top pleb, he's one of the most famous writers of the 20th century. Just because your friends from English Composition I haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's underrated.

>>4784649

One time Chesterton was hanging out with Bernard Shaw (they were good friends). Chesterton says to Shaw, "Goodness Bernard to look at you one would think there was a famine in England."

Bernard replied, "to look at you one would think you caused it".

Stefan Zweig.

>>4786266
dats sum hardcore underground author u got there m7

>>4784450
>im a big faggot and i post a picture of a fat man with no name or anything and expect people to just know everything i know weeee

i am so tired of your bullshit, small board dweller. same thing with /mu/, posting vague pictures of album covers going HEY DID YOU ENJOY THIS

i dont remember

>>4784904
Looks like someone I'd be interested in. What do you recommend?

>>4786280
You have justification to not know who is in OP pic, if your first language is English. Mine isn't.

He wasn't that popular when he first premiered but I am glad he is getting more recognition lately in the past couple years.

>>4785527

>>4785527

To be fair given his prose-style and the fact he's Australian I'm not surprised.

His style is usually referred to as "painterly", though the great critic and poet A.D. Hope called it "illiterate sludge". (I maintain it's painterly sludge and it's why I've liked what I've read of his so far because he forces myself as a reader to slow down and be more contemplative).

When coupled with the endemic cultural cringe that comes with being an insecure English-speaking but low population mere middle-power it basically leads to two things - people avoiding his work because it's Australian and hard to read, and people being a bit reactionary and patriotic with an element of patting themselves on the back.

>>4786822

I've only read three of his novels but Voss and The Vivisector tend to be regarded as his main works. Voss is fantastic and has all the fun of man seeking to be God and metaphysical love-stories and wandering into the desert.

I also enjoyed the Tree of Man a lot even though I have a natural scepticism towards family sagas. Happy Valley just felt incomplete and I think he was secretly glad it went out-of-print.

marco fucking polo

his journals are among the most historically important primary sources ever

Alexander Theroux

I hold "Laura Warholic or, the Sexual Intellectual" to be best 21st century novel.

my grandma passed away last week. she was an avid reader and she'd covered a few of her walls with books, mostly from the 30's and the 40's. when my mother last saw her alive, apparently my grandma had muttered, looking up at her bookshelves, that she really hoped someone would read all those books again.

after she died, i helped to clean the house. honestly, even though i'm fairly literate for our generation, i could only recognise a handful of the authors.

so, all those people i guess.

>>4784476
>>4785509
>>4785522
It is not forgotten. I read El perro del Hortelano in High school.
Replace "I read" with "I saw the movie once"

>>4784450
Chesterton is the best. He lives on through the modern generation reading Dickens- without GKC spearheading his revival it's doubtful he would be a household name today.

I prefer Chesterton to Dickens though. The Man Who Was Thursday, Manalive, and The Napoleon of Notting Hill are three books I can't recommend highly enough.

>>4784450

walter pater

>>4784450
palter water

>>4789591

u jelus of my doubs? git fuk'd bruh, marius the epicurean iz GOAT.

>>4789599
>>4789588

Adolf Hitler

rider haggard
according to archive he got mentioned only a handful of times on /lit/. he seems to have been some kind of superstar in late 19th century, influential on many authors of following generations.

Percy Shelly

He's not obscure, but he's about 99% less popular now than he was alive. I doubt many people here would be able to name one thing he wrote without consulting wikipedia.

>>4789735
oh fuck off. he's one of the most famous english poets of all time. just because he's the one poet you read doesn't make him underrated or forgotten

Graham Greene

>>4784450

Chesterton? Forgotten? I see you're not very familiar with English literature. And no, just because /lit/ doesn't discuss him is he in anyways 'forgotten'.

>>4784450
>tfw updike is about to suffer this fate

>>4789735
Huh? How can you avoid having to read Ozymandias in school?

>>4789792
>went to high school with 3500 other students
>the only books we all read were TKAM, Catcher in the Rye and Gatsby

P.G. Wodehouse. The man was a master of his craft. Nobody could use situational irony like he could, and without comic fail. Really, if you haven't checked him out I implore you to do so, specifically any and everything pertaining to his character Jeeves, the genius valet/butler.

