/lit/ - Literature

if by guidelines you mean standards, then yes
>Hephaestus looked up at the sound of a far-off approaching wind and gazed over dead weeds for miles, his hand at his brow, saluting the sun to shade his eyes.. He smelled the rain in the dirt, and saw it in the clouds. Rain in August.
>He whistled, and the echo of his whistle lay dead in the dirt, unreturned.
>dirt dead dirt sun dirt dead road dirt rain dead dirt
He turned around and plodded home down the tense dirt road, through dead
and dying fields.

links?

>>436794
The only thing the editors did was copy and paste

>>436804
well that's stupid

Any literature journal would have standards - a threshold of sorts that writers would have to meet.

If this journal had those, anon would go apeshit when their shitty lit was called shitty and not included, and the thing was trolled into oblivion.

The only way to keep that from happening is to let the shit in with the good stuff.

>>436811
Thats the power of the zine

>>436816
>Implying there is good stuff

>>436826
>implying everything everywhere is bad
enjoy your 14 year old cynicism

>>436831
>implying you are not butthurt

>>436821
>no standards
>zine full of essentially copypasta
>power

LINKS!?

>>436831
I'm not sure anything made by someone who uses 4chan can be good

http://zwg.wildwestwaffles.com/ZWG_-_March.1.pdf

If you have zotero, you can save the PFD in your browser.

>read something written by 4channers
>surprised that it's shit

>>436838
>I'm not sure anything edited by Brazilians can be good

>>436846
>more 14 year old level of cynicism
i'm sure all 1oo% of channers have absolutely zero talent

>>436794
> Jealous that somehow you didn't get accepted for the Zine

>delicious greentext

I'm so glad this failed as hard as I knew it would.

how about this. Lets all write something decent instead of bitching about quality?

>>436877
But you couldn't produce anything decent

>>436877
NO!

we need more rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble. because if no one reads my material then no one should ever read your material.

>>436850
you haven't been on 4chan very long, have you?

also,
>all 1oo% of channers
thanks for proving my point

>>436877
how about no

>>436884
Please don't think any of the people on 4chan were ever creative or intelligent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWl6V9hXrHA

I'm under the impression that this is just a hater thread, but neverthelesss I'll bite.

We've receieved a truckload of submissions,so we've got quite a few to choose from. Our editing team has also been organized , so that now we have everybody working instead of just an unco-ordinated effort.

the question of streaming submissions is hotly debated, but we may begin doing such. Guaranteed, we'll be selecting what we percieve as the "best" article of each zine section, and place it as the first submission of the section.

Also, we apparently have a few graphic artists willing to illustrate the works of anon.

tldr; everythings going to be ok.

>>436901
>Guaranteed, we'll be selecting what we perceive as the "best" article of each zine section, and place it as the first submission of the section.
>everything is going to be ok.

Nothing to see here folks

>>436893
Keep projecting your own issues on others, bro.

>>436901
oh, and trip for validation

>>436908
uggghh

This_is_why_we_can't_have_nice_things.jpeg

besides saying half of it is shit, why don't you tell us your opinion about the other half

Why on Earth would you make an E-Zine?

This_is_why_we_can't_have_nice_things.jpeg

besides saying that half of it is shit, why don't you tell us your opinion about the other half

I thought the technical section was the best.

>>436919
A fun way for people to learn from each other, receive feedback, and meet other writers? Why shouldn't people make an e-zine?

I actually enjoyed Revolution.

Some people could not understand tense. However, there were some good stories. I personally liked Darrin's Revolution

>>436901
Hmm.. What about dumping the rest in a "the worst of /lit/" zine so we can see what you're censoring away?

>>436919
They like making things a lot harder

There's at least 3 or 4 pieces in there that are legit good. Not 4chan good, but good good. (Revolution, SICK, Second Sunset were my favs)
If you's all hating without reading those at least, you mad.


