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So what would Freud say about the popularity of futanari? Jung? Lacan?

I want to see the issue from a psychoanalytic perspective.

>> No.4402591

There was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4

Apparently men really like cocks. Even straight men.

I'd suck a trap's dick but she has to pass perfectly and identify as female, which doesn't exist. Maybe Bailey Jay in her prime, actually, I'd do that.

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>>4402591

There is so much to show you, anon, and so little time.

>> No.4402600

>>4402591
Ugh, that's the opposite of what I'm looking for. That study didn't even factor in the word "pussy" because it showed gay results too much. Anyway, it doesn't say WHY so many men are into futa nowdays, just that they are. The rest of Ogas' theory is purely speculative.

I'm really, really sick of evo-psych pretending it has all the answers, and Heidegger would be too.

Again, I want a psychoanalytic perspective, not a psychological one.

Sorry for my tone.

Also, Bailey Jay is one of the most masculine traps in the world today. You can do much better than her.

>> No.4402603

>>4402597
Confirmed as fake.

>> No.4402607

>>4402600

there was some good discussion in this thread

http://fuuka.warosu.org/lit/thread/S4326901#p4327038

(linking you to the post where it starts)

>> No.4402614

>>4402591
>Implying it's Gay to suck a girl's penis

>> No.4402615

>>4402600

But anon, psychoanalysis is one of the great sophistries of the century. Why would you care about it? This is a matter for science, not poetry.

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>>4402607
Holy shit.
>mfw that's my post
/lit/'s a small board, isn't it?

>> No.4402631

>>4402615
Your form needs work. You almost got me though.

>> No.4402638

>>4402631
This kind of post in response to something that is acknowledged as true by so many people is always bewildering.

People handwaving psychoanalysis into the garbage is like 98% of current discussion of psychonalysis, whether or not you think your esoteric appreciation of it is it the light and truth.

>> No.4402640

>>4402607
Also, how do we account for women who like futa? They do exist.

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>>4402640

Penis evny, duh.

>> No.4402644

>>4402586

I read in /hm/ that anal sex is a male bonding behavior that increases survivability the more likely it is to occur. We've evolved to like it up the ass.

I'm a top, though. I'd only ever bottom for someone I love, and even then not often, nor do I enjoy it.

>> No.4402653

>>4402642
Ok, then what is it that drives men to futa?

>> No.4402654

>>4402642
Naw, that's just weeaboos.

>> No.4402655

>>4402607

I like this theory. Men understand what a penis feels like so if they see a girl with a penis, they can understand exactly how and why she feels good when she rubs it. It makes the character more empathetic.

>> No.4402658

>>4402654
Female weebs are usually into yaoi, get your facts right

>> No.4402661

>>4402644
>nor do I enjoy it.

You never got it good, boy.

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is /lit/ getting gayer?

>> No.4402675

This thread is now about what books would be titled if they were titled in the spirit of the OP picture

>The Story of a Man Who Shoots Someone for No Reason and Goes On Trial, but Doesn't Really Care

>> No.4402687

>>4402675
John dies at the end

It's a joke title thing that's no longer funnny

>> No.4402688

>>4402586
Freud talks about the futanari in the small hans article about him discovering sexual difference.

The futanari represents for the neurotic the perfect woman (complete) and a way to deny sexual difference. Sexual difference is denied by the pervert because it produces anxiety of castration. The reasoning is "who cares if I will be castrated, even if I become a woman I can still have a phallus like the futanari does."

Lacan would add:

1) The denial of sexual difference reassures the neurotic that the sexes are compatible. I.e. there can be a sexual relationship. Basically that women are just like men, that he knows perfectly well what they want and that he can be loved back in the same way he loves them.

2) The castration fear turns into fear that the woman wants to steal your phallus (vagina dentata). The neurotic does not trust women because they are lacking,

3) Obsessive are facilitated by futanari because they can love the phallus in place of the other. The obsessive always prefers the part over the whole, and the phallus makes it easy for them to concentrate on the object. He thinks "She may dump me, but I can easily find another phallus just like hers." Naturally the fact that the phallus is an excessive part, an addendum, makes it easier to detach it (unlike it happens in other men, that is why lovers of futanari often don't consider themselves gay but straight).

