/lit/ - Literature

>>4361274
none

A Catholic, but fairly light on practice.

>>4361278

OP here. Im catholic too,

If I had kids I think i'd want to have them baptised too. Would you?

I'm a Muslim.

>>4361281
Definitely. I wouldn't force them to practice when they got older, but I would certainly introduce them to the faith.

>>4361284
That is pretty much shit-tier of religion

None.

>>4361274
Atheist who hasn't completely shunned his cultural past and still participates in quite a bit of the tradition like most intelligent people.
>inb4 fedora jokes

Atheist who was able to narrowly avoiding the abyss of fedoraism. I mean God isn't real, but there's no reason to be a dick about it.

I have a soft spot for the Cathars though. This is hell.

Mystic
Then daoist
Then Buddhist

>>4361318
>there's no reason to be a dick about it.
Except there kind of is, as long as fundamentalism is around

>>4361318
>God isn't real
meaningless statement

>>4361289
I don't care.

Zen Buddhist. I'm not even sure it's much of a religion really. Just lot's of meditating and reading koans lately because it's freezing.

>>4361325
Sorry.

>>4361322
But why is there fundamentalism around? Looking at why people follow political Islam or whatever is a lot more morthwhile than just going 'what sheeple lol how euphoric'.

>>4361328

As you shouldn't. Assuming you aren't a radical Muslim.

Atheist and I won't introduce my kids to any kind of religion.

Kill yourselves anti-atheists fedora brigade

>>4361274
Asatru

>>4361332

Fundamentalism is an attempt to return to and thus preserve certain Christian ideals that have been determined most important. A preservation of culture.

It's like a a way of practicing Christianity that rejects modernist insertion into Christianity.

>>4361336
I'm not being facetious when I say this: not introducing your kids to religion amounts to introducing your kids to the popular religion, i.e. Liberalism. If you don't give your kids any values then they will just absorb the values of modern society, like pleasure-seeking, sentimentality, tolerance, desire for wealth and fame, etc.
There is no such thing as not introducing your kids to religion, in the sense that they ARE going to get their values from SOMEWHERE. If your kids don't have any religion it just means that it will be much, much easier for the employees of the state and of industry, the teachers and the media moguls, to program them.

>>4361344
Modern societies values are prevalent among most kids religious or not.

Also, you act like there's only 2 types of values - the evil modern society values, and the heavenly religious values. There's more.

I don't know why I replied to you actually, you can't into logic at all

>>4361343
but fundamentalism is more reactionary than preserving if I recall correctly. it has a perceived past that it strives to return to, often grounded in biblical stories.

I might be entirely wrong, but I'm pretty sure I read this in a book by Steve Bruce ages ago

>>4361335
I don't really understand what is radical Islam, but I guess if it's anything like fundamentalism, I'm certainly not a radical Muslim. I'm against such things.

>>4361349
>Modern societies values are prevalent among most kids religious or not.

Yes, but the religious are more likely to resist them, insofar as they are religious. Those "religious kids" are mostly only religious by name, not by their devotion to religion.

>Also, you act like there's only 2 types of values - the evil modern society values, and the heavenly religious values.

That's not what I said at all. I said that modern values function as a religion, so it's not a matter of having a religion or having no religion, it's a matter of choosing a religion, and if you don't choose your child's religion for him then, unless he is extraordinarily strong-willed, society will choose it for him.

>>4361325
>God is dead
Meaningless statement

jewish

>>4361344
So why do the values you want to teach your kids have to come in the form of religion?

>>4361362
Agreed, God cannot die by definition. "God is dead" is like saying, "the circle is triangular".

>>4361366
>what's a metaphor

>>4361366
>2013
>Touting the merits of a book you obviously haven't even read
Lol k

>>4361365
They don't have to, it's just that religion is the most effective value-delivery system, outside of the Media/Press, that humanity has ever invented. And since you cant control the Media/Press, your best chances of drilling values into your kids is through religion.

