/lit/ - Literature

>>4454789

Theres a reason why theres only a single nigger that has won a respectable nobel prize, its because they have ape brains and belong in the wilderness.

>>4454794
whoa you are really racist huh

>>4454789
James Baldwin usually works, try Giovanni's Room - one of my favorites.

>>4454799
Not him but most nigger writers are hugely asspained about race.

Race is a major theme in all those white books you like to read. You know, the ones where they're constantly marveling at the richness of their completely dead and staid inner lives.

>>4454847
I don't understand what you are trying to say with this comment. White people are boring?

>>4454847
lol what?

>>4454847
>implying marveling at the richness of their completely dead and staid inner lives is exclusive to white people
Most nigger novels are strictly about that only with DATS RACIZ covering everything.

Thinly veiled /pol/thread

They're subjected to hundreds of years of captivity, degradation, dehumanization, and social stigma and you're surprised this is a prevalent theme in the works most praised for their commentary on the human condition?

Malcolm X

>>4454883
Yes, they should stop whining about it.

>>4454888

Why? The Jews sure haven't.

>>4454883
This, why is it so wrong to get a little educated on the black struggle in America?

>>4454894

Because it doesnt matter, they are animals, its like reading an autobiography of a cow living on a farm only to be slaughtered when it reaches 2 years of age.

>>4454894

Because Obama won the election and signed a bill ending Racism forever.

Machado de Assis.

Try Dom Casmurro, Quincas Borba and Epitaph of a Small Winner.

>>4454883
Why isn't every Russian book about class and serfdom?

>>4454883
>you're surprised this is a prevalent theme in the works most praised for their commentary on the human condition?

Did I say I was surprised? I said I didn't relate to it, not that I didn't understand why it's such a prevalent theme. In the future you should avoid intentionally misinterpreting other people's comments, especially on race, which is a touchy subject already.

>>4454898
What matters instead?

Pushkin, Dumas, the list goes on...

>>4454900
>everyone can be president now!

>>4454906
A lot of them were?

>>4454903
>Dom Casmurro

The plot summary on Wikipedia seemed very promising, I will probably end up ordering this

>>4454883

those things have happened to every race

>>4455332
>this guy

>>4454883
>>4454894
These, really.

>Things Fall Apart

>>4455340

>thinking every race hasn't been enslaved at some point?

we just going to ignore history now?

>>4455350
has the majority of the world's entire black/african population had their ancestors enslaved/conquered/exploited at some point in relatively recent history and are they still suffering from the consequences? check

does the same apply to whites (god, what an idiotic category)? no

don't be stupid on purpose

>>4454789
Anything from Amos Tutuola.

Count of Monte Cristo

The Three Musketeers.

>>4455367
Didn't the greeks (non-whites) enslaved all of the tribes that grew up into what we know today as white?
faggot

>>4455367

Just so you know Africa is enormous, I doubt even a 5th of their population was ever enslaved.

>>4455427
i did say exploited or conquered; the whole of africa was colonised at the end of the 19th century, and, in a sense, this colonialism continues to the present day in form of economical imperialism. also, america is a different in this respect

>>4455438
>inb4 ethiopia

>>4455427
Simultaneously, I don't think so, although it got really close to it during the colonization era.

Wright's Outsider

>>4454789
Frantz Fanon is a black existentialist but his writings are ALL about race. Just applying Sartrean existentialism to the issue of race.

>>4454903
Machado ain't black. Afrocentrist faggotry
>>>/pol/

Why do you need to read books written by black people?
Just read good books written by people you racist.

>>4455547
I'm not racist. Some of my best friends were written by black people.

Machado de Assis.

Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler.

The Famished Road by Ben Okri

>>4455577
he was a quarter black and married a white woman, only americans would call the dude black

>>4454826
I wonder why

>>4454794

wow, its funny that you speaking about ape brains since you clearly have one.


>>4454808

Also, Baldwin is totally the shit. You should check out Samuel R. Delany if you like sci-fi or fantasy at all.

>>4455419
Greeks are white

>>4454898

3/10 and that cow's story would be interesting you fucking idiot

>>4454883
No reason to say that to OP, he's just making a request not even making any commentary on race or anything. No need to get easily offended, but it's a good point for >>4454826
>>4454872 these idiots.

