/lit/ - Literature

>>4746400
>Wisdom
>Faith
>I guess booze
>This is murky. The answer is either things that cause me grief/pain or wrath.
>I guess just wrath
>le hat maneuver

>>4746400
>Favorite virtue:
Humility
>Least favorite virtue:
Perseverance
>Favorite sin:
Written communication
>Least favorite sin:
Hubris

Love
Temperance
Pride
Gluttony

prudence
chastity
lust
envy

>Favorite virtue:
Toss-up between Courage and Compassion
>Least favorite virtue
Patience
>Favorite sin:
Pride
>Least favorite sin:
Avarice

Would /lit/ hang out with me?

wisdom
prudence
wrath
pride

>Favorite virtue: NONE OF THEM
>Least favorite virtue: NONE OF THEM
>Favorite sin: NONE OF THEM
>Least favorite sin: NONE OF THEM

>Favorite virtue:
Patience
>Least favorite virtue
Temperance
>Favorite sin:
Eating while standing up
>Least favorite sin:
Gossiping

>>4746444
You could just as easily say "favorite" and "least favorite" of the things that people generally consider virtues and vices.

>>4746444
Nietzsche himself said an ideal society would rank virtues by their necessity.

>Diligence
>Chastity
>Lust
>Pride

>>4746400
Ya mean like, the classic sevens?

>Favorite virtue:
Charity (or "magnanimity" if not multiple choice). The virtue of the overflowing, of the powerful, something that only the strong can afford. It is the only real virtue, and it can be expressed in innumerable ways. From sacrificing one's well-being, to giving up time and money, to just staying fit and looking good so you make a landscape of fatasses a little more habitable. Sometimes, the world just needs a squared away example.

>Least favorite virtue
Patience (or "tolerating a poor master" if not multiple choice). Patience itself I like, but in the countenance of a slave, that is if someone accepts poor treatment from their boss out of some aspiration to "nobility," it is reprehensible. It is cowardice. A poorly treated slave who continues to work enables his master and is responsible for the poor treatment of future underlings.

>Favorite sin:
Lust. The human body just offers so much to explore, and when you lump porn (especially some of that weird furry shit) in there, you've got a wonderful menagerie of experience. Plus, masochism can overcome nearly any boundary. Shame, pain, castration, ugliness, public abuse, degradation, cuckolding, if you can take it on and say, "Yes, this, too, is my fetish," then you're invincible.

>Least favorite sin:
Sloth (or "sloppiness"). Sloth I just generally dislike, you should be doing shit! Or at least thinking you're doing shit. Sloppiness, more specifically, I cannot stand messy rooms or messy people. It is so easy to keep things and clean, why do so many people let their houses and bodies look like a bag of ass? Even if it isn't your home, even if you're just squatting there, you can at least make an effort to keep the place organized and neat.

>>4746415
>>Least favorite virtue:
>Perseverance
:^)

>>4746483

Let's trust the cranky shut in with syphilis to determine the fate of whole societies. Nothing could go wrong.

Fortitude master-race reporting in.

>Least favorite virtue:
Temperance.

>Favorite sin:
Acedia or Luxuria.

>Least favorite sin:
Gluttony.

Good thread, OP.

>>4746512
dat ad hominem

Altruism
Faith
Wrath
Greed

>Favorite virtue:
Integrity.
>Least favorite sin:
Lust.

>>4746500
> Patience itself I like, but in the countenance of a slave, that is if someone accepts poor treatment from their boss out of some aspiration to "nobility," it is reprehensible. It is cowardice. A poorly treated slave who continues to work enables his master and is responsible for the poor treatment of future underlings.

See, patience is my favorite virtue. I think what you're saying is something different. I can respect a patient slave, I can respect a slave that has accepted his fate. I think you are like me and you can't respect a slave that has internalized his slavery and decides to work with the system than rather simply be a part of it.

>>4746500
> It is so easy to keep things and clean,
It's really not. Some people don't have the mindset for it.

>>4746483
I think that's why I find patience so admirable. It's both completely useless in the short run but might be the most useful in the long run.

Only problem is I don't think that kind of society would recognize that.