>>4361366
What religion are you? Obviously not Christian because one of their most important miracles involved the earthly death of their God

>>4361352

Well yeah, that's what I meant by preservation. It's kind of like, they don't like modern Christianity and want to go back to old Christianity that was more adherent to the bible. It's just a typical grassroots thing.

More power to them. As long as they don't regress back to the crusaded or aren't the WBC I don't really think it matters why they exist.

Fundamentally all religions exist to help people in some way or another. At least the ones I can think of.

>>4361371
Obviously your not Christian because you do not know that Jesus Christ is True God and True Man, and that the substance that died on the cross was Man, his human aspect. Insofar as He is God, Christ could not die.

>>4361370
>Most-effective
Non-anecdotal evidence?

>>4361376
Then nobody can die, because only out bodies die but out spirits persist, you have an ill-defined conception of death

>>4361370
>it's just that religion is the most effective
source pls :^)

>>4361378
>Then nobody can die, because only out bodies die but out spirits persist,
Exactly. That is Christian - our souls are immortal. However, going to Hell is often called "the second death".

>>4361378

That's what the Bible says? Your spirit can persist on through death like Christ's. You conquer death like Christ through Christ.

I'm not the same guy but I think you're confused.

>>4361370

> can't control the media/press

Rupert Murdoch pls. You aren't fooling anyone.

>>4361384
You sound confused, Christ conquered death when he was resurrected, aka rose from the dead, how do you return from the dead if you weren't dead in the first place?

>>4361380
>>4361377
OK, to be fair, I haven't considered Pavlovian conditioning methods.
What do you think is a better way of teaching values to your kids? Films? Discussion?
Thing is, religion has discussion and the symbolic texture of films. It has big buildings and big ceremonies to communicate values to the person. Surely that will be more effective than simply sitting your kid on your lap and telling him that stealing is wrong. Surely when a man at an altar in a gigantic Cathedral says stealing is wrong, the message will come across with more force.

>>4361274
Catholic; most would call me devout, although I have a lot of improvement ahead.

I worship Madoka.

>>4361392

Hahahahaha what? Nice b8 m8. I forget where I am sometimes.

>>4361394
>Surely that will be more effective than simply sitting your kid on your lap and telling him that stealing is wrong. Surely when a man at an altar in a gigantic Cathedral says stealing is wrong, the message will come across with more force.
surely. now post a source, or gtfo already

>>4361394
>implying bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, ignorance, self-depreciation, etc. Are good values
Why not teach by example? Explain values to your kids? I'm sure you could teach the positive values taught by religion just as effectively without the ceremonies and symbolism

>>4361400
>gets wrekt
>h-haha y-you troll

>>4361400
Good argument you win sir

>>4361392
This is an important theological point and I can't find an authority to settle it for us.

>>4361405
nice copout loser

>>4361403

rekt? Your fedora yo.

The conquering of death IS the resurrection.

>>4361408
You just agreed with the post you claimed was trolling lol

>>4361408
... yes, so he died and resurrected

keyword: died

>>4361410

That post says that you can't return from the dead if you weren't dead. Christ was dead. And was resurrected.

Or is it the through him part that he doesn't understand?

>>4361408
you seem confused

>>4361414

"How do you return from the dead if you weren't dead in the first place" is where the confusion lies.

>>4361413
Where are the two posts disagreeing

>>4361402
>Why not teach by example? Explain values to your kids? I'm sure you could teach the positive values taught by religion just as effectively without the ceremonies and symbolism

This is a similar point to what Protestants like to make, "if God can hear me anywhere, why do I have to go to a priest to confess my sins?" I tried explaining this to my mother the other night. I used an analogy - if you have a dead relative you can honour him by laying flowers on his grave, but you could also go into your back garden, lay down some flowers and make a prayer to him. The thing is, when you are actually there at the grave the solemnity of the situation is impressed upon you, a solemnity that you'll never get in your back garden. It's the same with confessing to a Priest - yes, you could try and make a confession in your own home, but you are comfortable and relaxed in your own home and so it's difficult to get your mind focused on the Almighty (not impossible, just difficult). When you go to a Church and a confessional, however, the gravity of the situation becomes immediately apparent to you.