Layout needs work

>>436932
+1

>>436942
we're always open to suggestion.

>>436942
>Not 4chan good, but good good

Whats this I don't even

>>436956

Standardized font and layout. Justified on both sides, like any real magazine or book.

Either spaces between paragraphs, or indented. But either way, standardized.

Hotlink the table of contents, and don't use dashes. It looks sloppy. Make the story title in bold, and the authors name not, or distinguish them someway. Get some real fiction magazine and ape ape ape.

Also, Zine Writers Guild? What is that? Really?

>>436969
Like good, in the real sense on it's own merits, not good simply because it came out of the same filthy soup that spawns attention whore tripfag trolls. You know.

>>436826
>implying there stuff is good
>implying there stuff
>implying there
>there
14 year-old detected!

>>436973
uh, the names a hold-over from early times. If we were to change it now, we'd probably have anons wondering wtf is going on. It's odd yes, but it works.

and about the suggestions, they all sound good. I'll put them up for debate with the other editors, but I suspect they'll pass without problem

I think the genre tags do you a disservice.

Fiction
Non Fiction
Poetry

All you need.

>>436988
yeah, you might be right. currently however, we've already got editors divided onto each subject so I doubt the 2nd edition will change. However, I'm willing to put the idea forward for the third issue

>>436848
>>436833
>>436821
>>436804
>>436892
>>436906
>>436906
>>436937

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT HATED THE ZINE AND ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRST TROLL THREAD WITH GOLDENSOX.

CAPS RAGE

>>436986
Don't even try it.

>>437007

Agent 007: Yami

>>436988
I agree with this.

>>437007
Whats your point?

>>437023
We hate you and want you to stop posting. Shush now.

>>436931
Why on Earth would you make an E-zine?

>>437033
Failed writers

>>437026
but suck you like to suck on this zine dick?

>>437001
I think you could still have sub headings, but I think there's a lot of ghettoizin' of speculative fiction versus traditional fiction.

>>437038
>Failed vagina.

Someone should write a story about 4chan

>>437061
yeah, and most anons just ignore categories they hate. It's a good idea, to be honest

Haters gonna hate because they can't do any better.

Second issue in March 30 guys.

I would participate in a playwriters e-zine.

>>437173
Submit something! It's pan/lit/ anything you want.

If you didn't know, the OP is someone who participates in this dumbass zine fishing for more praise.

>>437193

Wait what? How does this work?

>>437026
second

>>437197
Send what you got to zinewritersguild@gmail.com and wait an answer from the editors. It usually don't take long, not since they kept Goldensox from replying e-mails and put Lind on charge,.

>>437194
>>437200
>baw baw samefag hate

>THIS DOESN'T INVOLVE OR INTEREST ME, I MUST PREACH MY HATE TO THE WORLD. WITH CAPSLOCK AND FIRE.

I thought it was okay. I'll leaf through the next one.

>>437115
One of them had anons as ugly perverted monsters.

Just downloaded this. If this thread is still alive in a few hours, I'll leave some comments.

>>436942
Of those three, only Second Sunset I feel has some pretty good lines and good writing throughout.

>>437252
>Second Sunset I feel has some pretty good lines and good writing throughout.
eeewwww no but the polish one was the best

>>437252
>>437289
Sick is my favorite. It's really unsettling.

>>437289
Which one is that?

>>437291
Heard Josef K. became a serialist and will contribute on the following zines.

>>437296
Did you even read the Zine?

>>437305
I'm only reading the ones people seem to honestly believe are good

I read it on the principle on that I went on to the next one when I started facepalming. Suffice to say I finished in about 20 minutes and the only one I read to the end was the first one with the dog which was also the best one as it left me in an interesting state of bedazzlement I have rarely felt before. I think this is a nice iniative, but a more effective editing process is something I would love to see in the future.

>>437299
Ummm,.. there doesn't need to be a sequel to SICK. that would be really dumb.