Confidence
Property
Defiance
Greed

>>4746400
Patience
Faith
Lust
Hubris

>Favorite virtue: Honour
>Least favorite virtue: patience
>Favorite sin: hubris - pride - vanity (kind of same)
>Least favorite sin: gluttony

>>4746400
>Favorite virtue:
Compassion, and caring in general
>Least favorite virtue
Satisfaction concerning what you have
>Favorite sin:
Mockery
>Least favorite sin:
Fear

>Favorite virtue:
Love
>Least favorite virtue:
Tolerance
>Favorite sin:
Narcissism
>Least favorite sin:
Stupidity

>>4746400
>Honesty
>Chastity
>Pride
>Sloth

>>4747033
You don't know how right you are...

Rumination is something that has been lost with the ages

>>4746400
There is only one true virtue and that is Charity. There is only one true sin and that is Greed.

All sin boils down to the want of something, power, sexual fulfillment, respect.
All virtues boil down to going without, Temperance is going without emotional fulfillment, diligence without rest, humility without respect.

>>4747156
Seems like bullshit since it can be prideful to overestimate yourself even if you don't care if others despise you.

And temperance doesn't mean no emotional fulfillment. It just means not letting your emotional fulfillment rely on getting lots of stuff or enjoying lots of external pleasures.

>>4747156
That's harsh generalizing, that's definitely not true in every case.

>Industria
>Castitas

>Gula
>Superbia

love
munificence
heresy
false witness

>>4747156
>ambition
>not virtù

Non violence
Prudence

Sloth
No shame

>>4746400
Wisdom
Justice
Idolatry
Malice

>>4747281
Ah, but there is a balance.

>Favorite virtue:
Justice
>Least favorite virtue
Hope
>Favorite sin:
Wrath
>Least favorite sin:
Envy

>>4746444
have fun staying 16 y old all your life

>Favorite virtue:
Fortitude
>Least favorite virtue:
Hope
>Favorite sin:
Pride
>Least favorite sin:
Greed

>Favorite virtue:
Chastity
>Least favorite virtue:
munificence
>Favorite sin:
Sloth
>Least favorite sin:
Hedonism

>>4747670
>Chastity
This made me laugh. Not being able to get laid doesn't necessarily make you virtuous.

Diligence
Chastity
Hubris
Sloth

>Favorite virtue
Success
>Least favorite virtue
Contentness, equity

>Favorite sin
Pride
>Least favorite sin
Smacking, sloth and wrath.

>Favorite virtue: Diligence
>Least favorite virtue: Humility
>Favorite sin: Pride/wrath
>Least favorite sin: Sloth

Next time you do this thread, OP, tell people to put their political affiliations in spoilers, it'll be fun to guess.

>>4746400
Sex
Sex
Sex
Sex

>>4747677
Yep, nothing more abhorrent than saving yourself for marriage. Everyone who isn't a lecher is a piece of human dog shit.
>not cheating on your spouse
LMFAO, how's the 18th century treating you?

frugality
generosity
sloth
pride

>>4746981
question

if you have a negative view of faith (or one can assume "no faith") why do you value altruism and depose of greed? it seems that devoid of faith, altruism is nothing but masturbatory pride.

>>4747787
So you're a greedy lazyass with low self-esteem?

>>4747773
There is absolutely no point in saving yourself.
Sex is not a big deal.
Shit like this born from the fucking Dark Ages due to shit stain religion in Europe.
Sex is literally the only thing that matters to civilization. It's the one thing everyone can pretty much do. It's the thing that everyone on this planet has in common. It's fucking stupid. Life is too goddamn short not to have fun and laugh with a pretty girl while naked and driving your cock into her.
Confirmed for not being able to get laid.
Welcome to the 21st century, where you can fuck someone without being beheaded by a preacher. Your wife isn't going to wait on you, buddy.

>making up sins and virtues
You dicks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Catholic_seven_virtues

>>4747810
>making up sins
>calls us dicks
>cites sins made up by someone else
top kek

>>4747798
Altruism should be spontaneous, momentary. Faith works and so requires some project, as does greed. Spontaneous greed might be something like opportunism.