It's the same with values. Yes, you can teach them the same values in your own home, but when you take them to "God's house" a stronger impression will be made upon them.

>>4361417

See

>>4361392
and>>4361384

>>4361401
>>4361377
>>4361380
try:
L.B Becker, 'Family Traditions'
or
Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, volume 50 (an issue dedicated to the political, moral, and general socialization of youth)
or
Nord and Haynes 'Religion and the Curriculum' [I think - the book isn't with me]
these, and other scholarly works, show that religion appears to be the most effective of various factors of moral socialization. There is a lot in the mix and the differences can be small, but it does seem religion is best at passing on particular morals.

>>4361420

The part that is unclear is why he said that Christ didn't die so he couldn't be resurrected but that Christ died and was resurrected.

>>4361402
you're trying too hard

>>4361423
>source
>he pastes some books written by some christian familists

pubmed research paper m8, not pseudo-science

>>4361420
The one you said to see questioned the one it was replying to and then someone tried to disagree by reiterating

>>4361418
>when you take them to God's house a stronger impression will be made
That's only if their taught to receive a stronger impression from god's house tho, why not teach them to receive a stronger impression from you
Or your house? Lol

>>4361428
No

>>4361433
XD

>>4361418
my mom made me go to church and they didn't teach me shit

go fuck yourself and preach somewhere else cunt

>>4361433

I think he is talking about the foundation for community that the church brings.

A church is a shit ton of people, sonnnn, and a lot of them are like family and shit.

>>4361431
>Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion
>Pseudo-science written by some Christian familists
You know, if you had bothered to check wikipedia before you wrote that you might not have been quite so blatant in proving your ignorance and bigotry

>>4361441

I get the feeling that nobody was able to teach you shit.

>>4361445
my family could've, if they weren't as thick as you thinking that the holy church can teach me better just because it's bigger than our house

i pity your future children

>>4361443
Yeah but community exists outside the church as well, and many churches subtly teach to shun those existing outside of the church community or force them to assimilate

>>4361448

I wasn't arguing the point, I was just reiterating. IMO they're just two means to the same end.

But to be fair, scholarly research was cited so it shouldn't be ignored.

>>4361447

Ad hominem is great. I'm not even a Christian. But my kids are going to get a choice.

Another victory for Atheism ITT :)
Free fedoras for everyone

>>4361454
it's even greater when you understand what it means, retard

Guys I keep shouting fedora but god still isn't real. What do?

>>4361457

>discrediting argument based on me being "thick" as opposed to any evidence

>discrediting argument by calling me a bad parent as opposed to any evidence

Seems fine to me.

>>4361447
we are all very sorry your mother didn't hug you enough.
No go read some Waugh and calm down

>>4361461
your argument was that church teaches better because it's bigger

my counterargument was that it didn't work for me. it's anecdotal, but i didn't pretend to offer scientific arguments

you being thick is just an insult, and you being a bad parent is just a supposition, it doesn't have anything to do with discrediting your argument

>>4361465
go force your children to learn their prayers gramps

>>4361469
they already know them
in Latin

>>4361474
that's impressive, but they could've learned something useful in this time instead

>>4361474
Does God even speak latin loser?

Secular Buddhist

>>4361474
What do you think of Pope Francis, Married Oldfag?

>>4361366
God is dead does not mean a literal god ceased to exist you dumby

>>4361482
me too

>>4361478
My oldest two are reading Augustus and Cicero in the original language - how is learning a foreign language a bad idea, again?

>>4361481
Latin is a 'universal language' that can be used by anyone in the Church

>>4361484
A great leader of the Church and not nearly as Liberal as the press wishes he were

>>4361494
Why would a devout Christian be browsing such an immoral website as 4chan

>>4361278
>>4361281
>>4361286
m-me too

>>4361494
>foreign language
What foreign country is speaking latin exactly?

>>4361286
>I wouldn't force them to practice when they got older, but I would certainly introduce them to the faith.
Can you explain why you would do this?

>>4361504
The same reason for why I'll tell them Santa exists until they figure it out

>>4361503
Is the ancient Roman Empire not foreign to you?