>>437289
Jeremy confirmed for following issues.

>>437311
Snowball effect is snowball effect...fuck this shit

>>437315
Noted and considered.

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As one of the proofreaders / editors, all I ask if that if you submit something, please, PLEASE spellcheck it first.

>>437336
thas yer job fagget

>>437315
We have the basic problem that if we start excluding content, people complain about us being judges. We're not here to do that - we're simply here to compile.

As such, what you see is what you get. The idea is that 4chan can provide feedback for the authors so that people will learn to produce more interesting material that meets the common standards.

We're not trying to start a publication. We're simply hoping people can have a new avenue for their creativity.

Although I've said this before.
The first issue was a product of poor organization and rushing to get it out quickly. We felt like we were losing support and wanted to produce something quickly to prove that the cogs were turning.

This was probably a poor choice.

We already have the second issue ready, essentially, but we will not be releasing it until the 30th to give plenty of time for proof reading and back-and-forth between editors and authors to get any mistakes corrected.

The second issue will be better. Both from the quality of the writing sent in, and because of our now improved organization. We feel, to some degree, like we let /lit/ down with the first issue and will not do the same with the second.

Where do I send my story if I want to contribute?

>>437349
zinewritersguild@gmail.com

Read the wiki
http://zinewritersguild.wikia.com/wiki//lit/%27s_Zine_Writers_Guild_Wiki
email is
zinewritersguild@gmail.com

>>437346
Fuck you. You didn't let anyone down, you put out a compilation of /lit/ submissions, and people discussed it. That's more than anyone else did.

You did just fine, stop hand wringing and listening to the haters. Gonna format the next one better? That's all frosting at this point.

You could release the lost short stories of Salinger on sheets of gold and Gamer Girl will still troll.

>>437356
>implying I am the only one that hates it

>laughing_man.jpeg

>>437363
>laughing_man.jpeg
ehehehehehe

>>437363
>Implying samefaggotry don't exist
>Implying a troll's work isn't stiring flame against something they envy/despite

>>437363
Didn't you disappear after you posted your pics?

>>437363
You are more than entitled to your opinion, but I will again make my request to you and anyone that if you dislike it, please provide constructive criticism. "I don't like it" doesn't help us improve. "I think your formatting and font choice sucks, and you can't fix typos for shit" is constructive, because it tells us exactly what we need to work on.

I for one will always encourage feedback of any kind, because at least then someone out there is getting something out of it.

>>437370
>implying the writers are not creating a snowball effect by self promotion

>>437370
>Implying samefaggotry don't exist
It's not nearly as common as most people think it is.

>>437378
>butthurt
>hurtbutt
>camwhore
>opinion meaningless

>>437381
>sadden validation

>laughing_man_is_watching.jpeg

>>437386
>So butthurt by people doing something successful that both cunt and asshole turned into a single cavity

>gamergirl
>ultimate promoter of the zine due to spamming.

truth

>>437394
This is so true.
GamerGirl = Intolerable.
Gamer Girl hates zine.
Enemy of my enemy.

I wonder if in a far future, if global warming or Ahmadinejad don't kill us all, if they'll write stories about us like we write about medieval people.

>>437393
>something successful

sure

They definitely, DEFINITELY should shorten the zine. With it being that long, they had to have had terrible standards of quality.

I mean, their problem is most likely that they don't have anyone with a very good eye for prose/poetry, and they remedy that by not rejecting much at all.

>>437399
guaranteed

>>437401
They're going for a 60~70-pager according to the Wiki.

>>437400
close cuntassmouth
stop posting

>>437401
Strictly speaking, we don't reject anything that looks legit. So submitting a story of "Hello, I'm a dog and fuck your couch" probably won't make it into the zine.

We've received enough submissions for easily up to a fifth edition. As our wiki states, and as >>437406 pointed out, we're trying to set a general page limit to each issue.

However, submission-wise, we receive anything from three paragraphs to five pages in length, and we try to accommodate everything as best we can.