>>4747803
>Confirmed for not being able to get laid.
Very assuming. I can and do get laid you raging slut. I can't marry anybody thanks to garbage like you destroying fidelity in our culture.
>Shit like this born from the fucking Dark Ages due to shit stain religion in Europe.
And China, and Japan, and India, and Arabia, and everywhere but maybe some tribes in Africa and North America pre-colonization.
It's myopic dipshits like you that make empires fall. Congratulations, you're scum.

>>4747800
nothing about my post implies greediness. quite the opposite, i value frugality over anything else. i'm about living a simple lifestyle and having as little an impact on other peoples' life as i can.

and yes, i'm reasonably lazy. all action is to me is an attempt at actualizing dreams, but as we can never fully actualize our dreams to perfection, all action leads to is decay and frustration.

"The dreamer isn't superior to the active man because dreaming is superior to reality. The dreamer's superiority is due to the fact that dreaming is much more practical than living, and the dreamer gets far greater and more varied pleasure out of life than the man of action. In other and plainer words, the dreamer is the true man of action." -Pessoa

>>4747819
Without a code everybody recognizes, people are just declaring their opinions about random psychological phenomena, and that's much less fun and tells you a lot less about the people. When there's a shorter list, you wonder what made people choose one particular thing over another.

>>4747810
Oh, I forgot Catholicism invented the concepts of sin and virtue.

>>4747840
How glum

>>4746400
Favourite virtue:
discipline, patience
least :
traditional honor.

>>4747653
see
>>4746436
We should bro it up.

>>4747855
you is what you am

>>4747835
lol
>humans are anything but animals

lolololololol

>save myself for marriage
lollolololol

stop confusing the social implications retarded humans have placed on people in empires to oppress and control and realize you're a goddamn animal, a species, and you only think you're special because the next big thing hasn't come around yet and you don't realize how pathetic and chicken like you are.

Don't understand yet? Okay, people fuck because fucking is the most important thing to a species because it keeps that species alive.
Go cry somewhere else about women wanting cock and men wanting pussy. It's natural, and you're the one who is trash trying to ruin such an awesome thing and turning it into some beautiful taboo art that shouldn't be talked about in public you stupid cunt.

>>4747803
>Sex is not a big deal.

How unfortunate- your lack of awareness, that is. By dispensing sex around without a care you devalue it. Sex is but an immediate pleasure for you low-brow dogs. You're deprived of the fulfillment that is to bite into divine fruit. To make something sacred, is a selfish virtue; one of much compensation. But you wouldn't know, degenerate.

>>4747849
>Catholicism

would literally rather be a berry picker than abide by a code created by those messed up fucks who believe in sand stories by nomads who's zeitgeist consisted of buying the goat that produced the most milk and bucked the less when they fucked it.

>>4747891
>degenerate
ahh, yet another social construct meant to oppress and control people by such 'divine' dictators

>>>/pol/

Hitler and Goebbels were professional liars, that's why they needed a Ministry of Propaganda, that's why they needed propaganda, they were just like any one else and especially just like a jew doing jew things except for in the name of something other than zionism. lol

i know your dick is small but you don't need to compensate with such a massive superiority complex.

>>4747891
Also, as far as devaluing sex, like I said the most important thing to a species in continuing that species and the only way to do that is by sex. It's naturally the most valued aspect of life and that will not change unless nature decides to destroy a species by taking its sex drive away. Fucking idiot, lrn2biology

>>4747026
I'm not saying that if your boss asks you to work a few hours over the weekend you should burn down his house, that would be the vice of Wrath. First of all, that would be excessive, and second, violent resistance isn't always necessary. In some extreme cases, the only option might be to lie down and die.

To be a virtue, as I see it anyway, something must be exceptional. Aspired to and only reached with varying degrees of success. Your patience may allow you to peaceably endure beatings, sexual harassment, belittlement, hazardous working conditions, a complete disrespect for their person, etc, etc, but what about the next person in line? And the next person after that? Your exceptional endurance works out great for you, but it is only perpetuating a negative situation.

The other part about it being a poor master is about mutual responsibility. In the case of the slave and master it is most clear, that the slave is responsible for everything the master does and the master is responsible for everything the slave does. They are like a soul and a body, unified.
Other cases (employment, citizenship, legal guardianship) are not so unified, but there is still a mutual complicity.

