/lit/ - Literature

>working harder
Why would I? I just need to pay my bills.

After I dropped my graduation I accepted that being a non-educated person maybe is the way. Now I work 6h per day, 5 days of the week. I have a nice internet connection, a lot of books and free time to do what I want.

Probably in some years I will be regretting and entering in a crises of midlife but who cares? Not me right now.

GL.

it's not your fault op

just remember to bear that shit stoically, like JSM said seek happinness by limiting your desires, rather than attempting to satisfy them

>work harder
>implying that will help you in any way
you crack me up weirdo

somebody capitalism 101 my nigga here

just blame it on capitalism like every other lazy marxist and rage against the 'system' for your pathetic life.

>>4743335

I meant work harder at writing not whatever shit job you have you inbred

>>4743347
>implying i have a job

>>4743279
With that attitude you'll never be famous

who fucking cares, we are all going to the same place in the end and that is the dirt. It doesn't matter how hard you work in your life because in the end it wont even matter after you are non-existent.

>killurself lel

two paragraph obit, I'll take that

>>4743279
>the odds are overwhelmingly in your favour
>you will most likely never have to work ever again
>you probably will live a quiet life engaging with the arts and other proper otium activities as you please, funded by the government and the workers
>after a general education and a humanities degree you did out of pure interest you retire into unemployment contently, continuing your studies independently to your every whim
>you will spend all your time doing exactly as you please, with all the time in the world to write and getting your work to others is easier than ever before in the history of humanity
>you will die knowing that not only your close fiends and loved ones cared, but also great people from all over the world who you've communicated with beyond the bounds of culture, country and oceans in a joyful cry from mountain to mountain in our post-geographical era that unites all those who wish to be united in spirit
>every little thing you ever did will quiver through the stringlords of spacetime forever, the consequences of your actions being an irremovable part of the unfolding of the universe itself

Does you want to go for a beer or work on your short story some more or praise brahman for his eternal glory that is us and everything /lit/?

>you will die with most of the world neither knowing nor caring that you existed at all
>the only evidence you ever walked this earth will be a small urn or stone marker and a paragraph or two in the local paper

why should this be depressing? you are dead, fame will mean nothing to you. if my life were worthless i would feel the same as if it were full of meaning and fame. i'm dead either way it doesn't affect me.

> be me at the age of 19
> study Politics and Economics in a respectable university
> going to graduate in a few months, great probably with a first-class degree and awards
>have the oppurtunity to live and work/study in any European country
>still the future looks very gloomy

Why is this anon ?

>>4743408

And with any other kind of attitude, you wont be famous either.

>>4743445
how does one retire into unemployment contently?

>>4743487
Getting the right view towards the ingredients of happiness and not falling into the traps of hyperconsumerism. A disposition towards idleness also helps, I thank the gods every day for not having a job. Being concious of the absence of work is a perpetual source of joy for me.

>>4743558
how do you support yourself without a job?

>>4743563
Old money.

>>4743563
Welfare.

>>4743576
>>4743588
exploiters of the bustling proles brofist

Can't make a horse be happy.

Write for art's sake and not for the sake of your own fame.

>>4743588
doesn't that require you to apply to jobs and show that you're trying to get work?

Why would you want to become famous? You'd probably hate it once you were, most celebrities do.

>>4743626
Not if you lie or are an autistic shit.

williamstoner.jpg

>>4743636
not autistic, just scared of committing fraud. is it easy to get away with?

Well think of it like this:

If you create a great work of art, and are rewarded for it in your lifetime, that is great. Just know that, alongside being able to meet famous people, you will probably be harassed for the rest of your life by fans and academicians.

If your work becomes famous after you die, that's great, but you will be dead and unable to even care about it.

If your work never becomes significant, then it doesn't matter, because you will have died and no one will care enough about you to judge your merits or accomplishments anyway.

>>4743434
>implying the world of ideas won't make us immortal
materialist pls

>>4744092

if you sweep up this mess i've created,
nothing's left to show i existed

>>4744106
Except for your mess.
Checkmate atheists.

well i managed to get a B.A. without paying for it and with no debt, so that means I'll probably be ok with all the things OP said.

In the meantime, I plan to play a little drinking game my friends and I invented, called Ultimate Blackout.