>> No.4402701

>>4402688
Sums up /b/pol/

>>4402662
Just invaders.

>> No.4402709

>>4402701
Solid posting, Sarah.

>> No.4402714

>>4402688
Now this is something I have never heard before! Do you believe in what you have said, or are you just trying to add to the conversation?

>> No.4402733

>>4402709
Solid (hardon) thread Anonymous

>>4402714
You don't believe it? A board of mostly males, straight, rightwing, OBSESSED with penis.

Once Christianity does wane out we'll have a lot of gay and bi boys palling around again. ...Natures way for population control I guess.

>> No.4402736

>>4402733

I'm male, straight, leftwing, and obsessed with penis

what do you say to that huh

>> No.4402740

>>4402658
Futa girls are just girls with elaborate feeldos
And who uses those besides straight pegging couples?

Get your kinks straight.

>> No.4402743

>>4402733
I don't get what you're trying tosay

>> No.4402744

>>4402740
Huh?

Female weebs dont play that futa shit (by and large), they're into dudes bangin dudes, yaoi

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>>4402736
>what do you say to that huh
Nothing mean.
I was just razzing the /pal/sys

>> No.4402749

>>4402748
is that u

do u wanna cyber

>> No.4402750

>>4402586


part of it is related to the reasons people like furry.

penises are visceral, furry features are visceral. its aesthetic is more suited to those with less imaginative capacity, where 'finer'/more cerebral methods of characterization are lost upon them.

what else can be said of futa? of course theres the fetishistic aspect that comes from transgressing internalized norms. in this sense, we could say the futa represents a sense of 'having your cake and eating it too', to indulge in phallic fantasies while assuming a feminine mode. the other idea here is basically 'more is better', to recall the earlier point on more visceral characterization (see also, mary sue ocs with ten wings, heterochromia, dual weilding, and et cetera).

>> No.4402751

>>4402750
>to indulge in phallic fantasies while assuming a feminine mode.

But many people who like futa would not want to be futa themselves. I think I may be misinterpreting you here, though.

>> No.4402753

>>4402748


more like youre projecting.

>> No.4402754

>>4402743
Several things. Bad habit.

>>4402744
Implying lesbian weebs

>> No.4402756

>>4402714
I find some parts more credible than others.
Especially I believe in Lacan's parts. I believe that relationships between subjects are radically asymmetric and that certain fetishes help us overcome those anxieties.

>> No.4402758

>>4402751


i dont think you quite understand. for instance, most men who have sex with women dont do it because they want to be women (or because the women want to be men), nameen?

>> No.4402759

>>4402743
Vague leftist bullshit.

>> No.4402760

>>4402750
That sounds like a lot of bullshit. Exactly how is futa or furry "unimaginative" just because it's more "visceral" (whatever that means)

>> No.4402765

I submit the popularity of futa may also be related to the fact that society expects "pure" women not to enjoy sex. Since some men find a sexual woman repulsive but are still attracted to feminine features, they need some way to make the women un-women while retaining those feminine traits.

Where is my MacArthur genius grant

>> No.4402768

>>4402760


im saying stuff like furry has more relative appeal TO the unimaginative BECAUSE its characterizations are more visceral, things that are easier to conceptualise (ie, it is another matter entirely to try and characterize and differentiate, say, a clan of archetypical dorfs who all look alike, such things would involve more nuance by necessity, its not 'ready made' evocative elements like fox ears or star fur).

>> No.4402770

>>4402768

That's stupid. All porn, even non-fetishistic porn, hinges on "ready-made" tropes. The wanton cougar, the ingenue girl-next-door, the naughty teacher, the sexy nurse.

>> No.4402772

>>4402765
>society expects "pure" women not to enjoy sex.
I think those times have long passed us by. Female enjoyment of sex is now mainstream, maybe you meant active pursuit of sex? And the phallus just represents male desire? I think sexuality is more personal than that.

>> No.4402776

>>4402772
>I think those times have long passed us by.