>>4747030
In the case of sloth as a vice, I'm referring to people who don't even remotely try to keep up appearances. Do your laundry, brush that halitosis twice a day, wear deodorant, sweep your floor once a week, cut the grass, shave, pluck your unibrow, don't leave shit lying around at random, shower everyday, pay a little attention to your health and don't become a 250 lb fatass.
These are easy habits to have and maintain, and, really, it is the sort of mindset your parents should have taught you when you were in grade school.

If you can't even accomplish basic hygiene, how can you be expected to accomplish anything else?

>>4747887
When did I say I think humans are anything but animals, you autistic homo?
Are you 14 years old? Have you yourself ever gotten laid? Have you ever had straight male friends? Have you ever had friends period?

Part of what we as apes do is control each other, for many purposes, including sex. A man's goal isn't only to screw girls, but to be the only guy screwing particular girls. Women's goal is to screw the guy that's highest in the social hierarchy of their group.
With marriage and a family unit, you're giving both men and women what they, as animals, want. The man gets a woman to call his own, and becomes the head of the group the woman is a part of, thereby giving the woman the type of man she wants: a dominant one.

Try reading things that aren't Richard Dawkins and 20th century hippie garbage, you retarded little homo.

>>4747893
*tips fedora into the 5th dimension*
*pulls rowboat-sized fedora from tear in space time*
*rows fedoraboat out into the center of the pond*
*tips rowboat*

>>4747898

Im not set on convincing you, anon. I understand the temptation. Not everyone can understand the gifts of patience and sanctity and the rewards they entail. In this postmodern world, one can't help but fall in love with sexual freedom. However, this freedom is not a true freedom. Just think, in our world, if you haven' have sex with mutilple partners you are "deficient" and the concern with sex in art and media is obssesive. This "sexual freedom" has reduced everything into a race for sex.

>>4747925
>women's goal is to screw the guy that's the highest in society

Surely, which is why only the men in the highest point in society are the only ones getting laid.
LOLOL
TOP FUCKING KEK

Also, homosexuality is very common in nature in thousands of species. Also, quite a normal construct.

How about you read something other than 1950's American propaganda about how the man is the head of the household and women must be at home and that a man owns a woman.

TOP KEK
What is Hilary Clinton hahahahahahahahahah

plz go
>>>/pol/

>>4747936
>caring about the social norms or the lack thereof of society in the choices you make in your life

oh god
civilizations have been having orgies since the first four men and women got together.
Human nature does not change, only the technology around them does. How fucking arrogant are you? Or should I say ignorant?

>>4747940
*tips fedora through head and into soul*
*melds with fedora*
*becomes fedora*
*tips self*

>>4747932


>*tips rowboat*

last line killed me

>>4747946
>>>/pol/

>>4747872
Heh, I thought about posting some joke about a sex date when I read your first post.

>>4747943
*tips magic fedora*
*clouds gather in the sky*
*picks fedora off head as if to say "good day" like a true gentleman*
*the sky opens*
*fedoras rain down*
*walks out into fedora rain*
*catches fedora*
*puts new sky-fedora on head*
*tips*

>>4747955
>>>/r/Atheism

>>4747965
>>>/churchwiththerestofthepeopletoolazytothinkforthemselvs/

>>4747835
>I can't marry anybody thanks to garbage like you destroying fidelity in our culture.
Hahahaha it always cheers me up that people like me are making weaklings like you this butthurt. Go live with the Amish if you enjoy old-school sexual repression that much.

>>4747975
He just can't get laid.
He sits in High School everyday at lunch alone with the rest of the socially inept bottom of the totem poll losers who feel sorry for themselves and has a crush on the hottest preppy bitch in school and she gives it up to anyone but him and his faggot friends. He's just another broken cog in a perfectly fine machine. He makes no difference no matter what he does and he hates everyone else for his chosen lifestyle. But he loves God and thinks that he will send him a gorgeous non degenerate (top kek) woman down from the sky to take his aching virginity away because god knows his standards for some dumb ass reason are way too high. It's a vicious circle and it's pathetic as hell.

Seriously, I'd build a special kind of S-21 for anyone using this fedora meme Ironically or unironically.