>>4361500
Should I only speak to other devout Catholics?
No, I shouldn't - I should reach out and speak to anyone.
Besides, I tend to stick to /lit/, /pol/, /adv/, and /g/ - not exactly the Vatican's website, but not /b/, either

Epicureanism.

>>4361503
Rome
and, of course, there were a few scholars here and there since

>>4361510
Using a trip code gives the sense that you are a frequent visitor of this site, an established member of the community here. You don't have to speak exclusively to Catholics, but surely your beliefs would compel you to avoid this type of community and contribute to more noble ones?

>>4361506
Just my opinion, but this is a terrible idea.
My kids always knew that the Santa Claus of TV, etc., is based upon St. Nicholas and that St. Nicholas has been dead of 1,500+ years.
I despise how pop culture wants us to actively lie to our kids

>>4361516
I mainly use a trip code because I got tired of the 'I said this/no, I did/no, that isn't OP/yes it is' BS
I spend plenty of time teaching theology and leading workshops for Catholic teens - but where is the faith needed more than where it is not, yet?

>>4361517
>I despise how pop culture wants us to actively lie to our kids
>His kids are religious
top kek

>>4361521
>Religion
>Pop culture

>Religion
>A lie in all cases

>>4361521
Telling someone something you believe to be true isn't lying

>>4361521
"The proper response to man who says 'there is no God' is laughter"

>>4361517
>pop culture wants
¿What?

I'm Greek Orthodox but I am more of an openly spiritual person than a religious one. Love the general idea of Buddhism lately to be honest.

>>4361534
So you are really a lukewarm new-ager who likes to dabble in "spirituality" because you can't be satisfied with devoting yourself to one things.

>>4361525
both true
>>4361529
>lying to yourself isn't lying
>>4361530
i thought you were here to save us not to laugh at us ;_; goes to show you how consistent the average religious fag is

Dionysian

>>4361531
perhaps 'general culture' - the concept that we maintain the illusion of Santa Claus as a jolly (and largely secular) man who lives at the North Pole, etc. Now, I am OK with fakelore and don't mind *too* much that it is a commercialization of Catholic fests all jumbled around and distorted, but find the idea of 'we will actively fool the kids until they figure it out on their own' a terrible concept.

>>4361506
Wait so do you believe in the Catholic faith or not? I'm not clear on this?

>>4361538
I am not here to save you, I am here to talk
And the statement 'there is no God' in this context deserves mockery.
Did you write
>>4361521
?

>>4361537
No, I am devoted to one 'thing'. I believe in the Christian teaching of God and Jesus and no other 'gods'. I just also believe in and practice other spiritual things not pertaining to religion in particular, like astral travel, spirits, auras etc. I'm also not a heavily practicing Christian, I don't go to church weekly or pany shit like that, hence me saying that I'm not particularly religious.

>>4361540
It's just such a weird way of putting it. If you had questioned people lying to their children, then I wouldn't have questioned it. But the way you personified the "general culture" was just kind of weird.
I'm not implying that you in any way deluded, but rather that you have an interesting turn of phrase. "pop culture wants"

>>4361504
I'm the person you're responding to.

I would do it initially uphold family traditions and provide stability and custom to their lives, but as they mature give them the option of choosing their own path.

>>4361554
>provide stability
lol

>>4361538
The statement about it being a lie can be argued, but if you actually think religion is pop culture then you have no idea what you're talking about.
Try to learn what something means before using it in a conversation.

None, although I kinda wish I was raised religious because of how much happier and statistically less prone to depression those with faith are. Converting at this point would just alienate me from a lot of family and friends.

>>4361556
What's funny about that?

>>4361562
that you think so

>>4361565
The time honoured traditions of the Catholic faith do provide a sense of stability, both intellectually and practically. Why do you not think so?

>>4361565
This is actual fedora tier atheism, or perhaps just fedora tier trolling

>>4361567
because i actually went to a catholic school and i know how "stable" were the kids there

it's funny because one of them ended up in jail lmao

Christian, attending protestant church's.