Not really. The kind of basement dwelling weeb who's into futa is likely the same kind of person who has a waifu and bitches about impure sluts, just look at 4chan.

>> No.4402777

>>4402688
This, I think, is the most knowledgeable response in the thread.

>> No.4402781

>>4402776
Oh, so it's not society that creates futa, it's people who want to repress womens' sexuality, and they use futa as an outlet for their sexuality. But why futa? Why not black chicks or something? Shouldn't a penis on a girl be repulsive?

>> No.4402790

>>4402781
The penis make the futanari's desire for sexual release acceptable. Only a man can desire sex in their view.

And why don't they find penises repulsive? Well, this kind of psychopathic hatred of women leads to some... interesting results. If you ever stop by /a/, tell them you think vaginas are attractive. You'll get billions of replies of people telling you you're crazy, image macros of people vomiting, etc. Also don't fail to check out their almost daily cock lust/gay ERP threads.

>> No.4402809

>>4402790
So where does this stilted view of femininity come from, and what is the solution?

>> No.4402812

>>4402809
>So where does this stilted view of femininity come from

Social isolation leading to limited contact with actual women, in combination with bullying and a worldview formed by media depictions of women as lying manipulators

>and what is the solution?

the cleansing power of fire

>> No.4402819

>>4402812
So how would contact with actual women help these people?

>> No.4402823

>>4402770


youre misunderstanding, the difference between a 'wanton cougar', 'hot teacher', or 'sexy nurse', are still to a larger degree more cerebral. the form is more or less fungible, what makes them different? the thought, word, and deeds.

>> No.4402826

>>4402819
It wouldn't anymore. They've doubled down too much on their status as pariahs. You know when "normalfag" gets thrown around as a pejorative you're in crazytown.

>>4402823

Straight men who watch porn tend to have very certain wheelhouses. Big tits or small tits, blonde hair or brunette, blowjobs or anal. All porn reduces all participants to a few easy categories of scenario and physical trait. I see no particular reason furry, futanari, or any other fetish for that matter is special in this regard.

>> No.4402830

>>4402826

And to elaborate, all the scenario-specific stuff (naughty teacher, sexy nurse, etc. etc.) are tropes present in futanari porn as well.

>> No.4402833

>>4402826
No, no, I mean if these people had been around women at a younger age, how would that have changed them?

>> No.4402836

>>4402833

I don't know.

How much of a social pariah's problems are nature and how much a result of external factors?

Your boilerplate "basement-dweller" is that way because they failed to form a healthy social life, but this is in turn because they're sullen, awkward, incapable of picking up on cues, and so forth. So if they were forced into more social situations early on, would that be different? Who can say? But there's certainly a point of no return, and many 4channers are way past it.

>> No.4402842

>>4402836
This invective helps nobody.

>> No.4402847

>>4402826


>I see no particular reason furry, futanari, or any other fetish for that matter is special in this regard.

because its a question of degrees obviously, that you cant seem to grasp this is making me think youre really just mad im calling your taste in fap material shit.

>> No.4402848

l think it's fully natural for men to obsess over dicks as it's their most driving and important member. lt's like wooing over cars or guitars if they are important to your lifestyle. Dicks are a part of all our lifestyle.

Straight men jerking off to this shit l feel is a combination of safety and sexual freedom. lt has the same appeal as the idea of fucking your sister freely, for some. They're afraid to find strange women and look for these 'safe' subjects.

l'd wager this is 90% a virgin thought process.

>> No.4402852

>>4402848
You mean 90% of people attracted to futa are virgins?

>> No.4402859

>>4402830


thats pretty much the point though, you dont necessarily *need* certain features to fulfill certain tropes (let alone deeper levels of characterization). but for people whos grasp eludes such things, so to speak, adding extra dicks, muzzles, or tails is a simple way to 'spice things up' over the seemingly mundane median.

>> No.4402864

>>4402847
>because its a question of degrees obviously

What an empty phrase. You haven't done anything to specify what it is that makes a penis or fur any more "visceral" or "easier to conceptualize" than blonde hair, shaved pussies, big tits, etc. etc.