>>437400
Shut your fat whore mouth. You were in the original thread and you were being a fucking cunt by claiming to hate it, and yet promoting it in so many fucking threads. And yes, I am mad.

>>437406
Yeah, their standards are a little high. /lit/ isn't a highly trafficked board, and 60-70 pages is probably a bit too much, at least until we have more submissions.
>>437399
Well, maybe. Who knows? Advances such as the internet and television may decrease the amount of mystery and wonder that future generations will see us with.

OH BOY IT'S THIS THREAD AGAIN.

In all seriousness, the zine fucking sucked. At least they eventually added indents to every paragraph and justified all the text. It didn't help the actual content much, but looked much better after they did some simple formatting.

>>437415
I'll concede that then. Still, given that the internet is so easily accessible, there still might be a quality issue. I just read a few pretty lame submissions in the last one.

>People who didn't downloaded Rev.4 bitching about the beta

>>437421
Proper formatting is an important element we're working on.

It's worth noting that some authors have requested we leave their submissions alone, and present them only as-is.

>>437421
And that's a shame; the project was receiving a lot of support when the first issue was about to be released. Even those who hated it at first were changing their mind; the I-am-12-and-what-is-this format of the PDF when first released really did a backlash with the public opinion. Even if they fixed it quickly, we still keep that first impression in our mind.

>>437429
Who the fuck is in charge?Prole says he is going to cut content

>>437437
No he isn't. Lemme talk with him about this.

>>437437
Stupid face. Shut it and leave.

http://zinewritersguild.wikia.com/wiki/Goldensox

I almost peed laughing.

>>437443
Well played.

>>437443
>Goldensox
>Brazilian
>Blonde

lolno.

>>437429
Watch out with that shit. Unique text design can be the last refuge of a scoundrel.

>>437450
>missed the first threads
>dunno about the Guildmasters

Why did several people actually like Revolution? It was hilariously cheesy.

>>437428
Yeah, they dropped the ball on that. They put out fixes pretty damn fast, though, and seem to have learned their lesson.

>>437456
That just made it even more awesomer.

Don't get sucked into the trolling so much, editor people. People like GamerGirl and that one sagefag who shows up every thread to make a big fuss were resigned to hating this before you had even one submission. You're still getting those submissions, so just put them out.

tl;dr: Stop apologising for the first issue and fuck the haters.

>>437440
>the question of streaming submissions is hotly debated, but we may begin doing such. Guaranteed, we'll be selecting what we percieve as the "best" article of each zine section, and place it as the first submission of the section.


it's trolling, buddy. You can't expect anything more from gamergirl

>>437456

The whole time I just kept thinking of screaming charlie in Deer Hunter.

>"Meow!" the man screams, slapping Michael hard across the face. He grips the revolver tighter and squeezes back tears. "Meow!"

>>437291
Just read Sick.
>I push him to the floor and strike quickly with the crowbar
>I am a free man.
>crowbar
>freeman

GORDON FREEMAN, NO!

>>437486
holy crap, that sheds a whole new light on the story

>>437489
I'm fairly certain it was unintentional. At any rate, good mindfuck.
Feels Good, man.

"A dirigible droned overhead, raining ash."

>>437505
I want an armored kitty as a horse ;_;

>>437456
Snowball effect

>>437546
That filthy orifice on your face needs to tighten up and stop wordshitting you fucking useless camwhore.

>>437536
I'll be reading more of Jeremy

>>437562
So will I

>>437505
wat

>>436850

At one point I'm pretty sure at least a couple TV writers frequented 4chan. Sadly however, they fled and nothing has been the same.

>>437609
The editors were originally going to be called 'guildmasters'
Note that ZWG stands for zine writers guild

also, not that 'Zine' refers to single page format meant to cut and folded into a miniature magazine, and originally the ZWG was meant to collect these and put them on a pdf. Oh how things have changed.
http://zinewritersguild.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_a_%27zine%27%3F

>>437616
Given the sorry fucking state of TV drama at the moment, the zine is better off without them.