>>4361567
Don't try to argue with this guy, there is not point.

>>4361568
sure kid, epic meme right there good job

None.

>>4361418
Your preconceptions are so fully ingrained that you don't even realize how extraordinarily arbitrary your claims are.

>The thing is, when you are actually there at the grave the solemnity of the situation is impressed upon you, a solemnity that you'll never get in your back garden.

This is a very revealing statement. This entire post is simply an assertion that socially-constructed symbolic weight is necessary for experiences associated with said social construct. This is identical in form to saying "People can't really experience sex unless they're in the bedroom."

>>4361571
Your anecdotal evidence is compelling. I could easily site people I know who have received a Catholic education and have done exceptionally well.

>>4361580
google catholic kid jailed/arrested or something. i'm sure my classmate wasn't the only one.

>anecdotal evidence
heh.
if we're playing this game, then you said it provides stability, so you go right ahead and bring a source citing that catholic kids are more stable than the average kid.

OP here again

How do I be a better catholic. I went to mass for the first time in a while for a baptism and I somewhat enjoyed listening to what the priest was saying and the whole vibe.

Should I go to confession first

>>4361512
Hows your path to tranquility?

I used to believe there was a significant difference between Protestants and Catholics, but after years of experience interacting with them, they seem to be equally legit, or equally ridiculous depending on your viewpoint.
It's either funny or tragic to look back on their past animosity and to see so much in common

>>4361580
His evidence is anecdotal but on the other hand you're missing the point--the original claim was that such a religious atmosphere provides stability that is absent elsewhere. So it's not enough for you to point to people who received a Catholic education who did exceptionally well. You need to show that across the population of people educated in religion, there is more stability. The fact that some catholic students are miscreants shows that the stability isn't universal (which no reasonable person would expect it to be).

Not believer but went through catholic baptism, first communion and then confirmation.

>>4361549
Hmmm. Maybe it is because of the experiences i have had as someone who does not do this coloring my perceptions

>>4361274
im sure if i read up on some stuff, i would have a more specific answer. but for now, i just go with agnostic theist

>>4361549
what's wrong with blaming the pop culture for this?

>>4361588
Confession, prayer at home, regular attendance at Mass, and time with other Catholics who are 'further along'. Consider a devotion to the Sacred Heart and a daily decade of the rosary, too. In a year or so if you still feel that you have more growth ahead of you an investiture in the brown scapular is good, too

>>4361274
I don't practice any religion that I'm aware of.

>>4361608
It was about personifying the pop culture, implying that it had wants, rather then trends, rituals, memes. etc.
Also, the "Little kids are told to believe in Santa Claus" is more of a thing in media then in real life. My experience has been that young children do not treat Santa Claus as any different than other fictional characters.
It'd be if I said "Pop culture wants us to take our kids trick or treating." It takes this small piece of societal heritage and conflates it to being much more important than it really is.
I'm not criticizing anon for his beliefs, I'm just saying his post makes 'telling kids that there's a santa claus' sound like so much more an important thing than it is.

Orthodox Kierkegaardian here.

But I do have a fondness for pagan Indo-European mythology.

Militant atheist, and no amount of typical 4chan metaedginess can change this.

Get wrekt

>>4361328
Good man.

atheist hindu

>>4361284
I hope you're a Shia.

Sunni Islam is a degeneracy. I'm amazed how 80% of the muslim population aren't even real muslims.

> they actually think Ali wasn't intended to be the first Caliph
> they think Aisha is the greatest woman

wow are these niggas for real

>>4361677
no one cares loser

>>4361677
>one dune coon is better than the other

HA

>>4361683
>>4361685
> oh vey
> Israel has never lost a war!

>>4361699
fuck kikes too

>>4361590
Do you mean 'how's it going' or 'what are your methods'?

>>4361497
>Communist
>Liberal

Of course not

>>4361702
You will never be a modest Shi'a Aryan girl.

>>4361708
I meant why are you such a tremendous faggot

>>4361713
This is a good thing.