The whole idea is total nonsense. And now you're resorting to ad hominem (you're just mad!!) because someone is calling you out.

>> No.4402878

>>4402859

What deep level of characterization is there in normal porn that there isn't in futanari? How does needing to see a penis to get off mean someone is "unimaginative" whereas needing to see a vagina doesn't?

Your whole argument is nothing but circular reasoning, special pleading, and a good deal of gibberish.

You're a lot less intelligent than you think you are.

>> No.4402879

>>4402864


a penis or fur is more visceral than, say, 'acts like a an archetypical milf'. your continued misunderstanding of this point implies youre either being purposely disingenuous because the implications offend your ego, or youre simply stupid.

>> No.4402881

>>4402878
Insults won't move anything forward

>> No.4402883

>>4402852
of straight men, yes that is my resentful estimate.

>> No.4402884

>>4402879

How is a penis "more visceral" than a vagina?

>> No.4402887

>>4402884


again youre trying to strawman features vs features. you clearly lack the capacity to participate in this debate, as expected of a futa lover.

>> No.4402890

>>4402887
STOP INSULTING EACH OTHER. BE CIVIL. PLEASE

>> No.4402893

>>4402887

>I can't answer his questions, better call him stupid and declare myself the winner

>> No.4402894

>>4402890


people like that form opinions based on validation, if you dont use insults, they wont change their mind.

>> No.4402896

>>4402893


>if 2+2 really equals 4, then prove that a tea pot is orbiting the sun

this is you.

>> No.4402903

>>4402896
>tea pot orbiting the sun
le russell face

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>>4402903


im the cleverest.

>> No.4402907

>>4402894

You have completely failed to define your terms or respond to any question. You just keep restating your premise over and over again as if this will make it true.

What is a "visceral" trait and what is a "cerebral" trait, in pornography?

Why does needing to see a penis, or furry skin, or any other fetish trait differ from people who need to see any other more normal physical trait? How does one imply a person is "unimaginative" while the other does not?

How do you respond to the fact that futanari and furry porn contain all the other "fungible" tropes of normal porn, with only a couple physical traits modified? Scenarios and characters in these genres are equally diverse as in normal porn.

And are you implying that gay people are stupider than straight people?

>> No.4402912

>>4402907


think of it this way.

how much characterization can you do with a single image, compared to a series?

for one, pretty much all you have to go by are visual (ie, visceral) traits.

i trust this is simple enough for you to understand.

>> No.4402917

>>4402912

What does that have to do with anything?

There are plenty of futanri- and furry-themed (and other fetish-themed) comics, videos, games, etc. And there are plenty of single images of normal porn.

Answer the questions I put to you.

>> No.4402919

>>4402906
I read that in Harold Bloom's voice.

>> No.4402922

>>4402917


>What does that have to do with anything?

man youre dense

to start with, whats 'fungible' refers to the form, not the tropes (really, you have a big problem with conflation).

and no, at this point im implying that YOU are stupid, if you happen to, in fact, be a furry, then thats expected, and if youre also gay, then i guess thats a strike against gays (sorry other gays, but by their fruits and all that).

>> No.4402923

>>4402754
dude, even lesbian weebs are into yaoi

I know a lot of lesbian weebs that prefer yaoi for their porn. Also look around the internet and you will find a shit ton of lesbian artists who mainly draw/write yaoi, as far as porn goes at least. I shit you not. I literally know zero lesbian weebs who really enjoy futa, though. Sure, they exist, but in number comparison to the ones who prefer yaoi.......

there is no escape

>> No.4402931

>>4402922
>to start with, whats 'fungible' refers to the form

The form of the futanari/furry is equally as fungible as the form of a normal woman or normal man. There are many things that can be altered and some things that are constant.

For a futanari, the constant is that they have a penis and a vagina. For a biological woman, the constant is that they have a vagina. These traits cannot be changed (by definition), but everything else can.

So how is needing to see penis+vagina any different than needing to see a normal woman with only a vagina?

And if you have nothing against gays, why do you think attraction to penises implies something negative?

You keep running away from these questions. Please actually answer the questions I have put to you.