Here are the rules:
Ultimate Blackout.
You drink until you are dead.
Drink, Drink, Drink, Drink, Drink.

it's a haiku.

>>4743279

Knowledge of present averages does not denote the future, and the motivation of fame for its own sake is a distraction for most, and unworthy of the Best.

Everyone dies, everything ends. Entropy. Are you trying to leave evidence you existed? Proof you lived? If you know this, why dwell?

These are thoughts best to experience and get over.

You can go all existential, you can decide everything carries infinite meaning (still meaningless), or you can block the question/answer from your conscious. You can hit everywhere in between. Ultimately being depressed or inspired by the realization that no one cares or will know to or even should motivates me sometimes, and sometimes depresses and holds me back.

Don't ask us.

Why don't you give us an answer?

>>4744401
>You drink until you are dead.
Doesn't sound easy.
I wonder how addiction feeds the survival instinct to be able to keep up the addiction.

>>4743279
>not really
>how is that bad
>i already have
>no job is bad enough to ruin your life but good enough to be worth keeping
>no?
>so will the rest of the world
>that sounds lovely

cada martes tiene su domingo

That doesn't inspire me to work harder, but rather the knowledge that it isn't true. I'm too good for that. I'm too hard a worker and too smart to dissolve into just another part of the Earth - just another pair of the billions of feet that have tread it. My defiance against that fate and rejection of that entire mindset will save me.

no i actually believe in my ability to write novels that people will love

>>4743279

Nope, don't care. I write trite YA novels and have a small following, I make a modest income from it and work part time on the side. My novels will be forgotten after the YA fads subside, yet this doesn't bother me, because I write for a living and I'm happy. My schooling made me an educated person and I enjoy the perks that come with having a mind capable of critical thinking.

Everything is forgotten eventually, you just have to go far enough forward time to find where the memory dies. 1 millions years from now I seriously doubt anyone will give a fuck about Kierkegaard or Nietzsche or anyone else you worship on this forum. I'd recommend pulling your head out of your ass and stop valuing yourself on how others perceive you.

>>4743339
I'm always suspicious of people keen on work.

>>4744568
We still like cave paintings.

>being this much of a negative nancy
>>>/r9k/

fatalism or something

>the odds are overwhelmingly against you
Yes
>you will most likely never become famous, or even well-known
Famous, nah
>you probably will not even distinguish yourself in your local circle
Already have
>after nearly 20 years of school you will find a job that you probably hate or are ambivalent towards, cause hey, it pays the bills
Never been to school
>you will slave away for decades, and even if you find time for writing very little if any of it will ever travel beyond your desk
a lot of it has
>you will die with most of the world neither knowing nor caring that you existed at all
some people will care, more will know
>the only evidence you ever walked this earth will be a small urn or stone marker and a paragraph or two in the local paper
there will be more than that, but ultimately all evidence will disappear. if my memory were totally erased from everyone when I died, I can't say that would bother me too much. Life isn't an object, it's an action: I live. I do not need a monument to treasure that.

>>4743465
you could replace fame with life for that matter - i.e. when you're dead, it doesn't matter that you've lived, so why live?

genes. all the stupid shit you do you can blame on genes (for the most part anyway, some of it is culture)

>>4746666
Quads of truth

>>4746636
then why are you bragging about getting published?

>>4746791
Getting published is easy

>>4746800
post your work nerd

>>4746805
I would if I weren't concerned about being stalked.

>>4746810
no one is going to stalk a tripfag on a chinese cartoon forum

what sort of writing is it

>>4746815
/pol/ has threatened my life several times. I'm not in fear for it, but I am entirely sure members of the board would harass me in any way they could, and some would definitely stalk me, since I've seen threads made about what sort of panties I wear.

My writing varies heavily, but most of it is experimental. One of my works is pure spontaneity, as in no constraint on reality at all. Another work is a collection of second-person stories designed to make the reader uncomfortable with their unconscious desires. I'd go into more detail on these things, but, again, I am concerned about my identity being discovered.

>>4746832
how did u get published

>>4746844
Rich guy got me published with a big name in order to impress me, then interestingly enough died before he could have a chance to sleep with me. Which works for me, since I would never have slept with him anyway.

I continue to get published because there's a market for my work.

>>4746851
how successful are you

>>4746851
>Rich guy got me published with a big name in order to impress me, then interestingly enough died before he could have a chance to sleep with me. Which works for me, since I would never have slept with him anyway.