>>437625
That's retarded.

Thank fuck you changed it.

>>437634

TV drama is great right now, what are you talking about

what is this I don't even

>>437616
They don't post on 4chan any more, but they're still out there

>>437664
No we're not.

>>437373
pics of gamergirl for further lulz plz.

>>437692
Yes we are. Wait. I don't write for TV. I write for something else.

>>437694
Once you see them, you will wish you hadn't. Seriously.

>this thread

The guy that wrote Revolution seems... really boring lol

http://zinewritersguild.wikia.com/wiki/Darrin

>>437702
You're just making us even more curious.

>>437702
pics or you are her.

>>437751
He's a 4channer, what were you expecting? Him in a cowboy hat jetpacking up Everest?

>>437780
The Second Sunset guy actually opens with ASL...

>>437702
I've seen everything people refer to as "what has been seen..." so I don't care about my sanity anymore.

>>437785
And gives his real name.

I'm going to track him down and shag him silly.

>>437795
Not that I'm trying to dissuade you from raping someone, but it might be a pen name.

>>437751

They're all pretty boring people.

>>437809
What >>437780 said.

They're literary-minded 4channers. None of them have anything interesting going on in their lives.

This is why you need REAL Guildmasters, not random people from 4chan. You need people who know what they're doing, people who can run shit. Guildmasters are elite professionals adept in all relevant skills, without them the project is finished before it begins.

>>437813
we're all living in a yellow basement...

>>437820
The whole idea was just a tripfag trying to be an e-celebrity on /lit/.

Hell, the only reason this even went anywhere is because that faggot kept spamming threads about it.

>>437820
Why the fuck would anyone real care about 4chan?
I enjoyed reading something made by 4chan for 4chan. The good and the bad of it. I think haters are taking this project a little bit too seriously, or rather believe that the contributors and non-hating readers are taking it very seriously. I think everyone concedes that this is just meant to be a fun experiment.

>>437835
>never read goldensox's posts
>don't even wonder why he never nameposts on zwg thread

>>437850
Editorfag here.

It's actually being very fun, and the feedback is awesome. Also, first anon-based project to get on the rails. S'good stuff.

>>437857
This. Feels good man.

Listen, if you guys can't get some fucking Guildmasters together, count me out. Take this seriously or go home.

>>437857
Yeah, you can at least say that - you're dramatically more successful than most internet projects.

>>437857

Project Chanology was probably first, and it was fucking gay.

>>437865
No we can't. Describing ourselves as anything better than 'despicable crippled hunchbacks' can stir up a trollstorm and dramatornado, let alone 'successful'.

>>437878
When you've got ten issues out and a regular schedule of solid quality material, you can at least stop being crippled.

>>437878
Anonymous is very defensive about its non-individuality.

>>437878
Take it on the hump and keep going, guys.

All this project needs is time and basic standards. The basic standards to refuse things like FF7 reviews. The time needed to get a few recurrent writers.

Personally, I am of the opinion that all reviews should be ignored. Not one review out of thousands is worth reading. Even the review of a crazy e-famous autist was boring; that speaks enough by itself.

>>437899
>Even the review of a crazy e-famous autist was boring; that speaks enough by itself.
I enjoyed that one. It even made me want to own the book.

Random thought: I really wonder how many of the contributors are women. What about the editors, are they're all men?

>>437917
There's one known female contributor so far.

>>437923
Only one? :|

>>437917
Direct from the edition:
3 women, 2 unknown.

>>437927
internet, no girls etc

>>437927
You sound surprised. This is still 4chan, you know.

>>437928
Who are the other women besides Poletard? Go on, spill the beans.

>>437940
Please do!

>>437795
Congratulations, you've already made his user page.