>> No.4402932

>>4402931


but a futanari is *not* fungible with a baseline man or woman, thats the whole point (to say nothing of furry).

>> No.4402935

>>4402932
>but a futanari is *not* fungible with a baseline man or woman

What you've said here is literally meaningless.

Please answer the questions I have put to you.

>> No.4402937

>>4402935


more like you wish it was meaningless.

>> No.4402939

>>4402937

You can't answer a couple simple questions. Limp insults aren't going to cover that up. Maybe you should reexamine what you think.

>> No.4402942

>>4402939


>>4402912
>>4402859

>> No.4402949

>>4402942

>>4402912
Futanari, furry, and other fetish porn is often serialized and often contain characters with these "deeper" levels of characterization you have referred to. They are not just single images. And plenty of normal porn does come in single images. What's the difference?

>>4402859
A woman in straight porn needs a vagina and breasts to fulfill the fantasy. A futanari in futanari porn needs a penis and a vagina to fulfill the fantasy. What's the difference?

You still can't answer a single question. The more you go in circles, flee from these questions, and insult, the weaker your argument appears.

>> No.4402953

>>4402949


'whats the difference' he plaintively mewls.

the difference is, how much do you need the visceral traits?

for the less imaginative, a good deal more.

>> No.4402962

>>4402953

You need the "visceral trait" of a vagina. A futanari fan needs the "visceral trait" of a penis and a vagina. If you think there's an inherent difference here, you're going to need to explain exactly what it is. You're also going to need to explain how one necessarily reflects badly on how "imaginitive" someone is, and how this somehow doesn't also mean gay men fall into the same category of "unimaginative."

Otherwise you're just committing some pretty obvious special pleading. A certain type of porn grosses you out, so you're trying to backwards reason negative traits onto the people who enjoy it.

>> No.4402972

>>4402962


of course theres an 'inherent difference'. certainly one can think of the vagina as a complex piece of work, with many nooks and bits to explore and utilize. but you cant really tell just by looking can you? basically a rough patch of bifurcated skin more or less.

but the penis? now thats in your face and on display, sure there might not be much more than meets the eye, but what an eyeful. much more, *visceral*.


go to any thread on /d/ on the subject, they'll tell you the same thing.

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>>4402972

What a colossal load of horseshit. And even granting this asinine premise, futanari have vaginas too, so it's not like the addition of a penis can remove that so-called complexity.

Guess you think gay men are unimaginative too.

>> No.4402977

>>4402976


they dont just have vaginas, they have dicks too! thats like, twice as good! (see how this works).

also, you should look up what 'special pleading' actually means (your attempt to drag in gays to divert from your butt devastation is a perfect example).

>> No.4402985

>>4402977

You're the one declaring futanari to somehow be a special case of preference in genitalia. You have still yet to explain exactly why.

Bringing gay men into the argument is perfectly relevant. The difference between a futanari and a biological woman is a penis. If this attraction to a penis makes someone unimaginative, that must surely go for gay men too, right? If not, why not?

>> No.4402993

>>4402985


you need to realise that futa (if we can indeed call it futa, and not something else) is ALWAYS in a feminine mode, by your own admission. the dick is pretty much a cherry on top (hence, we can see how futa is more or less a 'strait' male fantasy). you dont seem to realise then then that yaoi basically proves my point also. what features are there on a man to more viscerally titilate, without tits also? moreover, the focus in boys love is often all about character interaction, what sex there is is usually saved for the finale.

which brings us back to the original point, futa is basically about having your cake and eating it too. which is attractive to certain kinds of people (like yourself).

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>>4402993
>you need to realise that futa (if we can indeed call it futa, and not something else) is ALWAYS in a feminine mode

What does that mean? Futanari are in a "masculine mode" as well. They perform penetrative intercourse. It's just as easy to say the vagina and breasts are the "cherry on top" as vice-versa. Nevertheless, how does that type of fantasy differ from a man who needs, say, the cherry on top of very large breasts, or glasses, or red hair?

>what features are there on a man to more viscerally titilate, without tits also?

Plenty. Your entire viewpoint reeks of a straight male unable to comprehend other types of attraction.