So you're a fantasy writer?

>>4746851

>>4746853
I make a lot of money

>>4746856
Noooo

>>4746873
I don't really believe you. You were just kidding about all that rich guy stuff right?

>>4746873
post a small passage of your writing

>>4743279
I've been looking for a job for a while now and even finding one I hate would feel like a victory, to be honest. And I've got straight As, first class degree, distinction at masters, and am about to get a PhD, all at top institutions and in the humanities.

>>4746636
>Never been to school
Wut. Were you raised by wolves?

>>4746879
I'll leave that up to you.

>>4746893
I don't want to quote passages of published work. Here's something off the top of my head.

>He opens his mouth and it subsumes you darkness crawling over your skin before light deprives you of it. The music commences and you order your eyes perform vivisection upon the ass of the departing waitress. The conversations scatter your mind it until you drink.

I have no idea how to get anywhere with my writing. All I do is post shit on my blog with 7 subscribers, and the only people who actually read any posts are my friends I force the links upon.

>>4746921
post some here

>>4746919
>>He opens his mouth and it subsumes you darkness crawling over your skin before light deprives you of it. The music commences and you order your eyes perform vivisection upon the ass of the departing waitress. The conversations scatter your mind it until you drink.

why hello there purple

>>4746919
how old are you

>>4746636
>Never been to school
you do sound like it

>>4746939
24

>>4746929
is either ignored or lightly praised

then the thread disappears, and things remain the same

>>4746969
such is life

>>4746969
>>4746974

ill give you legitimate feedback

>>4746919
>second person

>>4746919
Are the mistakes here... deliberate?

>the odds, as a lower-middle class male with high cultural capital are overwhelmingly in your favor
>fame means nothing, most powerful influential people are rather obscure
>you've already become distinguished at a young age amoung your friends and township as an intelectual, written for the local paper and short personalized stories for close friends
>money means nothing to you and your family owns enough land to make a comfortable living as a gentleman farmer
>to you work is a form of play, and nothing gives you more of a thrill than moving up the social latter, have the energy to continue your studies after work and between writing, studying, working, and social nessecities you often spend almost all your waking hours moving forward
>Able to abuse job benifits and network enough that you profit ten times as much as the average person in your position
>have hundreds of friends living all over the globe who would know and care if you died
>as a unique being with who lives in the moment and to the universe exists only within my personal context, I will never die, and even when I do the universe will be destroyed with me

Keep it CCC and keep going forward OP

>>4746919
>He opens his mouth and it subsumes you darkness crawling over your skin before light deprives you of it. The music commences and you order your eyes perform vivisection upon the ass of the departing waitress. The conversations scatter your mind it until you drink.

Femi plz.

You can do better than that. That's about as bad as the unedited drivel I come up with gets, and I'm nowhere near close to being published.

>>4746978
Mainly in short stores. In novels I just use it for descriptions rather than trying to make the reader an active participant in story ("She'd sit in a way that would make you smile because it looked like she had to pee.")

>>4746982
They aren't mistakes. If you mean to ask if the unconventional grammar--or "improper", if you prefer--is deliberate, then the answer is yes.

>>4747003
I can, yes. I can also do worse, and indeed I have thrown out a lot of writing that is worse than that. Especially the morning after I write it and I look it over and just erase every damn word.

are we doing feels

>tfw life is a farce
>tfw everything and everybody is dumb
>tfw you can feel yourself reverting to your old 16 year old nihilist phase that birthed your pretentiousness
>tfw havent done any drugs for far too long
>tfw all that really matters in the end is vanity

why is arrogance so comfortable. is it because bitches flock to me on the reg? because respectful/envious looks fuel me like manna?goddamn it how do people honestly live past age 25. by that point you should have figured everything out and realized that literally everything is futile. why would you ever get married? are you that much of a desperate lonely fuck that you need to marry? and kids? don't even get me started

i mean i can understand women's need for that shit, their entire chemistry revolves around the dick. but not me bro. not us bros. all i need is occasional pussy and im fine. what is the point of anything else? has everyone just decided to be retarded aimless humans for all these millenia? when i see a middle aged person working some menial ass job i die a little inside, i have to be careful not to flaunt my brilliance too hard around them