Deism > All

>Raised Jehovah's Witness
>Crazy doomsday cult
>Stopped believing, went total euphoric fedoratheist at 15
>Still non-religious, but interested in Christianity and other faiths.
>tfw read bible cover to cover, at least i get every religion question right in any trivia game.

I might walk into some liberal protestant church sometime just to see what it's all about.

>>4361713

>>4361726
>implying being nice is something directly related to deism
kek

>>4361725
> "It's a good thing I'm not her" - Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ

>>4361745
>flat breast

>>4361731
So you're an agnostic?
Give Deism a shot.

>>4361735
It was an unrelated picture.

>>4361750
every rational man is agnostic you shitface

>>4361750
Is there much to deism though? Like are there deistic churches or is there some sort of deistic moral code?

I always thought deism was "There's an intelligent designer who set the universe in motion" and pretty much just that.

Agnosticism with some tenants of Christian morality.

>ctrl+f "discordianism"
>phrase not found

what the fuuck?

>>4361763
I suppose I was trying to dissuade you from going to a church. It is a kind of science-as-religion.
In a nutshell, the Thomas Paine quote.
"The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

>>4361748
>He wants to see breasts
>>>/s/

>>4361791
That Thomas Paine quote is more or less what I believe. Though I really have no clue if there's any sort of God out there or not.

If I do go to a church, it'll probably just be to try it out once or twice. I guess i just sorta want to be a "cultural christian."

>>4361791
And a paraphrase that's maybe better
“My own mind is my church, the world is my country, to do good is my religion”

/out

so in vim, dd not only deletes a line, but it also puts it in the clipboard

what if i just want to delete a line so it doesn't overwrite whatever i have in my clipboard?

>>4361814
>My own mind is my church,
That's a pretty bad place to have your Church, because your mind is probably filthy every now and then.
This is Humanism, putting man above God, and it is abominable. You can't worship something that is unclean as though it were clean, and the human mind is not clean.

>the world is my country
cosmopolitanism a shit

>to do good is my religion
Man cannot do good through his own capacities because of original sin.

>>4361834
XDDDDDDDD

Gnosticism, with elements of Zen Buddhism and Discordianism.

lel just kidding

>>4361834
Whether God exists is unknowable, but religion is certainly man-made.

The noblest good is to do good for the sake of good itself, not out of fear of hell or desire for reward.

>>4361834
>This is Humanism, putting man above God, and it is abominable. You can't worship something that is unclean as though it were clean, and the human mind is not clean.
That's not what humanism is.
You're officially too stupid to understand Christian Humanism, the Secular kind is completely beyond you.

Jewish.

I have studied a lot and have deep admiration for Buddhism, but I reject quite a few of its aspects so I'm not sure if I'd consider myself that.

>>4361612
then from there just two Hail Mary's, a Glory Be, four easy payments of $19.99, an Our Father, five Box Tops™, and a Gold Subscription to the Catholic Church

Fideist trying to be deist.

>>4361274
Diamond Approach student.

Raised in a Catholic family, I gave up on it and went through the standard "religion is for sheeps" phase, then through an occultism/new age spirituality phase, and now I'm just undecided and trying to learn more about Christianity, and the concept of strong faith in general.

It seems a lot of people that went go through various experiences eventually settle on Christianity and I'm trying to find out why it's so compelling.

I was always a semi-qausi discordian, then I had my fedora phase, then I realized that being a non-Godist was djedejnetacy and now I'm a moderate Toaist-Heideggerian-Averoessist-Headupyourownassist

Just kidding, never been religious, probably never will be, studied religion recently, find it only historically interesting

>>4361791
>>4361814

Butterfly, can you explain how this thread is /lit/-related?

>>4361274

Shi'ite Islam is best Islam

Atheist. I deny all religion as absolute nonsense. I'm not sure what "created" the universe, but all interpetations through religion(s) are absolutely ridiculous.

"I dont know what's in the closet so it must be a big yellow dragon who wants me to pray every day"


Oh and the whole 'Fedora hurr durr Euphoric' bullshit has to be the biggest straw man argument ever brought forward against me.