>which brings us back to the original point, futa is basically about having your cake and eating it too.

Meaningless. You divide all fantasies into "phallic fantasies" and "feminine fantasies" as if other methods of categorization could not exist, and then declare that since futanari fulfills both types -- this now makes the futanari fan "unimaginative" (nice leap of logic).

>which is attractive to certain kinds of people (like yourself).

I'm really more into "traps."

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>>4403002


>What does that mean?

it means they are not really perceived as masculine obviously.

>Plenty.

which is not the point however. tits, like dicks, are 'out there', more visceral objects (and more is better, right?).


why do you think i used 'phallic fantasies' instead of 'masculine'? because i was implying that part of futa is basically an outlet for some to enjoy a love and appreciation of cock without (or perhaps because of) cognitive dissonance. if they wanted masculine, they wouldent really be into futa.


>traps

thats somewhat better, but ur still a faget.

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>>4403007
>which is not the point however. tits, like dicks, are 'out there', more visceral objects

This is so silly and arbitrary. Muscles, body hair, plump rears, long necks, bony physiques, and much more are all equally "visceral" and equally titillating aspects of the male form (to varying degrees for different people. Some go full bara some go full twink).

What you've done is just randomly declare what is more visceral and then base your entire view on that, with no proper explanation of why.

>ur still a faget.

I don't think of myself as gay, straight, or bi, or anything in between. I like what I like. Pussy and dick are both incredibly beautiful, each in their own ways. The same goes for the male and female forms. Only true plebs think otherwise.

The more we argue the more I become convinced that you're some milquetoast straight dude who just wants to put the standard male/female sexual interaction on some kind of pedestal by declaring it more "cerebral."

>> No.4403017

*farts on your thread*

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>>4403013


i would agree that those things you say are finer, that was basically the original point of this farce with the furry comparison (lack of aptitude in characterization includes also artistic capacity, who needs detailed anatomy when you can just throw on a bunch of different macro features?).


sure, others can have different tastes than mine, but that simply means their tastes are inferior.

>> No.4403027

Dicks are beautiful to me, and vaginas gross me out. I love the smell, taste, feel of the penis, but I also appreciate the smooth skin and femininity. Nowadays, when more and more men have less bodily hair or shave it, you can have both very easily, and I'm not even talking about transsexuals (not very attracted to them).

Of course, there's also the big psychological factor to me, because I can understand a man and how he feels while women intimidate me and I feel lazy to put in the effort of making myself appealing to them.

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>>4403026

There are plenty of great futanari artists. I don't know much at all about the furry fandom, but it's hard to imagine such a large fandom could exist without at least a few skilled artists amongst the ranks.

In any case, all this art simulates an idealized form, which is the real fantasy. These fantasies also include those more "cerebral" aspects of character and scenario in addition to form, in many if not most cases. You can't judge the nature of the fantasy by the quality of the worst artwork.

And I'm not saying your subjective tastes are wrong, but if you don't want to ravage this: >>4403013 you're dead inside. Dead. Those thighs. Those collar bones. That fucking chest. Goddamn, son. You must be some kinda fag or something.

>> No.4403040

>>4403037
Relax buddy, and post some real males to drool over

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>>4403040

Do you mind if I post some real males in girly clothes to drool over?

Cause that's what I got.

>> No.4403048

>>4403043
That's fine by me.

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>>4403048

Cool beans.

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>>4403051

We can't know for sure what Freud would say about this, but modern scholars agree it might go something like: "unf unf"

>> No.4403054

I thought /lit/ was all-anti gay. This thread was interesting.

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>>4403053

Scientists agree: traps are 2cute

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>>4403037


>such a large fandom could exist without at least a few skilled artists amongst the ranks.

'NAxALT', assuming exceptions disprove the rule is rather solipsistic reasoning.

and incidentally, it just so happens that the 'idealized fantasy' vis. futa is that balloon tits+forearm cock is more the norm, than exception (since you know, macro features, attract certain people, im sure you get it by now).


*could* there be good works utilizing futa, or furry? sure, but realistically speaking, its not as likely.

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>>4403056
>'NAxALT', assuming exceptions disprove the rule is rather solipsistic reasoning.