i had a pretty good amor fati going for a while but now it has to be discarded. being a hurr durr patrician god has its perks but they lose their novelty, especially when they can't even be used to the fullest extent because of all the hurr durr plebs breathing my air

is a wife and kids really the way to go? its so primal and pathetic. where's the sublimity? where's the swag? i thought the way to go was being a swaglord king of the earth with a harem and a lambo but even that wouldn't cut it. a wife and kids wouldn't cut it either. i was cutting it real deep but it can no longer be cut. nothing can cut it

once again the jews have emerged as the sole distributor of pain. there is no other explanation, its seriously all their fault. they must be usurped from their satanic thrones once and for all for there to be peace. hitler wasnt so bad guys, he was just a little too evil

ill figure something out of course, but this will take some time. and reading is probably the most noble hobby but all it amounts to is puerile escapism. few do anything with what they learned from reading. what giant strides have been made in the field since the greco-romans? fucking nothing. i would be such a swaglord in ancient greece. i bet im plato reincarnated, but smarter. all i need to do is restart the glorious disquisition i was working on so that finally some shit can get done in this century that hasn't yet been bastardized by science. damn

>>4743279
Sad how the WASP male has fallen so low as to need validation from a massive audience rather than just those in his immediate surroundings. I blame the internet, and feminism to a lesser extent.

I know the feeling. I can't get laid either.

>>4747140
>I can't get laid because of feminism

>>4747098
lol. Can't tell if parody, but that's why I like it

>>4747149
Feminism is a horrible movement that has accomplished it's purpose and should die.

Genders are different. Deal with it.

>>4747149
At least tell me that you're unhappy, too.

>>4747149
But that's not what I said. Feminism is a macrocosmic force, it has nothing to do with my personal inability to get laid. Western men as a whole are just having trouble adjusting to all the added competition (I mean just look at this website).

And that last part was a joke anyway GEEZ.

>>4747174
>women weren't in the labor force before feminism

>>4747193
They didn't hold executive positions to any kind of substantial degree.

I can't believe we're having this argument I'm not even anti-feminist. I was pointing out how OPs post derives from the general inability for men to derive satisfaction from their immediate surroundings. To restate, I blame the internet foremost, and feminism only in it's misinterpretation.

>>4743279
I'm going to be a bestseller by 25. I'm 21 now, 37,000 words in. It's a shit novel, with a half-assed story line. The only good thing or enjoyable thing about it is the originality of the characters and the interpersonal relationships. I don't write love, I don't tell, I write a good narrative.

Hope is a bad thing, but knowing your work is easy by sending them to online magazines. The more you revise, the less rejects you get.

SPR

>>4747205
It's misinterpretation being as an emasculating force.

I'll admit to feeling emasculated, but I know that has more to do with technology than feminism (which is pretty much a consequence of technology anyway). And even then it probably has more to do with some hormone deficiency.

>>4747215
being a crybaby surely won't help you gaining your virility back u puss
pic related: It's me and my bitch, she just blew me, shit was so cash

>>4743323
its not ur fault

>>4747230
Forgot your pic.

>>4747205
No, they couldn't, but as far as regular work goes they could not only be employed, but were paid far, far less than men were, below subsistence wages (meaning they still needed men to support them, and tended to work to supplement male income), which is kind of worse for men than equal pay for equal work.

>>4747241
Feminister I think we pretty much agree.

>>4743279
This realization makes me want to an hero. Very badly. Tired of everything the world has to offer.

Tired of music. Tired of games. Tired of stories. Tired of exercise. Tired of sex. Tired of alcohol. Tired of this computer. Tired of existing. What do I do?

>>4747245
Oh. Well in that case I have no use for you

>>4747246
I hate this above all my greatest fear is boredom and we've SO much shit at our disposal it's hard not to become jaded and not take things for granted.

Often if a song doesn't move me, or if I get annoyed I just leave the house and walk around for a bit-it really helps when you're sitting at a screen all day, you'll probably feel rejuvenated

>>4747250
Sort of like how society in general has no more use for men.

Check please!

Daily reminder that nothing matters and there's no point to living or dying.

>that feel when barely anyone will attend your funeral

>>4747358
We're all attending each others funerals right now.