>>4747970
*calls for pizza*
*thinks of things to do while waiting the 30 minutes for it to arrive*
*plays Sonic the Hedgehog for a bit*
*puts on my little pony shirt so pizza man doesn't need to see his disgusting body*
*walks into fedora closet to pick one that looks good with the shirt*
*pizza man arrives*
*answers door* *takes pizza*
How much will it be?
>$23.50
*pays with $10 bill, thirteen $1 bills, a quarter, two dimes and five pennies*
>...
What is it?
>A tip sir?
Ah, here you are *tips fedora*

>>4747986
>>4747975
*eats fedora*
*shits it out*
*tips shit*

>>4747992
>hurr fedora
Congratulations, that's the exact kind of retarded shit I was expecting you to post. How's the aneurysm going?

>>4747987
They have ran out of their /pol/ knowledge in their secretive trap folder they keep hidden away on a flashdrive.
it's okay, just ignore them.

>>4747998
How's your fedora fitting? Well? Been outside of your house for anything but an anime convention lately, homo?
>look, I got laid once with an autistic cosplayer once, kiddos. I'm pretty much an expert on how society should work. You jelly of my swag?

>>4748005
This is a Christian.
This is what they represent
Intolerant beings who pray to a tolerant (in today's terms) liberal Israelite who believed in Judaism.

>>4748003
>Projecting: it's how I roll

>>4748010
I'm not a Christian at all, m8. And your view of Christianity is reddit-tier.

>Favorite virtue:
Humility
>Least favorite virtue
Chastity
>Favorite sin:
Lust
>Least favorite sin:
Pride

>>4748005
It isn't nice to make fun of anyone's sexual partner as long as they're in a loving relationship and it's better to do something more productive if they aren't, anyway.

>>4748042
It ain't nice to get on what's her name for liking chastity, either. These two started it.

>>4747773
Anon, let me tell you a story.

There once was a guy who loved a girl deerly. He loved her so much, he wanted to marry her - but first he wanted to know if the relationship will work out. So he spent time with her. A lot of time. His entire time he spent on her side. They laughed and lived and loved. But they never had sex, because he was keeping himself for marriage, and so was she. Then, one fine day, he thought to himself that the time has come to ask her the question of questions. And of course she wanted. They had the most beautiful of wedding celebrations! Everything was perfect. And then, in the evening, they went to bed together. And finally agreed to have sex. And it was absolutely terrible. It was awkward and not fun at all. They didn't fit. And since they both swore chestity in their yuoth, they never experienced with anyone. And they just thought, hey, that's just what sex is probably. It's awkward and not fun, so what? And they never found out what a great thing sex is, when two people fit, and know what they do. And they grew bitter over the years, due to the terrible sex. And their marriage was hell on earth.

Chestity is bullshit, anon.

>>4748057
Sounds like you must've had a shitty first time.

>>4748057
>There once was a guy who loved a girl deerly.

>>4748067
Everyone has a shitty first time, unless the one you sleep with is experienced.

Seriously, sex with virgins is terrible. It's like dancing with a broom.

>>4748042
>>4748047
What's this? A special education center playground? Holy shit, this board is making me feel old today.

>>4748075
It's not that hard to screw, m8... And this is /lit/, m8. you know virgins were revered in damn near every society ever. Late 20th into modern western society seem to be the only places this isn't true. Who but misanthropic faggots trying to be edgy don't like virgin girls?

>>4748057


thats a nice story anon, but its just that, a story. statistical evidence shows a massive correlation between abstinence before marriage and longevity of marriage, greater than ~1 no. of partners beforehand correlates to exponential increases in divorce risk per interval.

Joan R. Kahn and Kathryn A. London, "Premarital Sex and the Risk of Divorce," Journal of Marriage and the Family, 53 (1991)
Edward O. Laumann et al., The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States, (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994)
Tim B. Heaton, "Factors Contributing to Increasing Marital Stability in the United States," Journal of Family Issues, 23 (2002)
Jay Teachman, “Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women,” Journal of Marriage and Family 65 (2003)
Anthony Paik, "Adolescent Sexuality and Risk of Marital Dissolution," Journal of Marriage and Family 73 (2011)

>>4748077
Regards,
a teenager with asperger's syndrome

>>4748095
>not wanting a shit marriage that ends in divorce
>not wanting to give a woman half your life's earnings because society encourages her to be a loose slut and shames her for doing otherwise
Heh... *pulls fedora up from over his eyes* sounds like somebody just can't get laid...

