/lit/ - Literature

>>4441178
Far better than endless maya.

how do you deal with the fact that the same exact post as yours been posted over and over again on /lit/ hundreds of times?

or pleasure collectors.

half glass full bitch

>>4441178

Sisyphus man

That doesn't sound so bad, honestly.

>>4441178
jesus fucking christ get this shit out of /lit/ there are literally 800 existential crisis threads made here every day and its always the same shit with pleb babby fuccbois treading the same philosophical ground for the trillionth time >muh feels >muh ego >le frown turned upside down sisyphus rock pushing mane spare this forum of your brittle and trite realization and do everyone else a favor and buy yourself a helium tank to get it all over with

>>4441210
is this pasta? saved

>How does /lit/ deal with the fact...

Do you think what you said is a fact?

>>4441216
no, oc. almost completely improvised. im pretty proud of myself for the line about sisyphus. might expand for the next time this thread comes up

>>4441183
to be fair the same threads always get posted over and over again on /lit/. This goes for all of 4chan. We're all just repeating ourselves.


Also fuck Garden State.

>>4441178
What else is there to do? Suicide at birth?

>>4441210

>>4441178
But I *do* know my purpose and 'why I am here'.

we are the universe, temporarily experiencing and observing itself.

someday we'll rejoin the unseeing fold and maybe that moment will be even more beautiful and profound than our strange, short lives.

>>4441178
hey guy, if you are going to cut yourself then remember to slice down the wrist not across or else you are just crying for help

>>4441178
To find/make a purpose in life.

For me, and I hope more as time goes by, to ease suffering for oneself and the community and learn how best to enjoy life in all its variety.

Long hours of meditation and occasionally self-immolation as political protest.

>>4441340
>just crying for help
>just

I hate this attitude. Fuck off. If someone hurts himself because he wants to get help and feels too ashamed or doesn't know how to ask for help any other way, what's wrong with that?

>le epic helium inhalation suicide method

when will this tyrannical accursed piece of shit meme be over

>>4441178
i think you didn't get the memo: you don't HAVE TO care, it's that simple

>>4441490
When you repent and embrace Stirnerist hedonism as the only true ideology.

>>4441506
Except one does have to care, if they feel so compelled. If your brain tells you to care, then you have to care. Unless you choose to shut off those feelings with chemicals or other distractions, there's no way to just stop feeling or thinking a certain thing.

>>4441178
I passed from Wille to Vorstellung.

>>4441178

Garden State was an awful, awful film and I absolutely despise Zach Braff.

>>4441178
What's there to deal with? It feels good, man.

>>4441428
i love you anon

>>4441515
>implying that over time your mind can't recircuit your brain by creating and diffusing neural connections

>>4441515
>muh internet neurosciences diploma
keep being deluded and jerking yourself off with depressive "realism"(top lel)

>>4441428
What's wrong with being so goddamn weak willed you can't even ask for help?

Everything.

>>4441537
>muh objective value system
kill you're self

Emergence of complex qualities from simple rules.

>>4441515
This nigga.

>>4441542
>muh morals
>muh ethical phosphorous
You do what works or what you feel like, the rest is just excuses.

>>4441545
>>4441535
I'm glad to see that you two are totally in control of your thoughts and feelings. I'm sure you can also control your heart-rate.

>>4441428

"Mum, I feel depressed"

It's really as easy as that. Of course, this method can be adjusted to suit anyone. For example:

"Dad, I feel depressed"
"Mr Psychotherapist, I feel depressed"
"Dog, I feel depressed"

There's always drugs. Plus your brain, aware of its existence and its end, comes with its own free drugs.

Personally though, my favorite way of dealing with it is usually by reading. You could try that.

>>4441552
what's the name of this disability, can't-control-muh-feeefeees-ism? are you trying to boost your victim cred, a feminist by any chance?

>>4441552
I glad to see you're a victim to your experiences

>>4441556
>"Mum, I feel depressed"
>"Get over it."
It's not an unusual response. Sometimes you have to take drastic measures in order to be taken seriously. A depressed brain is not a rational one, so expecting a depressed individual to make rational choices is ridiculous.

Plus, most people aren't edgy experts on suicide. If they want to die and make a choice that they think will cause them to die, the fact that they survive does not mean they were pathetic or not serious about dying.

>>4441515
But there are reverse tinkerbell effects. Ever noticed you were doing or feeling a certain way, which stopped it immediately? Oh shit, I'm being a dumb ass you think, you laugh and do something different.

That happens because some parts of the brain can shut off others.

>>4441565
>muh free will
>2014

>>4441189
This.

Revolt against the absurd. Go make some art.

>>4441594
>1435
>not understanding the concept of free will

>>4441594
oh you must keep your quantum calculator in your pocket then

>>4441568
If you are OP
If you are depressed
If you are therefore irrational
What do you expect from us?

If someone has to deal so hard with this situation, which is only a point of view, it hurts him, he's irrational. And if we are irrational, there's no "how".

Strange question, OP.

>>4441624
You can't quantum your way into being an unmoved mover, anon.

>>4441639
I am not the OP, I'm just defending people in his position/depressive individuals in general.