>>4747398
i'm attending ur mother's funeral right nowshe's being buried under six feet of my penis

>>4747398

is this deep or just bullshit: /lit/ edition

>>4747398
she typed, leaning back exposing her pink underwear with a smug expression on her face

>>4747246
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Forest_Tradition#The_Tradition_in_the_West

>>4747427
She's been reduced to ashes for some time now actually.

>>4747429
It's just a way of looking at things. Don't feel too alone in this crowd, anon. Enjoy your day.

>>4747469
exactly ;)

>the odds are overwhelmingly against you
Never tell me the odds.
>you will most likely never become famous, or even well-known
Feels good, everything I've read or seen suggests that fame is horrible.
>you probably will not even distinguish yourself in your local circle
I'm not sure what local circle you're referring to, but I'm not sure how it matters.
>after nearly 20 years of school you will find a job that you probably hate or are ambivalent towards, cause hey, it pays the bills
Maybe, maybe not. It's easy to stop hating.
>you will slave away for decades, and even if you find time for writing very little if any of it will ever travel beyond your desk
I have no problem "slaving," and I see no problem with it. If some sort of revolution comes then it comes when it comes, and being bitter because it hasn't come already seems a waste of time. As for my writings not reaching beyond my desk, well, what about it?
>you will die with most of the world neither knowing nor caring that you existed at all
Good. Imagine if the whole world mourned at my passing, that'd make me feel bad about myself, making all those people sad.
>the only evidence you ever walked this earth will be a small urn or stone marker and a paragraph or two in the local paper
The greatest crimes are those that no-one discovers.

>>4747452
>tfw you get this in joke
>tfw you realise this means that you belong
>tfw you realise how much time you waste in this shit hole

>>4747246
>Tired of music. Tired of games. Tired of stories. Tired of exercise. Tired of sex. Tired of alcohol. Tired of this computer. Tired of existing. What do I do?

Sounds like you're pretty tired. Find some life coffee.

Is there a point in life if you don't get into oxbridge?

>>4748245
Cocksbridge more like.

>>4748272
hmmm secret oxford homosociety cock

>>4743279
Work harder, gotta beat the odds somehow.

>>4748225
>tfw you've reached the point where you realise that time not spent suffering is time well spent

>>4748330
Sorry sir, are you implying that time spent on 4chan is not spent suffering?

>>4748359
I am. It's a glorious neutrality sprinkled with keks here and there, making for a potent forgetfulness.

"Marcus [Aurelius] also offers some words of advice to those who
value what many would take to be the ultimate form of fame:
immortal fame. Such fame, Marcus says, is “an empty, hollow
thing.” After all, think about how foolish it is to want to be
remembered after we die. For one thing, since we are dead,
we will not be able to enjoy our fame. For another, we are
foolish to think that future generations will praise us, without
even having met us, when we fi nd it so diffi cult to praise our
contemporaries, even though we meet them routinely. Instead
of thinking about future fame, Marcus says, we would do well
to concern ourselves with our present situation; we should, he
advises, “make the best of today.”

I just want a job dude.

>>4748453
>'wanting' a job

People don't want jobs, they need them or they hate them.

>>4743339
did your dad tell you this?

>>4744092
>thinking anything will be left of modern civilization in ~200 years

either our technology and knowledge of science would be so far advanced that we'd have surpassed the need for old-humanity arts and entertainment.

or our civilizations collapse due to war, natural disasters, changing climates etc.

for all you know it this shit is all made up in your head and when you die it really is over, you can't objectively say anything continues after your own death.

>>4748697
no your mom did. as i fucked her doggy

>>4748715
Edgy McSuberbia over here

Just wait for immortality

http://hms.harvard.edu/news/genetics/new-reversible-cause-aging-12-19-13

>>4749058
technology is gonna solve everything

>>4749058
>Infinite suffering > finite suffering
>infinite work
>no unproductive childhood and old age
>100% infinite efficient workforce at the height of their bodily capabilities

You sciencebros are really some sadist sons of bitches aren't ya?

>>4747098

Best post in this terrible and boring thread

Just look at these two fags:

>>4746636
>>4743445

How pathetic does it sound that you have to downplay the fear of death with "fame" and "friends". Once you are dead conschiousness ceases to exist and surprse! you will never be able to enjoy the benefits of shame. but what these two fags don't realise was that Art is never made because you are not lonely or happy, but rather because you are lonely and miserable.

