/lit/ - Literature

>see thread about book im currently reading
>plot details killed
> havent finished it yet
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

This book bored the shit out of me.

>>476963
Dude that happens on like page 30.

>>476963
You were saved from a retarded story.
What a surprise that the pretentious douche of /lit/ like this book.

This book is like a hundred years old. WTF bitching about spoilers.

>>476969
on page 18
so nothing of value has been lost yet

im out before someone does someshit to troll me

>>476983
You're so cool. Add me on myspace.

myspace.com/fuckyourshit

>>476950
Sure, we have never discussed this book before... sarcasm. Anyway, it's a great book. Often compared with 1984 and Brave New World. I find it to be better written than both those novels, yet not overall as good as 1984 because the ending of 1984 is far superior. I jizz every time I read the first few paragraphs of 451 though.

>>476962
Sorry it wasn't Twilight or Harry Potter.

>>476995
Fuck you.
P.S Harry Potter fan fiction has more interesting and developed characters then that book.

>>476984
Montag is a fury he gets fucked by a robot dog at the end of the story.

>>476983
I'm amazed anyone on /lit/ doesn't like Bradbury. I thought liking Bradbury was a symptom of knowing how to read.

If you liked this book, OP, I highly, HIGHLY recommend Martian Chronicles. One of my all-time favorite books, that.

Fahrenheit 451 version of the future was terrible it was like a low tech Brazil/Astro boy. The descriptions of the technology were just silly and pointless it took me out of the story.

>>477031
>I thought liking Bradbury was a symptom of knowing how to read.
No it's a symptom of pretentiousness.

Are there any other Bradbury books that come close to the writing style of this ?

>>477041
The fact that you thought comparing Fahrenheit 451 to Astroboy was a legitimate parallel kind of invalidates your opinions, bro.

Also, I love when people hate on his use of descriptors. I personally like 'em, because it shows how Montag's thought process wanders about and isn't fixed on the here-and-now like everyone else, as well as adding a great deal to the immersion.

Honestly I can't think of a book that uses less descriptors outside of Twilight. Even Harry Potter has about the same level of atmospheric description as Fahrenheit, though it does tend to be a little more pertinent to the plot. I guess the meandering in the narrative just doesn't bother me that much?

>>477049

I read Martian Chronicles for the first time when I was eight or nine, and loved the everloving fuck out of it.

Can you even be pretentious at eight or nine?

>>477049
liking bradbury = being pretentious?
that's a bit of a hasty generalization.

>>477067
Yes. His older stuff tends to be better, but he's no slouch these days either.

>>477041

It's only about censorship. Very limited scope.

>>477087
Perhaps, but consider if someone wrote a book about someone who grew up at the same time as the invention and popularization of the telephone, and if that character ended up getting a job in telecommunications when he was grown.

One could argue that the book was oddly telephone-centric, even though the main character was only really going with the flow of the world.

>>477087
>Fahrenheit 451
>Censorship

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It was a good book. Beatty is a pretty awesome character, easily the best in the book.

I Sing the Body Electric > Fahrenheit 451

>>477151
It's a lot of fun to read 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 back-to-back. Beatty and O'Brien are all kinds of interesting to parallel.

IF YOU LIKED 451 AND BRADBURY IN GENERAL, PLEASE GO READ SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES.

>>477151
Clarisse was my favorite character in the book.

>>477075
Which is, ironically, a definition of pretentious.

I disliked this book a whole lot. I didn't think it was well written (flowery idiom on top of granitic sentences structures, doesn't really make sense to me), the themes seemed moronic and childish to me, and the character development was pretty much inexistent. As bad of a high school book as I've ever read.

>>477049
You win the gayest person alive award.

>>477161
Beatty convinced me intellectualism and books are bad.

>>477202
> inexistent
Way to call your intelligence into question with only one "word".

I worry about teaching a lot of books that they do in high school to high school students. It's like throwing a cut diamond at a bull moose in heat. It probably has other, humpier things on its mind, and probably can't admire the craftsmanship.

Also: apparently that metaphor makes me a zoophiliac pretentious douchebag. Who knew?

>>476983
>>477049
Is this you?

>>476950
yeah I just finished it a few months ago for the first time and was blown away by all the parallels it had to our modern society despite being written 50 years ago.

>>477202
>I didn't think it was well written

>>477164
>>477049
>>477041
Make like Beatty and die in a fire.

I read this in English class freshman year of high school... meh.

>>477263
seriously. bradbury's trying way too hard to sound poetic for most of the novel. guy should've more goethe or something, the end result's horrendous.
>>477242
On the contrary, this is a well cut quartz trying to pass as an uncut diamond.

>>477295
>On the contrary, this is a well cut quartz trying to pass as an uncut diamond.

>>477262
Do you live in the midwest or the deep south? What parallels we don't have book censorship or robot dogs.

>>477257
If I still had that book I would.

>>477360
I was talking more towards the apathy the mass population in F451 had towards original work or complex ideas, opting instead for faster, dumber, more interactive versions of great works. Basically the whole shift from quality to accessibility that seems to dominate the current mass market (e.g. Twilight, Avatar).

>>477423
Sure is pretentious in here.

>>477502

>Mildred betrays Guy

BITCHES AND WHORES

I read this a few weeks ago and didn't care for it, honestly. There's no redeeming quality in it.

I'm wondering why the haters are on /lit/ in the first place. O_o

I liked it. Montag was cool with his breaking out of the collective consciousness in the world.

Another thought I found this book in the science fiction section, but I don't think I would classify it as SF.

>>477714
Genre conventions are pretty damn wonky.

Pretty much people consider it sci-fi if:

A) It takes place in a world where technology has notably progressed from the time period the author lived in.

or

B) It features a character doing something with science that, by modern standards, would be impossible.

By these criteria, both Frankenstein and 1984 are sci-fi.

>>477659
because we like actual great literature, unlike this novel right here?

>>477775
Fooooor example?

>>477789
Stephen King and shit.

>>477775
>>477789
>>477800
8/10

great troll set up.

>>477800
...and shit?

If you read "great literature", you should be able to list more than one author. >_>

And calling Stephen King "great literature" isn't a really auspicious start. I mean, dude averages good, no questions, but great?

Not so much, no.

>>477789
Dostoevsky, Burroughs and Lowry
>>477800
as obvious of a troll as it gets, just as bad as Bradbury.

>>477808
House of the Scorpion was a good sci-fi novel.
I enjoyed it alot more then Fahrenheit 451 and it had "better parallels to our modern society"

>>477824
Nah. Bradbury is better than Burroughs and Lowry.

>>477830
good young adult novel, sure
but better than 451?
gtfo

>>477830
House of the Scorpion? What are you 10?

>>477836
SO MUCH BETTER THEN 451
You know why?
IT WASN'T FUCKING PRETENTIOUS

>>477842
>PRETENTIOUS

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

If you don't like Fahrenheit 451 you are an idiot and I hate you. Also, I hope you die in a fire.

>>477834
except not really. Both are actual great poets and writers, unlike Bradbury.

>>477848

...Prepare to die.

>>477839
No just trying to show that even a 5th grade level book is better then Fahrenshit 451.

>>477848
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.