Sinclair Lewis was a pretty big superstar in his day. People heard of Babbit but not too many people read it anymore.

>>4785716
>liking Daria

baah baah

>>4789795
>TKAM
>Gatsby

Okay, seriously, when was it agree upon that these two books would be taught to every American high school student?

>>4789837
especially TKAM... that's a book that only lives on in american high schools. it's not taught in college, it's not really beloved by critics... it's a book that survives by perpetual reassignment by high school teachers.

>>4789837
i was asking myself that the moment i posted, actually. then i remembered the forty pages of antigone we somehow managed to spend a week 'learning about'

there is no actual way to teach literature to teenage americans is my best guess

>>4784480
>Sheridan La Fanu
He won't be forgotten at least thanks to Carmilla. Anyone who's a little interested in Gothic novels or vampire lore should have read it.

>>4789844
TKAM, pretty useful way to teach children about "the moral of the story"

not much else

>>4786266

Um, have you seen the film The Grand Budapest Hotel perchance?

>>4789697

Yes, he is actually one of the bestselling authors of all time. Has also received lots of litcrit attention: ie. Elaine Showalter's lovely work.

>>4784505

>flaubert, neitzsche, chesterton
>appropriate for this thread

what the fuck?

>>4789897
>carlyle
>FUCKING NAPOLEON
yeah what

Dorothy Sayers can be mentioned in the same breath with Chesterton, Wodehouse et al. Lord Peter Wimsy is a less-feckless version of Bertie Wooster, and Bunter is a subtler iteration of Jeeves. And honestly her mysteries are as engrossing as any Father Brown mystery.

>>4784723
I'm opening a bar called Slothrop's. It will have a cocktail called the O. Henry Twist

>>4789768

Again, as in the original statement, Chesterton is largely ignored by mainstream and literary circles. He is a favorite among many influential writers of the 20th century (Borges, Lewis, Wolfe, Ghandi, Eliot, etc) but you'd be hard pressed to find any Chesterton on any university syllabus or read at your local book club.

>>4789735
To a skylark?

>>4784842
I like Chesterton too, but I just find this specious. What about it appeals to you?

Fuck Chesterton and his fat fucking Catholic ass.

I really loved Goodbye to Berlin by Christopher Isherwood.

>>4789487
Dude that's rough. you have to read all of those books now. her ghost will haunt you until you do.

>>4784505
>Gustuve
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

>Gustuve
guys, guys,
>Gustuve

>>4789697

His book She has sold 83 million copies. One of the best sellers of all time.

Trygve Gulbranssen, motherfuckers.

"At one point prior to the outbreak of World War II, the popularity of the Trilogy made Gulbrandsen the fourth-bestselling author worldwide, and the success of the American editions of his work secured for him the distinction of being the only Scandinavian author of fiction to be included in the prestigious List of Books Chosen for the White House - a collection of works of literature selected by U.S. publishers and presented to the White House in order to provide the president with a library of the very best in contemporary literature. "

>also wrote one of Hitler's favourite books

bump

>>4785716
>liking Daria

yo Daria sucked
Every episode was like 22 minutes of some teen rolling her eyes and feeling superior to everyone

William Makepeace Thackeray

>>4784505
what the fuck do they have in common?

did anybody read edgar saltus?

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/1417
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Saltus
>His works paralleled those by European decadent authors such as Huysmans and Oscar Wilde. Saltus wrote two books of philosophy, The Philosophy of Disenchantment and The Anatomy of Negation.
>Acclaimed by fellow writers in his day, Saltus fell into obscurity after his death.

>>4789796
agreed, stephen fry and hugh laurie nailed it in the tv series as well

>>4796543
Your teenage years must have been really rewarding.

>>4784450
Marie Corelli. She was one of the first bestselling authors, and she had a hilariously inflated idea of her own writing ability.

>>4784460
Started Redgauntlet the other day. Seems good so far. Mainly picked it up because I saw Alasdair Gray described as 'the best Scottish novelist since Walter Scott' and I'll be damned if I don't have a big ol' boner for Gray.

>>4797156
at least he wasn't a smartass dickhead

Uuuuh, the bibble is super secret underground club.