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Why do people still study philosophy if every philosophical problem is solved? Why are old philosophical books still read if they're outdated as hell?

>> No.4645914

0.999... = 1
still hasn't been solved

>> No.4645921

Philosophy gets solved every decade or so but because of the constantly evolving nature of language, future generations study the texts of their forefathers and believe them to be inaccurate by their nouveau standards of language and hence start the cycle anew.

>> No.4645926

>>4645912
fasd

>> No.4646135

well, you are right, philosophy ended
at least the academic tradition

>> No.4646139

Has philosphy ever really solved anything since the Greeks?

>> No.4646190

>Why do people still study philosophy if every philosophical problem is solved?
Like what?

Look, people study philosophy because it is a rich western tradition that took part in and influenced almost every major intellectual pursuit, including theology and empirical science. Surely philosophy is worth exploring as a way to understand our own history and culture?

This anti-philosophical stance in popular scientists is a problem, because they wish to delegate the entire pursuit for themselves. Why would you need philosophy when we can combine empirical science with our own metaphysical and epistemological framework - this seems to be their agenda. Throw everything that doesn't fit with our view away! Philosophy, theology, it's all ancient superstition and has no place in academia! We might as well throw the arts away. It's dangerous, ignorant bullshit.

>> No.4646198

>>4646139
There have certainly been integral and universally subscribed to developments.

In terms of solved anything though? Only in the individualistic Wittgensteinian therapeutic sense.

>> No.4646212

>>4645912
because thinking about the nature of everything is interesting.

too many people just ignore any question or idea that takes more than 2 seconds to think about or if it cant be tested in a lab.

>> No.4646219

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

>> No.4646240

>>>/b/
>>>/v/
>>>/sci/

>> No.4646265

>>4646139
In the uncountable situations that all people have been faced with throughout their lives, going back all the way to Socrates and earlier, yes, you can be sure that philosophy has been of use on at least a few occasions.

>> No.4648081

I really wish someone would come and wipe the floor with Wittgenstein.

>> No.4648085

>>4645912
>philosophy
>solved
thats not how it works faggots, it is not something that can be solved

>> No.4649131

>>4648085
Why not?

>> No.4649139

>>4645912


but its not solved op, people still seriously believe equality and democracy are good things in this day and age.

>> No.4649144

>>4648081
What do you mean?

The Later Wittgenstein wouldn't have thought that philosophy could be outmoded, or that all philosophical questions could be solved by the doctrinal work of a single thinker.

>> No.4649145

Philosophy is pointless. You can't make money from it.

cHECK-MATE Buddhists

>> No.4649149

>>4649139
Like Russell? *tips fedora* :^)

>> No.4649200

>>4649144
I'm just waiting for the next big genius to make his arrival. I adore Ludo but I have feeling that he didn't really hit "the bottom" yet. Meaning is use only as far as the purpose of meaning is to communicate with it. I've read his diaries and it only confirmed how deeply religious he was. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but to me it seems his personal raison d'être was to connect with God and the Other, and that will to connect really shows in his philosophy. Hence his vehement opposition to the possibility of private language

>> No.4649388

>>4649144
What do YOU mean? Late Wittgenstein and early Wittgenstein are two parts of the same coin.

>> No.4649395

>>4649200
Just thought I'd mention this here.

Alex Kierkegaard, a.k.a. Icycalm, just put up his new website (the first one was insomnia.ac, a video games focused site) that'll be all about philosophy: http://orgyofthewill.net/.. He already has the preface to his upcoming book posted on it, which is over 13,000 words and definitely worth reading (like anything he writes). He's basically a modern Nietzsche, except he himself has said he plans on overstepping Nietzsche, and I don't doubt this for a moment.

>> No.4649409

>>4645921
this

>> No.4649484

>>4649395
Checked it out. I don't know what it signifies, but it sure is full of sound and fury. Just like Nietzsche, existentialism on steroids. The part where he calls Wittgenstein a brainless twit was pretty funny though.

>> No.4649526

>>4645912
>Why do people still study philosophy if every philosophical problem is solved?
Even if there are writings which could take some one to a point where their thought process is with out "philosophical problems" (I doubt it),
I am not knowing those pieces of information,
and so the studying and analysis of philosophy is important to me,
as one might find a way of exerting those ideas on to me.
>Why are old philosophical books still read if they're outdated as hell?
This is rhetoric, right?
I agree with you, the information I believe to have received from my readings of Hegel and Kant, it would seem, have given me a new mode of analysis of "philosophical problems" but not the complete and utter solving of them, if that is even possible.

>> No.4649544

>>4649395
>He's basically a modern Nietzsche, except he himself has said he plans on overstepping Nietzsche, and I don't doubt this for a moment.

Go to bed Alex.

>> No.4649576

>>4645912
>Why do people still study philosophy
Mental exercise and desire to understand how society was built.

Why do people study history if everyone already knows the outcome?

Can we end this thread now

>> No.4649588

>>4649395
>Alex Kierkegaard, a.k.a. Icycalm

Dropped

>> No.4649595

GUYS GUYS GUYS

The universe is a tautology of itself

1 = 1

Everything solved

Thank me later

>> No.4649616

>>4649588
>>4649595
>>4649544

>> No.4649633

>>4649395
What is this tripe?

>> No.4649675

>>4649595
>1 = 1

A revolutionary thought

>> No.4649735

truemonism.com

>> No.4649747

>>4649395
you need to stop viralling here so much. your shit isn't even interesting. i'm pretty sure i've had to call you out for this before.

>> No.4649771

>>4649395
this is embarrassingly bad. influence has become imitation here. dear god, the hyphens are just robbed directly from nietzsche texts. a teenager's fantasy of being nietzsche, played out over 13,000 words. disgusting.

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>>4646190
Can someone give me a distinct description of how philosophy and science are different? I've often heard philosophy described as the "search for truth" or an attempt to "understand the world." Isn't that just what science is?

Aristotle studied marine biology. Ben Franklin studied electricity. René Descartes studied astronomy and math. Can't you just argue that their so-called "philosophical" works were just an extension of their scientific pursuits?

>> No.4650555

>>4650548
Only bad philosophers think philosophy is a search for truth. Philosophers create concepts.

>> No.4650561

le hegel face

>> No.4650569

>>4650548
science is a discipline of observation like history or art criticism that employs the philosophy of empirical knowledge and more specifically falsification of hypotheses to make sense of the information its observations give it

philosophies are basically linguistic systems which give a framework with which to interpret information

>> No.4650602

>>4645912
What is Being?

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4650623

>>4650555

>Philosophers create concepts
I think you mean that philosophers discover concepts, anon-kun.

>> No.4650632

>>4650602

Participation in any given thing.

>> No.4650640

>>4650623
I try to say dumb things in my philosophy classes so that senpai notices me.