Art fulfils man and brings out the best vocations in him, this is why almost always ,great art is made for arts sake.

One should adopt not a quetist attitude where everything is beautifully cheery and naive but also not to devolve into the depression of OP, were memory weights like a nightmare.


>>4747480

You, I like.

[1] Love justice, you that are the judges of the earth. Think of the Lord in goodness, and seek him in simplicity of heart. [2] For he is found by them that tempt him not: and he sheweth himself to them that have faith in him. [3] For perverse thoughts separate from God: and his power, when it is tried, reproveth the unwise: [4] For wisdom will not enter into a malicious soul, nor dwell in a body subject to sins. [5] For the Holy Spirit of discipline will flee from the deceitful, and will withdraw himself from thoughts that are without understanding, and he shall not abide when iniquity cometh in.

[6] For the spirit of wisdom is benevolent, and will not acquit the evil speaker from his lips: for God is witness of his reins, and he is a true searcher of his heart, and a hearer of his tongue. [7] For the spirit of the Lord hath filled the whole world: and that, which containeth all things, hath knowledge of the voice. [8] Therefore he that speaketh unjust things cannot be hid, neither shall the chastising judgment pass him by. [9] For inquisition shall be made into the thoughts of the ungodly: and the hearing of his words shall come to God, to the chastising of his iniquities. [10] For the ear of jealousy heareth all things, and the tumult of murmuring shall not be hid.

[11] Keep yourselves therefore from murmuring, which profiteth nothing, and refrain your tongue from detraction, for an obscure speech shall not go for nought: and the mouth that belieth, killeth the soul. [12] Seek not death in the error of your life, neither procure ye destruction by the works of your hands. [13] For God made not death, neither hath he pleasure in the destruction of the living. [14] For he created all things that they might be: and he made the nations of the earth for health: and there is no poison of destruction in them, nor kingdom of hell upon the earth. [15] For justice is perpetual and immortal.

[16] But the wicked with works and words have called it to them: and esteeming it a friend have fallen away, and have made a covenant with it: because they are worthy to be of the part thereof.

>>4749153
>dancing is about being lonely and miserable

[1] For they have said, reasoning with themselves, but not right: The time of our life is short and tedious, and in the end of a man there is no remedy, and no man hath been known to have returned from hell: [2] For we are born of nothing, and after this we shall be as if we had not been: for the breath in our nostrils is smoke: and speech a spark to move our heart, [3] Which being put out, our body shall be ashes, and our spirit shall be poured abroad as soft air, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, which is driven away by the beams of the sun, and overpowered with the heat thereof: [4] And our name in time shall be forgotten, and no man shall have any remembrance of our works. [5] For our time is as the passing of a shadow, and there is no going back of our end: for it is fast sealed, and no man returneth.

[6] Come therefore, and let us enjoy the good things that are present, and let us speedily use the creatures as in youth. [7] Let us fill ourselves with costly wine, and ointments: and let not the flower of the time pass by us. [8] Let us crown ourselves with roses, before they be withered: let no meadow escape our riot. [9] Let none of us go without his part in luxury: let us everywhere leave tokens of joy: for this is our portion, and this our lot. [10] Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged.

[11] But let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. [12] Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. [13] He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. [14] He is become a censurer of our thoughts. [15] He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men' s, and his ways are very different.

[16] We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. [17] Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. [18] For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. [19] Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. [20] Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words.

just inject yourself testosterone, if you want that megalomaniac feeling . You will be more noticed but as any notorious person, many will think you were an asshole

[21] These things they thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them. [22] And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls. [23] For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him. [24] But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world: [25] And they follow him that are of his side.

[1] But the souls of the just are in the hand of God, and the torment of death shall not touch them. [2] In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure was taken for misery: [3] And their going away from us, for utter destruction: but they are in peace. [4] And though in the sight of men they suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality. [5] Afflicted in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded: because God hath tried them, and found them worthy of himself.

[6] As gold in the furnace he hath proved them, and as a victim of a holocaust he hath received them, and in time there shall be respect had to them. [7] The just shall shine, and shall run to and fro like sparks among the reeds. [8] They shall judge nations, and rule over people, and their Lord shall reign for ever. [9] They that trust in him, shall understand the truth: and they that are faithful in love shall rest in him: for grace and peace is to his elect. [10] But the wicked shall be punished according to their own devices: who have neglected the just, and have revolted from the Lord.