>>4441645
But on the topic of free will, the moving forces are so quantified and variable that the mathematics are irrelevant. You're doomed in this life if you think you hold no weight in the decisions you make.

>>4441641
>2014
>he hasn't heard about quantum phenomena yet

>>4441645
sorry

>>4441641
>>4441654

>>4441654
How is one doomed?

>>4441178
I just loop this video for a couple of hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqTocV2qhWI

>>4441210
>forum

>>4441680
too subjective

>>4441693
*nonsensical

>>4441700
>implying there's only one type of failure

rot in your pseudo-intellectual vapidity

>>4441715
>implying implications

right back at you girlfriend

>>4441210
Existential crisis is a stepping stone into higher literary endeavors. People getting tired of getting the same 'just be happy' answers by everyone they try to have a serious conversation with. Through a book you can have a great lengthy conversation with yourself, mediated through the book. So cut the hipster crap mate. These people deserve some answers through suggestions of decent literature. Go to other threads instead.

>>4441718
you can be homeless or you can be spiritually unsound and miserable on your death bed

there's 2. it's no longer an implication. and I'll reiterate for convenience that "failure" is subjective to the definer

I deal with it by realizing that "feelings" and all of that emotivistic bullshit aren't worth my time dwelling on. I'm too smart and too busy to waste my time on that.

>>4441740
>you can be homeless or you can be spiritually unsound and miserable on your death bed
What does either one of these things have to do with the other?

>>4441719
word on the streets

preach nigga

>>4441750
>I'm too smart and too busy to waste my time on that.
But apparently just dumb and idle enough to waste your time on the same imageboard as people who are still bogged down by their worthless feelings.

>>4441178
The only reason this is a bad thing is because we still contrast it with an illusionary better thing. Once you realise there is only this thing and the other thing never existed, you get used to how things are and the feeling of panic and crisis will reside until you're properly adapted to your new world-view as default.

It's not very different from the adjustment one makes after finding out that Santa doesn't exist, just more all-encompassing and rigorous.

>>4441749
nothing is the point, other than they can both be considered failures

ref
>>4441715
>>4441718

>insignificant
how? if it is by comparison to the whole, we would certainly have to make significant distinctions between /lit/ and the whole to divide one into two.
>biological pain collectors
while electrical impulse might be simple will to life as we contend ourselves to possess, and therefore hold the potential for being biological in this sense, we are particularly poor collectors for such energies. we're like the R14 battery of even those entities we would traditionally ascribe some life force. perhaps a different signifier of difference might be more significant of /lit/ supposed difference to the whole.
>spiraling down
would it matter if it were more, say, a sausage like helix, which was as likely in the horizontal position as any other
>cease to be
if being is as such above, we never can. if we are insignificantly divided from the whole, the whole must cease to be. if our difference is significant from the whole by the order you describe, our difference from the whole is negated by cessation of such signifiers, and again we would have to cause the whole to cease to be
>without a proper cause of why we are rather than living on instinct
no wonder you can't into discretion when your dichotomies are all fucked up, let alone orders of difference.

>>4441178
learn to dance, enjoy music, realize everyone's a piece of shit so there's no reason to hate sluts or whore or douchebags and realize that anyone can be your friend in the right circumstances. Then you need to check yourself with a diary and write down what bothers you, address it, new friends, realize people who aren't your friends, stop letting girls use you as an emotional tampon without dating you. Respect yourself for the person you're going to become, have a plan. stop playing video games and masturbating all day to let your body chemicals normalize and realize you're a lot better at talking to girls without an insanely fucked-up body-chemistry from all that bullshit
then you start benching and break the 225 barrier and be a beefcake.
There's nothing to it but to do it, if you have a high IQ or seek something intellectually stimulating well you have writing, just stop being a cunt.
Also don't forget, nobody plans to fail, they just fail to plan.
also /fit/

>>4443810
>fucked up body chemistry
I didn't think I would find this pseudo-science on /lit/

>>4443861
the mind is part of the body nerd

>>4443867
no shit, you retarded virgin.

I meant this bullshit about blaming video games and masturbating on you not being able to talk to women

>>4443861
Stop it, you'll raise his toxin levels to a volatile level.

I am reminded of Kierkegaard's work in moments like these. He posited that love and knowledge of spirit binds the temporal with the infinite. One of the few things I could say that I truly believe.

Benevolence of heart is what we must aspire to, OP. This board can be a shitty place. But deep down we all know that we here are brothers in seeking. Some of us see the realities of day to day life as indifferent and cruel, as not living up to the beauty we once thought possible in youth, and it makes us disillusioned.

But growing is understanding the struggle. You cannot understand hope without understanding the struggle. Hope is not something that can exist outside of it. It is the star you must follow at times when guidance is needed. We all can help one another find our paths through the existence we share together, but in the end that path is ours alone to walk.

You must endeavor to do good works, and strive towards benevolence towards others and within yourself. Then you will have a knowing repose.

>>4443874
it's more the internet, masturbating fucks up your mind though in terms of pleasure-associations, if you jerk off don't do it to porn. The internet is just a conversational capacity thing, video games just keep you up all night from adrenaline so you can't go to sleep and then you have to deal with sleep problems and that messes up ur body chemistry 2
why are you so buttmad?

