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The chicken or the egg -- one of life’s greatest mysteries. At least, it was one of life’s greatest mysteries; it’s not anymore. On a basic level, this question deals with issues of causality (with cause and effect). The question is used to highlight instances where it is impossible to say which of two things existed first (which is the “cause” and which is the “effect”). In essence, the question goes: Chickens are hatched from eggs, so how can you have a chicken without first having an egg? But a chicken is needed in order to lay an egg that hatches into a chicken, so how can you have an egg without having a chicken?

>> No.4321148

>>4321135
As we know, we can undoubtly say that the egg which would give birth to a chicken was an egg of a prior "non-chicken" animal, but genetic mutations occured and now you can taste all those sweety chicken legs.

>> No.4321191

I guess that makes sense if you explain it that way

>> No.4321201

>>4321135
>Autism

The question is not meant to be taken literally. You're supposed to think about the paradox of something originating in itself.

>> No.4321217

>>4321201
>Autism

The question can both be taken literally and metaphorically.

btw this is old news.

>> No.4321240

>>4321201
>think about the paradox
There is no paradox you moron

>originating in itself
There is no such thing as ''origination in itself''

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>>4321135
The mutation was in the chicken, not in the egg. A bird like animal hatched from a soft egg but had the mutation that caused it to have the protein necessary for making calcified eggs. The enzyme is only in the mature animal, not the embryo.

My chem lab professor was talking about this shit while we were doing the experiment to find out how much of a chicken egg is calcium carbonate.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38238685/#.Upow9-JEL4c

>> No.4321361

>>4321135
I thought everyone knew this?

>> No.4321393

The question's to sum up the argument of creationism vs. evolution, isn't it? There's not much else to say about it.

>> No.4321422

>>4321361
This. Everyone knew this from childhood.

And this:
>>4321201
You only take it literally as a joke. The point of the question is not to be answered like that.

>> No.4323996

Another take on this is Dinosuars. They laid eggs long before anything resembling a chicken ever hatched.

>> No.4324000

>>4321135
What's interesting is the question of whether any of these analogies to infinite regression might hold up, whether it's even then a legitimate concept?

>> No.4324008

>>4323996
This. OP's a fucking autist.

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4324020

IT IS SO OBVIOUS, THAT IT IS EMBARRASSING THAT SOMEONE WOULD MAKE GRAPH OF IT.

I "SOLVED" THAT CONUNDRUM WHEN I WAS TWELVE YEARS OF AGE, IMPROMPTU, WHILST TALKING WITH A CLASSMATE.

I TOLD HIM THE "SOLUTION", AND HE LOOKED AT MY FACE WITH WHAT I INFER WAS WONDER.

HE WAS, BY "POPULAR OPINION", "THE MOST INTELLIGENT ONE" IN THE CLASS.

>> No.4324026

Chicken-like thing -> egg -> chicken

>> No.4324027

>>4324026
where did the chicken like thing come from m8

>> No.4324030

>>4323996
>>4324008
The question is obviously to be seen as idealistic, not biologically.

>> No.4324031

Mutations don't happen like this. They're far more gradual than that, or you'd notice them.

Before being a shell, it probably was a membrane, and that gradually hardened, given MILLIONS OF YEARS!, you know.

So no one came before the other, because it was gradual.

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>>4324027

chicken-like-like thing

pic related, it's a chicken-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like thing

>> No.4324041

>>4324039
this goes on forever all the way to the big bang m8

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>>4324041
>big bang

>> No.4324047

>>4324041
>big bang
Except that there were no such thing and it was made up for naive teenagers as you to believe.

>> No.4324048

>>4324020
Same here, Rei. We indigo children have truly found a home of our own in /lit/, I think.

>> No.4324049

>>4324041
U avin a giggle m8

>> No.4324051

>>4324044
the big bang was god ejaculating and his sperm bringing life to the barren emptiness of space

the universe is a womb that we are birthed from come the death of our material bodies, where we then join our parents in the realm of eternity

>> No.4324053

>>4324044
i think u mean the egg supreme m98

>> No.4324060

scrambled eggs and toast

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>>4324060
I found this captcha just a bit ago, and I'll probably get a never chance to use it, so:

Captcha; toastime there

>> No.4324396

>>4324391
>get a never
welp, time for bed