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Do you guys ever discuss non-English literature? I'm interested in discussing Dutch work but our only stronghold on 4chan is an awful thread on /int/.

>> No.4399520

Russian literature = French literature > German literature >>>>>>>>>>>>> English literature

>> No.4399527

>>4399520
english literature > french >>>>> russian > german

if we are talking about english as a language, there is absolutely no competition. if we mean it as a country then things are different.

>> No.4399534

>>4399520
>>4399527

at least we can all agree that dutch doesn't even rank

>> No.4399542

>>4399519
id like to discuss it, ik ben ook nederlands

>> No.4399547

>>4399527
german>french>russian>english

with no >>>>> in there

>> No.4399550

>>4399547
oh my god there is no way someone could actually think german literature is the greatest. are you counting philosophy?

>> No.4399552

>>4399550
B-but they are Aryan Germanic Master Race™, there's no way they could get surpassed by filthy frogs or slav Untermenschen

>> No.4399554

>>4399519
what do you recommend? I've already read Hersenschimmen, which i highly recommend.

>> No.4399556

>>4399550
I include philsophical writings in their literary merit, yes. I mean, reading Nietzsche is a fucking firework of literary genius while simultaniously being a pile of incoherent shit pholsophy wise

>> No.4399565

>>4399556
i count nietzsche for his prose style but i wouldn't count hegel or heidegger or kant for the german's credit. without counting the actual philosophy content german literature is absolutely embarrassing. german philosophy and music is 10/10 tho

>> No.4399570

>>4399542
Hoi, welke schrijvers vindt je leuk?

>> No.4399571

Latin American literature is pretty good but not many people can name authors pass Luis Borges and Garcia Marquez

>> No.4399574

There was a Nescio thread on Sunday and Hermans has been talked about on /lit/ before, so it does happen.

also, >>4399554
Claudia de Breij likened The Darkroom of Damocles to 24 in her introduction from the free publication so you know it's good ._.

>> No.4399576

>>4399565
I wouldnt count Hegel or Heidegger either, Kant I would, to some extent, and what's embarrassing about Kafka, Mann, Bernhard and (please dont hurt me) Goethe/Schiller?

Am I that much of a shmuck for liking them?

>> No.4399577

I loved Kort Amerikaans/Crew Cut, but cared nothing for Turks Fruit/Turkish Delight...what other Jan Wolkers should I read (apart from Terug naar Oegstgeest obv)

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>>4399554
Gonna read it this week.

>> No.4399583

>>4399580
Nice

>> No.4399584

The only Dutch book I ever read was a translation of Nescio (I bought it in Waterstone Amsterdam though).
I liked it a lot, especially The Freeloader and Young Titans.

>> No.4399590

>>4399576
none of those are bad, every country has great writers, but none of those are even close to the "fathers of languages" (cervantes, shakespeare, dante) that other european countries have. and i mean try to go on after that... you've got a few others with worldwide importance but you run out ridiculously fast. in english off the top of my head i've got:

milton
shakespeare
chaucer
keats
yeats
joyce
coleridge
wordsworth
blake
nabakov
melville
whitman
shelley
byron
emerson
dickens
wilde
eliot
austen
woolf
faulkner
eliot

almost all of which have some global importance

>> No.4399592

Behalve den man, die de Sarphatistraat de mooiste plek van Europa vond, heb ik nooit een wonderlijker kerel gekend dan den uitvreter.

>> No.4399599

Where do I into Couperus?

>> No.4399602

>>4399599
>Reading anything pre-20th century but Multatuli

Get a load of this pleb.

>> No.4399608

>>4399590
I guess I'm pretty much served here. I mean I still would put french way before english literature, but I gotta admit that I didn't think that ranking through at all.

Would have been terrible if it mattered.

>> No.4399611

>>4399602
Wilde seemed to be into him, also, FUCK YOU, JOOST VAN DEN VONDEL BITCH

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4399620

tfw no Amsterdam /lit/ meetup at the cranky American alcoholic bibliophile ._.

>> No.4399633

>>4399620
Hi, Amsterdam here. I'm not joining up with you guys because I don't want to be abducted and raped.

>> No.4399635

>>4399633
Who said anything about abduction?

>> No.4399679

>>4399534
Until you read Nescio, then it ranks at the very top.

>> No.4399689

>>4399679
>muh nescio

>> No.4399695

>>4399689
made me chuckle 7/10.

>> No.4399727

>>4399689
>not being a dedicated nescian and militant japiist

>> No.4399822

>>4399570
>dt

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>>4399534
>at least we can all agree that dutch doesn't even rank

>> No.4399863

>>4399519
that book is horrendous

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>>4399863
that's the point

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Read pic related and liked it a lot.

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>>4400851
Bought this one a few weeks ago but still haven't had the chance to read it.

>> No.4400876

>>4399580
The fuck, I had to read this shit in high school.. It's actually pretty average with a decent ending. If you want to read a good Dutch novel, go for 'De passievrucht'.