>>4362187
> not being a Knight of Faith
> not knowing that faith is not rational
> not accepting that man cannot exist by reason alone
> thinks truth is the same thing as knowledge
> doesn't realize that only G-d can prove its existence to you
> thinks Repetition isn't possible
> probably has shit hair too

kek

let Being speak through you, faggot.

>>4362187
The fedora meme isn't even a straw man
It's less somehow, it's the dibble out the side of the mouth of a theists with no argument

>>4362200
>>4362187
The fedora reactionaries are an entirely appropriate response to Dawkins new-atheism.

Such an annoying, misguided form of atheism.

Be a Hegelian atheist, an apatheist, or just fuck off. New-atheists are cancer.

>>4362210

This. The fedora shit is a valid response to new-atheist shit heads who can't be argued with because of how retarded their logic is

Lay buddhist/atheist/general skepticism

>>4362187
>religion is all about creation myths and the nature of reality

If you're gonna be an atheist because you favor reason then at least know what you're talking about.

I used to consider myself a Zen Buddhist until I realized I was just full of shit and misunderstood most of what I read.

Now I just consider myself non-religious with an interest in mysticism, gnosticism, neo-paganism, Zen and heretical Christianity. Basically I'm scum.

I'm a Catholic vicar general (i.e. a priest appointed to do all my bishop's errands).

>>4362210
>>4362212
Yeah...
You can just ignore it you know
I immediately consider any fedora poster just as obnoxious and insufferable as modern atheists

>>4362174
i have the same question.

also, why is there a thread about film on the front page?

>>4362238
Have you seen the one on video games as art?

>>4361503
Talking shit about someone learning Latin? Why are you even on /lit/?

>>4362249

What the fuck is Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ doing to this board?

Any lit-related thread that doesn't square with her politics or sensitivities is deleted for being "off-topic" -- and now our front page is plastered with banal, genuinely off-topic subjects.

Email admin@4chan.org to complain. The more people that start speaking up, the quicker she'll get ousted.

>real talk
>religion
You lost me there....nah, you never had me

I don't even fucking know. I'm open to the idea of a creator, even if I don't believe in it. My main thing is that I do not believe in the concept of divinity, but I also recognize that it is impossible to know for certain whether or not there is something divine.
I guess I'll mark myself down for agnostic.

Whatever fucktarded name you want to call somebody who exercises his will so that the will grows healthy and strong

>people unironically being discordians

>>4362333
You don't have will, Mr. Roboto.

>>4362353
Prove it

>>4362353
>>4362367
I'm waiting

>>4361274
I don't know ;__;

>>4362367
See?

>>4362386
See what?

>>4361349
>logic leads to atheism
this is a fallacy

>>4362353
Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.

>>4362385
me neither
should be alright as long as we act good I guess

>>4362398
Prove it

I'm not religious, but if I had to pick one I'd say pagan I guess. I like its philosophical simplicity and interesting tradition. Philosophically, though, I'd say I've been more influenced by Daoism.

I'm an Atheist, but I tend to read Buddhist scriptures and Chinese philosophy (Mencius, Zhuangzi, etc)

Christian - Baptist
Pretty sure I'm the only one on 4chan.
/lit/ is the only board on this site I feel comfortable on.

>>4362398
>>4362404
>>4362386
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>>4362367
Wow great discourse guys.
You sure proved fuck all

>>4362417
you're not alone. I was raised as an evangelical christian; loved it till i didn't-->same reasons why anyone loses faith (science seemed to contradict religion); realized that science and God (If not religion) are compatible later on in life, but was still on the fence; I had a spiritual revelation when I was 20; Now I describe myself as a pantheist, but I attend a baptist church because the gf; I really like Christian morals except for the fundi stuff.

I enjoy religion for it's community, and I'm getting out of the phase of "my relationship with God doesn't depend on religion" But dogma still rubs me the wrong way. We all have faults but I have trouble forgiving irrationality though I know it's the right thing to do

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>>4362452

lol faggots

inb4 fedora

>>4362460
lol ignorant of the nature of existence, you'll get it eventually though