>>4748095
But that statistic is actually supporting my "theory". Women who have no experience with sex just accept the one kind of sex they will have for the rest of their life.

I'm not saying that a marriage with an unexperienced girl does not last long. I am saying that sex with an unexperienced girl is less fun, and a marriage might be able to be pretty terrible if the sex is bad.
People underestimate the importance of sex for a good relationship.

>>4748092
Virgins are prefered because they give a man that sense of ownership. Being the first one to loot the dungeon, yadda yadda. Innocent women being sexually more attractive than non-sexual is a result of the middle ages and their ideas of chastity anyway.

>>4748110
How about, well, you don't marry at all? Just have a good relationship that last as long as it lasts, and when it's time to move on you move on? Why is marriage the arbitrary line of "now I can have sex"? Would you have prematarial sex with a woman you know you're going to marry?

>>4748140
I have non-marital sex every fucking weekend because fags like you are the norm in society and marriage is pointless now.
>Innocent women being sexually more attractive than non-sexual is a result of the middle ages and their ideas of chastity anyway.
No it's not. It's mentioned in the eddas, and in non-western societies as well. Read more. Christianity sucks, yes, but don't let your hatred for it constrict your mind.

>>4748171
Not really the norm in society, but a force that's there.

>>4748171
>this fag's for real

>>4748184
So what's your deal, kid? Are you just some antifa faggot here to rage against any thinking that steps outside of your comfort zone, or what?
Gotta enforce muh groupthink, huh? Do you have anything to say, at all? Do you actually have thoughts?

>>4748140


thats irrelevant because the conclusion you 'derived' from fanciful imagining is counterfactual. according to reality, chastity most certainly is not 'bullshit', ill thank you to take care in the future to not provide deleterious advice to impressionable beings unable to sniff bullshit.

>>4748205
There is a statistic that shows that the more stork nests there are in the town of Hannover, the higher the birth rate is.

>statistics
>reality

Also, if you want to go through with it, it only shows relationships are pointless.

>>4748204
Not the same guy you were talking to. Just in case you thought so.

>>4748171
>but don't let your hatred for it constrict your mind.
I don't hate christianity. I like it quite a lot, though I don't believe myself.

>>4748012
>projecting
how's that psych 101 going for you? Didn't your professor tell you not to try and be a therapist after your first semester?

>>4748276
Take you this long to come up with that one, there, sport?
>>4748258
>that statistic is actually supporting my "theory"
>no it's not
>well what the hell do statistics mean, anyway?!

>>4748285
I was too busy fucking my girlfriend out of marriage

>Favourite virtue:
Kindness.
>Least favourite virtue:
Chastity.
>Favourite sin:
Lust.
>Least favourite sin:
Sloth.

>>4748258


theres also statistics that show that people who wear helmets are more likely to get head injuries, but these 'problems' are only problematic if one lacks an ounce of world formation capacity.

>Tables are like cobwebs, like the sieve of the Danaides; beautifully reticulated, orderly to look upon, but which will hold no conclusion. Tables are abstractions, and the object a most concrete one, so difficult to read the essence of. There are innumerable circumstances; and one circumstance left out may be the vital one on which all turned. Statistics is a science which ought to be honourable, the basis of many most important sciences; but it is not to be carried on by steam, this science, any more than others are; a wise head is requisite for carrying it on. Conclusive facts are inseparable from inconclusive except by a head that already understands and knows.

and what do we know? well you said it yourself after all, if all you know is each other, then sex would seem fine regardless right? i guess not even you thought you were right!

of course, what you *dont* seem to know is all the other things (like the effects of oxytocin resistance) that happen to be concomitant with an inveterate sexual lifestyle (aka, the cock carousel).

but hey, you dont have to take just my word for it either
http://socialpathology.. (blog-spot) .com/2012/03/promiscuity-data-guest-post.html
http://radishmag.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/pump-and-dump/#irrational

>>4748204
>antifa
>Implying I need to adhere myself to such labels
Nah, I'm only laughing at you. I bet you're the same retard who got his shit-thread deleted some hours ago.
Get back to your fedora meme, you look smarter like that.