>>437945
>>437940
O wait, two of said girls are set for the second release.

Break for the Crash Down and At The Races is written by a woman.

>>437957
>Please don't rape me.
Don't think that's going to stop me, love.

C'mere, I have a nice signed copy of Mortal Engines for you... in my pants.

>>437973
>your resistance only makes my penis harder

On other news, did you guys completely dropped Goldensox or what?

>>437983
I think he's still there, just isn't being allowed to make any important decisions.

>>437983
Caesar made him addicted to Ritalin and now he's playing Dwarf Fortress nonstop until we need him to put everthing together before the release.

>>437992
No luck finding someone professional to do that?

>>437999
It's actually the only thing he does right. (At least that's what he says)

>>437805
How many people can be doing War Studies?

>>438013

>>437940
I'm a girl.

>>438027
Submission name?

>>438027
That's nice.

The editing tips on the wiki is bollocks and it seriously need a graph not made by a downian monkey without arms.

>>438061
You're aware of the concept of "a wiki", where anyone can contribute to unfuck things...
right?

>>437536
I came a river there.

>>438077
second
>>438072
will do

>>438061

lol, he put quality on the x-axis instead of time, and there is no y-axis... and there's no data, just a big smear of colour.

Someone unnigger this please.

>>438030
Gullible Retard.

>>438103

Now it's Caucasian.

>>438132
>Hurr I'm a tripfag, everyone must know me

>>438132
Second Issue?

>>438134
I lol'd.

>>438137

Sorry next time I post will be without my trip.

Wind grew up on the rolling plains of Tsangul, living happily in a small village of traders. One summer, a group of soldiers led in Pasod's name burn down his village because they failed to pay their tribute. Wind's close friend Topaz is kidnapped. Seeking vengeance, Wind sets off on a journey across the world. Before leaving on his journey, however, his other close childhood friend, now a muscular and well-meaning, but horribly dimwitted man named Garnath begs to come. Wind at first says it’s too dangerous, but after the two are attacked by monsters and Garnath does better with his knuckledusters than Wind does with his sword, he agrees and the two set off to rescue Topaz.

>>438222

>>438229
Who are you replying to?
>>438146
Might help reining the attitude in until you've actually submitted something.

Gamergirl ran away as soon as someone started saking for her pics...
Now we know how to troll her?

>>438249
At last!

>>438237
>Who are you replying to?
Some tripfag posted a very bad premise then quickly deleted it.

>>438237
What attitude?

>>438294
>What attitude?

>>436804

I submitted something and I got back drafts.

>>438302
Yay?

>>438299

I apologize if I give off one?

bump

>>438302
For the first edition, no, not a lot of editing happened. As stated earlier, product of rushing the release and poor organization. This issue has been addressed in the second release.

>>438835
Don't beat yourself up over the first issue. Prove that you're good with the second.

>>438369
I forgive you.

>My face after this thread is still alive

nice to see the community is still behind this.

Since this thread is still up, might as well do a little advertising.
We want artists who would be interested in illustrating stories. Just a few illustrations for each issue. Send us an email if you're interested.
zinewritersguild@gmail.com

>>438941
That's your face for everything. I'm starting to think you actually might be Danny Devito.

If you're not, don't tell me. Why ruin it?

>>438966
>Prole doesn't change facial expressions

Prole come hang out with me on the irc.

I really enjoyed both Sick and Revolution. Thanks to both the authors for sharing, I hope to see more.

>>439088
Get ready for issue 2 then.

I'm hoping for a second Second Sunset. So a third... fourth... fuck.

I submitted for the second issue. Not sure if I'm worthy, and I've since changed the poem by a word and a phrase.

>>437536
what's this from?

>>439243
sunseto dos

>>439243
The zine.

I am actually writing a short story just for zine trying to see how terrible I truly am.

The author of Revolution submitted a second story that should be in the next issue.

I hate the morons that are "lol zine is shit". It's easier to hate than create, I suppose, but come on. Be constructive.