>>4454789
OP, what about Alexandre Dumas? Guy who wrote Three Musketeers? He's mixed but the Brazilian guy someone else posted was only a fourth black.

And why are you looking for a book that meets such specific criteria? It's just a strange request

>>4455612
Well they're sole losers in the game of life.
Much like feminists.
If you were born for example a woman and unable to achieve as greatly as other people, you'd feel grief for not having the capacity to achieve.
Instead of looking up to these people who do better than you, you'd demand they be thrown down.
I've observed that some women who succeeded professionally, for example by building a business or leading it, have a tendency to laugh at the ideas of feminists. They want their efforts to be recognized as such, not to be thought of as by-products of governmental involvement.

>>4455658
Well I'd say we're all sore losers here, seems we could sympathize .

I mean you're either a racist or pretending to be trying to elicit a reaction from total strangers

And I am replying to you

Thomas Sowell.

Daily reminder that "white" just means "civilised", and blacks can be "white" just as much as any caucasian person can be.

Though of course plenty of good material has been written by blacks on the issues of their race and their oppression by others, it's just that the good stuff is a minority, and every single black artist or entertainer immediately resorts to race issues even if they have no talent or nothing worthwhile to say, so there's a lot of chaff.

>>4455620
>Greeks are white
heh

>>4455658
>I've observed that some women who succeeded professionally, for example by building a business or leading it, have a tendency to laugh at the ideas of feminists.
That's because today, feminist ideas are from sheltered babbies to sheltered babbies.

>>4455689
I'm trying not to be racist.
I've just noticed blacks usually don't achieve as high as westerners and asians.
Same goes with women, there are less high-achievers among women than among men. That's dependent on a socially-constructed definition of high-achiever of course.

In those cases you can either consider that the lesser-achieving group is less capable or that there is some kind of abuse from the upper-achieving group.
Feminists jump straight to the conclusion of abuse, I suppose those blacks who complain about westerners do the same.

I don't deny that sore losers are sometimes right. Not all blacks are sore losers either.

>>4455752
It's true.

>>4455752
You could also say that rich people aren't high achievers since most great art comes from the upper middle class. I don't think it's fair or even reasonable to try to determine a universal standard of achievement with something as broad as race.

Successful people often look down on people who want to change the system, but this isn't anything new. Rosa Bonheur had this attitude before feminism was even a coherent movement.

>>4455755
>pic
lel

>>4455818
>Rosa Bonheur had this attitude before feminism was even a coherent movement.
When has feminism been a coherent anything?

>>4455818
Yes achievement and success are arbitrary.
It even seems that the definition of intelligence depends on society's rulings.
If women were in charge, intelligence would be defined as the capacity to understand others, empathy, nurturing, traits that women are more likely to excel at.

I'm not saying we should determine an universal standard of achievement. It just seems that if you apply western standards of success to blacks or women, then they're underachievers.
It's not a bad thing necessarily. Only feminists and racists want to fix things like that.
Only racists care if the rulers are systematically non-blacks and only sexists care if there are more men than women in some position.

>>4454794
>>4454826

There's probably some good books by real Africans somewhere but I have a hard time believing Africans of the American variety have or will write anything worthwhile, ever.

>>4454906
This.
I have honestly never seen this argument so aptly and concisely put.

Space Aliens Land In The Ghetto by Douglas Green

>>4454826
I know!

They act as if people are still out there being racist, comparing them to apes and degrading them.


Oh wait...

>>4455890
Aren't eastern standards for success the same in essence than the western standards for success anyways?

>>4454856
moar like white people get rich and realize their just animals in more expensive wilderness.

>>4454872
says the guy with nothing but racist slurs on every post

>>4455620
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAH aaahhh

>>4456066
According to western scientific methods, eastern IQ is closer to that of westerners than blacks' IQ.

Traversée de la Mangrove by Maryse Condé. It's also available in English: Crossing the Mangrove.

Race doesn't play a huge part in the storyline, really. It's a pretty good read too- I really enjoyed it.

>>4455351
>Locusts= White men.
You dun goofed

>>4456107
I've known of millionaires that are unable to pass a fucking PISA test; I wasn't talking about IQs, I was talking about what defines a person as successful.
Hell, a lot of people here have high IQs and are still fucking losers.