/lit/ - Literature

A Fugitive Crosses His Tracks.

Ibsen

Why is Nordic litterature so depressing?

>Eurocentrism, the thread

>>4540174
How fucking stupid are you?

>>4540142
>Essential
>Nordic

>>4540171
Because we live in a cold society.
Jantelaw, nigga.

>>4540182
>defining any one group of people (of course, the most European of Europeans) as "essential" reading
>getting upset when someone with an education calls you out

How very droll. That reminds me,
>>>/pol/

Beckett, Whitman and Luo Guanzhong.

>>4540188
He's not saying nordic literature is essential.
He's asking what books are essential within nordic literature.

You are a fucking retard.

>>4540188
>What is reading comprehension

>No Hamsun

What is the proper pronunciation of Knut?

>>4540188
>>4540174

>OP asks for literature from a certain area or culture
>Some faggot thinks asking about literature from Europe is the same as Eurocentrism
>Called out on his bias
>Decides to brag about his "education" and assumes asking about literature from Europe is equivalent to Nazism

Why are some people so fucking retarded?

The Egyptian

>>4540269
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mfrPRNleuU

>>4540269
http://vocaroo.com/i/s00rVcNLLb6c

Kalevala if you are into national epics

Find a better novel, I dare you.

>>4540269
kuh nood

that norwegian guy who wrote a multivolume autobiography called "my struggle"

>>4540328
Actually, you're right, anon!!
I fucking LOVED that book.

The cocka Hola company
Macht und Rebel
Unfun

also
Nora and sagas

>>4540328
Great book. I've read it atleast twice, both as a kid and as an adult and loved it both times.

Surprised me.

greatest book ever written.
too bad it isnt translated :)

>more than two posts
>hunger isn't mentioned yet

Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow is one of the best mystery novels I've ever read.

Strindberg is well known and appreciated.

>>4540151
Is it true that the Jantelaw is still in effect? If so, holy fuck man.

>>4540188

This is bait, right?

>>4541375
the jantelaw still functions as an sort of social mechanism, but i see it as a very constructive attitude. you should always be striving to be better than you are, and using your betterness to gain any social status is despicable.

>>4540142
Strindbergs Red Room and The People of Hemsö
are good places to start.

Selma Lagerlöf is important but can't say any specific book. But she was the first women to win Nobel Prize in Literature.

( This is Sweden only )
>>4541375
Yes the law of jante is still common but it depends on the region so you won't find it everywhere but it is still something that still characterize living here.

>>4540142
The short stories of Karen Blixen are worth reading.
The plays of Henrik Ibsens are obviously also worth reading, and are probably some of the most influential writings from Scandinavia.

I. P. Jacopsen (might be spelled J. P. Jacopsen)

Jante Lit general?

>>4540151
Any Swedes here who have read it in Norwegian?
Was it a problem? I can read the news in Norweigan but not sure about a entire book.

selma lageröl lol

>>4540142

Henning Mankell's books met your exact criteria during a recent 8 week hospital stay.

Ibsen and Waltari are definitely essential. Also Arto Paasilinna, and Kalevala if you like myths.

The Icelandic Sagas suck

>>4541425
The Jerusalem series, is literally some of modernist literature in its finest.

>>4540188
I hope you and all of your worthless bloodline dies.

>>4541489
>muh alcoholic-cop Swedish crime
>essential

>>4541509
Just skip the parts where they ramble about who was related to who and they're more tolerable. I enjoyed Egils Saga

>>4540188
>how very droll
>how very euphoric

Did Ibsen write in Danish or Norwegian? I know he's Norwegian by birth, but at the time he was writing Norway had only become independent of Denmark for a couple dozen years...

Kalevala i think, i haven't read it but thinking about it.

>>4541825
It doesn't matter really. Old norwegian is pretty much danish.

>>4540269
HUNGER HUNGER HUNGER HUNGER
lol jk i thought this book was really dull
what's his other one about the ski lodge or plantation or farm or something?

>>4541851

If, say, I were to learn Danish & eventually became fluent, would I be able to read Norwegian & Swedish lit?

>>4541876

>Hunger
>dull

what are you, a child or something?

>>4541881
Norwegian would be no problem at all.
Swedish MIGHT be a problem. There's some difference in words and sentence structure, but if you take your time to read the stuff in Swedish it shouldn't be a problem.

>>4541881
Most likely, yes.

Norwegian is very similar to Danish, and as for Swedish, we read like one or two Swedish novels in Danish high schools, so it's possible. Might have to look up a word or two though, every once in a while.

>>4541887
>>4541895

thanks, scandifriends

>>4541881
I'm danish and I can read norwegian without any trouble. A couple of words are different, but you can easily figure them out.
Swedish is harder, but you can manage it if you get used to it.

>>4541887
>>4541895
>>4541896
Hvad så, hvad læser I for tiden?

>>4541905
Intet. Blev færdig med Sult her for et par dage siden, så leder lidt efter en ny bog.

>>4541905
Jeg blev færdig med "Livet forstås baglæns - men må leves forlæns" (om Kierkegaard) for et par dage siden. Lidt usikker på, om jeg skal gå i gang med Enten-Eller, eller holde en kort pause og læse noget andet inden jeg går i gang.
Hvad er du selv i gang med?

>>4541911
[Spoiler] Prov Pan. Min personlige favorit af Hamsun

>>4541934
Lolita.
Den er bretty good.

Has anyone here read Mysteries by Knut Hamsun? Really liked Hunger and this looks interesting.

>>4541940

Pan er den smukkeste bog jeg har læst. Den er ligesom en dejlig pige, der smutter bort mellem hænderne. Og man kommer altid tilbage til den, fordi, ligesom tærepenge, så mætter den ikke uanset hvor mange gange man læser den. Den er ligesom det dybe vand; evindelig og besynderlig...

>Finland.

>Eino Leino (if his poems are translated).
No need to really explain further. The most influential poet from Finland by far.

>Vaino Linna
This guy is the fucking bomb.
The Unknown Soldier
Under the North Star

Two absolutely amazing books he wrote, TUS 10 years after the war on really touchy subject and UTNS after it - massive epic about the story of one family.

The novel follows the life of a Finnish family from 1880, through the First World War, the Finnish Civil War and the Second World War, to about 1950. Through the lives of ordinary people, it describes the clash of ideals in Finland's language strife and the struggle between the Whites (nationalists) and the Reds (socialists) in the movement to Independence and Civil War.

The novel shares one main character, Vilho Koskela, and covers some of the same events as another novel: The Unknown Soldier by the author.

If you'd need to read one book from Finland, this would be it. Fuck Kalevala. And the second book would be TUS.

>Timo K. Mukka
9 novels about the daily lives of people in northern Lapland. His life was tragic and he died at 30, scorned by everyone but his closest circle. Only after his death did the said critics realize his massiveness and influence to finnish literature.

Mika Waltari has probably been dropped already so I wont bother writing about him.


Read Leino and Linna from finnish literature if you ever bother.

It's a beauty, but odd.

>>4541994
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/mukka.htm

This is a nice read on Mukka's life.

This.
Also Ibsen, Hamsun and Jens Bjorneboe.

>>4541994
Mukka a shit. A SHIT

>>4542055
That is what they want you to believe :,)

>>4542023
I've got this in swedish, it reads like a Tao Lin book so I dropped it after a few chapters, might pick it up again some time.