>>439269
Same here. I have a shitty idea for a story, I wonder how it'll be treated by zine readers. :3

>>439337
the problem is there's so many fundamental flaws with this stuff, from basic grammar to poor word choice, to the fact that most of the published stuff in this zine is probably still in the first draft stage. If you submitted these articles to a real zine, the editors wouldn't waste their time critiquing this, they'd just send a rejection.

Most of it probably is first draft. But most submitters aren't serious writers to be honest.

>>439363
First off, thanks for being constructive in your feedback.

Second, I don't think the zine guildmasters (awful title, btw) are competing with any other literary publication. This is more for the lulz, and letting anon read stories by other anons. Some adopt names when submitting the story, but that's only to keep plagiarists at bay and have that recognition going on anyway.

Third, I agree, there are flaws in the work. But I don't think I've ever read anything that is perfect, there's always some weakness in either the author's prose or his vision for laying out the narrative. As someone else said, anons are most likely not serious writers. This is a pleasure society, not one for money or glory.

>>439363
This is made for free, edited for free, and the writers don't expect anything but lolz for their contribution. Why would you expect something at the level of a real magazine? Half the writers choose to remain anonymous anyway.

>>439392
>As someone else said, anons are most likely not serious writers.

Well, why, with all the millions of books and other zines out there, would I want to waste my time reading shit that wasn't written by serious writers? If they're not going tot take the time to polish it into something presentable, why should I care about it, much less spend my time holding your hand and helping you get better at something you don't even care about?

>This is a pleasure society, not one for money or glory.

Oh my god. You know, even zines like Annalemma which are printed on quality paper, well bound, and have phenomenal contributors and stories are not "in it for the money and glory." They're in it for publishing quality writing and providing it to people who enjoy reading quality work.

>Why would you expect something at the level of a real magazine?
Because the ZWG tripfag never presented it as a magazine "for the lulz which publishes crappy first drafts."

>>439425

When the zine picks up speed I'm sure there will be some quality control. Just give it time.

>>439425
ITT: haters.

>>439449
not OP, but I can see where he's coming from.
there were multiple threads on this every day from its conception to the publishing, and most of it was terrible. There could have been a small amount of editing done, or collaboration with the writers to make their stories better. The whole thing would have come out a lot stronger.

>>439455
...as we are well aware of. We're working hard to fix these complaints for the second zine.

lets make this constructive critcism, shall we?

>>439455
Thanks for contributing then.

>>439480
>lets make this constructive critcism, shall we?

Fine. Edit your fucking writers. Learn to say no to certain submissions. Create a mission statement. If you get a submission where there's a sentence fragment in the first paragraph, tell the author to find it and fix it. If your author is too lazy to title their submission, reject it. If a poem is five lines long and only takes up 1/4 of the page, don't leave the other 3/4 of the page blank. Help your writers strengthen their voice. If something sounds like it's a first draft, reject it.

>>439480
You are doing jack shit...fucking copy and paste thats it

>>439544
Second issue submitter here. I got a copy of my work back with some nice insightful edits. Feels good. Check out the next issue (please)

>>439766
stfu Prole

where/how can I read it?

I hope it gets better

>>439807

???

>>439807
Scroll up.

http://zwg.wildwestwaffles.com/ZWG_-_March.1.pdf

badump

>>440839
Why?

>>440843
Why not?

>>440850
The thread has run its course. I actually like the zine and even I can see that.

Resurrecting this motherfucker

RISE Zineombie!

>>442410
Editorfag here.

>>440852
Was right and we were just waiting it to die to start a new thread regarding issue 2.

Another editor fag. I agree with these people
>>442429
>>442410
>>440843
let 'er die. We have nothing to talk about

One thing I do want to say, since this is still here:
On future submissions, there is a limit of 3k words. We are pretty flexible, but if you are going to write something much longer than that, plan to serialize it.