[11] For he that rejecteth wisdom, and discipline, is unhappy: and their hope is vain, and their labours without fruit, and their works unprofitable. [12] Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked. [13] Their offspring is cursed: for happy is the barren: and the undefiled, that hath not known bed in sin: she shall have fruit in the visitation of holy souls. [14] And the eunuch, that hath not wrought iniquity with his hands, nor thought wicked things against God: for the precious gift of faith shall be given to him, and a most acceptable lot in the temple of God. [15] For the fruit of good labours is glorious, and the root of wisdom never faileth.

[16] But the children of adulterers shall not come to perfection, and the seed of the unlawful bed shall be rooted out. [17] And if they live long, they shall be nothing regarded, and their last old age shall be without honour. [18] And if they die quickly, they shall have no hope, nor speech of comfort in the day of trial. [19] For dreadful are the ends of a wicked race.

>>4749174

Yes it is, when you are dancing do you reflect on your misery and lonelyness?

>"“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”

Only art and love can aleviate the drudgery and pure suffering we have to go through our lives. Fame ,fortune and other self-aggrandising is meaningless.

>>4749153
>How pathetic does it sound that you have to downplay the fear of death with "fame" and "friends". Once you are dead conschiousness ceases to exist and surprse! you will never be able to enjoy the benefits of shame. but what these two fags don't realise was that Art is never made because you are not lonely or happy, but rather because you are lonely and miserable.
>Art fulfils man and brings out the best vocations in him, this is why almost always ,great art is made for arts sake.
>One should adopt not a quetist attitude where everything is beautifully cheery and naive but also not to devolve into the depression of OP, were memory weights like a nightmare.
why shouldn't i be content again?

>>4749170
>>4749180
>>4749185

Fuck off and die, nobody will become christian because you copy pasted some shit.

Also pro-tip heaven and hell don't exist , your sky daddy doesn't care about you copypasting his shit on 4chan, so you are not scoring any points for your imaginary after-life.

>>4749208
*grinds fedora into dust and snorts it*
YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHH MOTHERFUCKER I HATE MY PARENTS FOR MAKING ME GO TO CHURCH

>>4749204

Because you will become passive, boring and eventually resentfull when happiness leaves you.

The one that suffers more apreciates the fleeting glipmses of hapyness like it's a real treasure. To the one that is content, it is eventually trivial and repetitive.

>>4749214

You really do have bad-consciousness don't you?

God does not exist
Heaven does not exist

If it upsets you that someone is making an equal claim to truth to these two things , then you have lost and God is already dead.

>>4749194
>dancing is only art when it's about misery and loneliness

>>4749226

Are you daft?

Art is always about alleviating lonelyness even at it's most depressive.

Why do we make art? Only to impress others? For fame? For money?

Art springs from the soul because it brings solace and hapyness to it. Art is a cathartic process that rehabilitates all negative feeling.

Art from purely happy times means nothing and tells nothing.

But also look at OP, what kind of art is he going to make with that kind of self-hatred and when everything is meaningless in the long run?

>>4749225
*tips fedora* Anybody who disagrees with me is some stupid, religious Christian fundie. I know because His Holiness The Dawkins says so.

>>4749248
>poetry that describes happiness is shit

>tfw published author in fiction, non-fiction, and scholarly venues
>tfw 4.0 GPA at top 20 university
>tfw a dozen professors ordering me to come meet with them so they can pour letters of rec on me
>tfw skipping straight to PhD and completing it in half the time most people take
>tfw every single advisor and contact told me that I'm going to be the next great scholar in my field
>tfw unending desire to write
>tfw notebooks full of ideas that are actually good and any one of which could be a publishable novel or short story
>tfw talented prose stylist from birth
>tfw physically fit
>tfw attractive
>tfw beautiful girlfriend
>tfw I can't form objective opinions about ideas like the Ubermensch because I might actually be him

>>4749225
God is subjective
Heaven is subjective

I have a nihilistic friend who tells me this all the time.

I derive the only pure happiness in my life from it so I carry on, knowing the odds are stacked, aware that it's a monumental task in seclusion and misanthropy to write a novel.

But hey, books get published all the time. Maybe I'll be lucky one day.