Sturgeon's Law. 99% of everything is shit. You're just arguing from a position of ignorance, really.

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>>4403061

Anyway, I don't know how far along the gradient of male-female physique that other guy wanted to see. There are things to admire at all points.

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>>4403061


>cant know nuthin

damn dirty nominalists

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>>4403069

Sissyboys are olev though, in any case.

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>>4403076

Too bad it's a blue board. Most of my good stuff's got throbbing trap dick in it.

>> No.4403128

>>4403043
>1387970305830.jpg
>RIP in peace

>> No.4403134

>>4403069
I prefer moderately feminine guys in male clothing, so traps are not my preference. They're still hot, but masculinity is still hot and I don't like traps who completely deny it for being a girl with cock.

>> No.4403140

>>4403076
muwt???

>> No.4403228

>>4402591
Just because a bunch of closeted polysexuals identify as straight doesn't make liking dickgirls a straight thing.

>> No.4403470

I wouldn't try to use Freud or psychoanalysts in this, its actually much simpler than it seems and they would just muddy the waters

futas look like girls and act like girls, human sexuality is not just based on what sexual organ you have, its really that simple

hell, the Greeks didn't even consider "gay" and "straight" as intelligible concepts, it was rather about who was penetrated and who was submissive, the sex of the sexual partners didn't really come into play

>> No.4403492

I didn't read the whole thread but what books could I read for scholarly analysis of sexual fetishes?

>> No.4403517

>>4403492
freud, lacan, etc, but if you cant manage a thread I doubt you could manage the psychoanalytic canon

>> No.4403522

>>4403228
straight is such a nebulous term though. I find it difficult to believe that there are people whose sexual appetites are so selective that they can only desire one thing in one context, without fail.

Dicks and vaginas are not mutually exclusive.

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>Tfw my gf gets a boner for me

>> No.4403590

>>4403517
>freud, lacan
>lists the founder of psychoanalysis and one of the most well known psychoanalysts, but didn't list a book

Great insight and literacy, anon. Clearly, you know what you're talking about. Kindly fuck yourself.

>> No.4403619

Where are dem Jungians to talk about the Tiresias archetype?

>> No.4403657

>>4403522
They're not mutually exclusive, as in there are plenty of people who are attracted to both, either equally or to one more than the other. But to claim there are no people who are attracted to just one of them just because you're not one of them is just as absurd.

>> No.4403758

>>4402972
>vagina
>"less visceral" than penis
wh-
you're using the wrong words here, anon.

>> No.4403761

>>4403619
Thank you! Finally somebody on topic

>> No.4403800

You know what's always struck me as particularly (if not intentionally) Freudian about hentai? The phallus is very rarely actually shown, it's always hidden or masked in some way as if to enforce its transcendent yet lacking character. Especially in old-school hentai, where it literally wouldn't be drawn, and simply left as a phallus-shaped outline of blank white page.

>> No.4403833

>>4403800
This is because of strict censorship laws imposed by the US after WWII.

>> No.4403871

>>4402836
>Your boilerplate "basement-dweller" is that way because they failed to form a healthy social life, but this is in turn because they're sullen, awkward, incapable of picking up on cues, and so forth. So if they were forced into more social situations early on, would that be different? Who can say? But there's certainly a point of no return, and many 4channers are way past it.

But it's probably too late for that. There's no smallest *general* common denominator for social interaction any more. There isn't any code to crack. All that is left is a constant negotiation - i.e. rule of the strong.

>> No.4403906

>>4403871
I don't think that this is the case.

>> No.4404034

>>4402923
Wouldn't that make them bisexual?

>> No.4404078

>>4402600
>and Heidegger would be too.

Heidegger's dead, anon. Get over it.

>> No.4404089

>>4404078
I think that his sharp distinction between man and animal is simplistic, but I think he was right about technology

>> No.4405387

Bump

>> No.4405408

Take it from someone who browses /d/
You will never find the answer to the mystery of futanari. Gay, straight and bi all have the opportunity to enjoy it. Most /d/ browsers really don't question what makes them like it anymore.