>>4443867

>video games leaving long-term chemical impact on our bodes
>no

>>4443886
>2010+4
>People still believe this shit

>>4443906
>2014 talking about philosophy instead of working on getting laid

lets see you back that up, I never experienced any of this.

Why are you so buttmad I called you a retarded virgin? Did that strike a nerve?

Take your pick, OP.

>>4443920
>misrepresentation of hedonism
>oversimplification of religion
>Nietzsche
plebbiest chart of 2014

>>4441178
suicide, though nihilism isn't my reason...
Tubings finally arrive today. (helium exit bag method)

You are what you perceive. You are what you occupy your mind with. We don't only collect pain, there is no inevitable end. Every question that starts with "why" has the answer "why not", but its "what" that matters.

-jesus christ your lord and savior

>>4441178
Get off 4chan entirely. Coming from a hypocrite, yours truly. However, I was linked to this place so I won't be around for long.

Get off the internet or learn how to use it.

Let me tell you how I quit thinking about nihilism in a depressing sense. How I began to think of it in an intriguing sense.
One day young anon, 6 years ago, when he was 14, realized when he dies, he will eventually be forgotten.

Nihilism implies nothingness. And nothing is something I don't believe in, nor exists. While life may seem devoid of meaning, this is false. It exists somewhere and it is wholly unknown.

Let me tell you what consequently led me to this sadness. The majority of people live life without focus. Their attention spans are pathetic. "Hence a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention" - Hebert Simon

PEOPLE ARE LIVING in a CESSPOOL of distractions. They MISTAKE this for DEPRESSION. They are actually bored and continuing to think these distractions will help them kill boredom. No. It prolongs it. It can be a painful withdrawal time from these so called necessities, but you feel powerful when you no longer use them. Examples of these distractions are the internet, television, social nonsense, liquor, and sometimes even books. Now a counterargument can say even if I break free from these chains, it is only deceiving myself of worthiness. You have to embrace the fact you are in a world of forces that will assail you. Get over it. If you don't want to, end your life. What is the purpose of asking to cope without purpose if there is no purpose, OP?

Scientists call life a mistake sometimes. What a shame. Carl Sagan once questioned why scientists like to put people down, why they like to murder the love of us. How could scientist, whom live by empirical standards, suddenly use a human idea to explain the result of forces? They are speaking bullshit. So is your mind. Control your thoughts, it isn't hard.

Now I'm not asking you to live by euphemism, but to quit asking those retarded as fuck questions, in THAT way. Because I still ask existentialist questions constantly. Nor am I asking you to live in happiness, as I don't give a fuck about it. If you are weak and your emotions overpower you, then shoot for happiness.

I live to search and submerge into the unknown.
“The most thought-provoking thing in our thought-provoking time is that we are still not thinking.” - Martin Heidegger

Start thinking, boyo.

>>4444150
Damn.

>cease to be
Nope.

>>4441210
>fuccboi
You're the crossie and we can tell because you're so angry about nothing.

>>4444150
This website is not tumblr.
Please go.

>>4444150
>Nihilism implies nothingness. And nothing is something I don't believe in, nor exists. While life may seem devoid of meaning, this is false. It exists somewhere and it is wholly unknown.
Kek.

>>4441178
by shagging you are mom <:^)

>>4441766

Yes.

I think a large part of adjusting to adulthood for me has honestly been living in a shitty cockroach house and trying to support myself and my hobbies simultaneously.

Murdering fairly complex insects with nervous systems in gruesome ways every day also makes cruelty easier for me.

I never take pleasure in it though, and only engage when necessary.

I Insanely Brutally Murder Thousands Of Biologically Complex Organisms With Kitchen Knives And Bug Spray

>>4441178
uh, I dont think about it that way... Maybe thats how I deal with it.

>>4441568
>"Mum, I feel depressed"
>"Get over it."
thats actually a pretty good response, i dont know what you are complaining about

>>4447430
>Murdering fairly complex insects with nervous systems in gruesome ways every day also makes cruelty easier for me.

I´m gonna use that line in my book if you don´t mind.

by doing hallucinogenic drugs
seriously, I did acid a few times and it gave me an inner peace that transferred over to my standard sober life
then I did DMT and I realised how potentially amazing post-life can be, so much so that I no longer really fear death, and that has given me the will to live because although death may be potentially amazing, when there are things to explore and learn, I may as well until that time comes.

>>4441178

I injured myself in the neck so I feel like absolute shit now. Can't focus now like I could before the injury and have constant headaches and neck pain. Think it might also have induced tinnitus.

Anyway, this has set me free. Since my symtoms will get worse I long for an early death as soon as I feel like I can't lead a proper life. I believe death is what truly sets you free, it will be just like the fourteen billion years before my birth which I have not lived.

Until then, whatever happens, happens. Enjoy the good parts of life, classic literature, classicalal music (Rubensteins interpretations Chopin is a personal favorite to escape from reality), the natural sciences and the little pristine nature yet to be destroyed by humans.

>>4441178
By not being an enormous pussy.