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What are some of the early warning signs of someone becoming a Stirnian? How do you recognize Stirnians? I'm really worried about my friend...

>> No.4276665

Do his posting activities on 4chan mostly consist of trolling?

>> No.4276671

>>4276665
Oh my god, yes!

He's also got ~250 copies of the same image of Stirner's face.

>> No.4276673

>>4276671
he's not your friend

>> No.4276676
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>>4276620
that's a p. cute cartoon girl

and she's not even japanese!

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4276678

Your friend is a spook.

>> No.4276677

>>4276673
who is he?

>> No.4276682

>>4276671
It's happening. He's transcending our mortal realm, he alone is corporeal among ideological spooks.

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>>4276676
>mfw i saved the thumbnail

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here you go. ahhh that's better

>> No.4276705

>>4276700
you fucker

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>>4276700
wut?

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>>4276685
It's okay, anon, I just used google image search to find it on danbooru.

>>4276700
Good thing I googled. I think I like this one better though.

>> No.4276726

Do you have trouble grasping your friend's take on the existence of morality?

If so, you may be a spook.

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4276737

You know you've become a Stirnerite when your idea of fun is trying to draw Stirner from memory.

>> No.4279271

Why did /lit/ choose this obscure and little regarded philosopher to obsess over in particular? Why Stirner, rather than, say, Godwin, Heraclitus, Dworkin or someone equally random?

>> No.4279274

>>4279271
Because libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism.

>> No.4279306

>>4279274
But why those?

I know their pretty on-trend among internet people at the moment (just as identity politics are shit hot on tumblr), but I can't really understand they've caught on rather than Mutualism, Maoism or Falangism

>> No.4279316

>>4279271
Stirner is the ultimate troll, a worthy target of admiration.

>> No.4279361

>>4279316
Is it just some big in-joke I haven't grasped?

>> No.4279371

>>4279361

Stirner is a legitimate philosopher with real things to say, but what he says is so violent and freedom-bringing so few would want to digest it. Mostly just anarchists and a select few academics appreciate his work now a days.

>> No.4279374

>>4279274
How the fuck can Stirner be applied to libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism?

Every Stirnerite I've ever met has been a die-hard insurrectionist anarchist or egoist communist.

>> No.4279379

>>4279374

I think he was implying that Stirner was the answer to fedora'd ancaps. And he'd be right in that. Property rights are very spooky.

>> No.4279383

>>4279371
My questions was less on the nature of Stirner's philosophy, than why it has taken hold on /lit/ so thoroughly.

>> No.4279422

>>4279383
He's just the flavor of the month right now.

>> No.4279479

>>4279383

It makes perfect sense to me that Stirner would be read widely and respected on 4chan.

>>4279422

You must be very new here...

>> No.4279509

>>4279479
>on 4chan
I think you mean on /lit/. I don't think the other boards have heard of him, except maybe /pol/, who either insist that natural rights are inherent to existence or declare that any moral subjectivism is "degenerate".

>> No.4279773

>>4279479
>It makes perfect sense to me that Stirner would be read widely and respected on 4chan.
Who's very new here now?

>> No.4280174

>>4276620

"He wore short blond sideburns and mustache, while his chin was always clean-shaven, and his blond, reddish, lightly curled and short-cut, soft hair left completely free his massive, domed, quite strikingly high and conspicuous forehead."

He had a mustache. All depictions of Stirner are incorrect.

>> No.4280177

>>4279271
because of that drawing

>> No.4280185
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>>4279271
Because he's actually an amazing thinker.

>> No.4280194

>>4279383
He's the ultimate iconoclast with a funny mischievousness about him which vibes well with the type of people who are drawn to 4chan.

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>>4280174
Staches come and go.

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>>4276737
fugg

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>>4280212
>mfw realizing Dilbert is actually Stirner
Holy shit. Same hairstyle, glasses, attitude toward society, etc.

>> No.4280229

>>4280224
>>4280225
Oh my God.

>> No.4280231

>>4276620
>stirner not having sex with stirner
way to ruin it

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>>4280224

>> No.4280237
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4280237

Draw Stirner thread?

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4280262

>you will never watch Spook Nukem

>> No.4280360

>>4280262
I kinda like "Duke Spookem"

>> No.4280377

>>4280360
One could be the sequel to the other and both should have vidya/movie combos.

>> No.4280698

so these guys are pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZgXfKILrI

>> No.4280711

>>4276678
He's African-American, you racist

>> No.4280747

>>4279374
>>4279379
Exclusive, absolute control over: one's own body has epistemic consequences, where they translate into ethics and law under ancap/some libertarian/anarchist thinking, one could conceivably be for some combination of these as The sole basis for egoistic association (at least on mutual basis). Anti statism across the board more or less views the State in terms of egoist unions vs. a neutral dispensers of justice and order. In economics, the emphasis on the "specific and local" nature of knowledge/economic behavior (in the egoist, individuals, unions thereof ect.) as against planned economies or forecasting the sum total of trillions of private actions, or the motivations for all those individuals. Lol fedoras, and berets for all y'all lefties

>> No.4280761

>>4279379
>property
Not spooky. If you don't have exclusive control/right over your body, my peen suddenly entering your colon despite your protestations isn't significant (who is declining the buttsex in that case, anyway?)

>> No.4280774

>>4279383
Because the internet -and 4chan especially- is as good an example of egoistic association/unions/action as there can be, the results are manifestly superior (comparing to narrative msm media distribution of previous generations), and morality is mostly extraneous/irrelevant to the functioning of any of this, only argumentation/logical justification insofar as required by language

>> No.4280786

>>4279271
Because he transcends academia and goes his own way.
Stirner is not an endpoint, but he is a good dialectical point and he is a gift that keeps giving.

>> No.4280796

>>4279383
Because the kind of people who go to 4chan tend to be egoistic, and enjoy bracingly nihilistic, irreverent philosophy, as well as getting to the bottom of things. Hence the frank discussion and /pol/'s obsession with redpilling. Also, as the other poster pointed out, most of 4chan is a union of egoists, with the concern for appearing moral dropped away by anonymity.

>> No.4280801

>>4280796
>most of 4chan is a union of egoists
You know, I've never thought about it that way, but you're right.

>> No.4280799

>>4280224
I laughed heartily out loud.

>> No.4281030

>>4276620
friendship is a spook

>> No.4281344

>>4280698
>look for stirner on youtube
>find big tittied middle aged women talking marx and stirner

wtf man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDoM6C0xHKo

>> No.4281387

>>4280185
Oh god

>> No.4281404

/r/ing image of Stirner as ghost buster

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>>4280237

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>>4281404

>> No.4281422
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>>4281421

>> No.4281449

>all these people saying stirner is flavor of the month
This has been going on for months, that's a lot of flavoring.

>> No.4281474

>>4276620
When they get out of the mopy existential crisis and they seem eerily content without any new values and ideals to show for it. When they set up camp in the void because they like it there. You can see that malicious twinkle in their eyes and it's too late. They will never be decent people again. You should drive a stake through his heart. Remember, he isn't your friend any more. Jolly nihilists are the most scary thing on earth and should be put in camps before they corrupt the rest of us.

>> No.4281505

>>4281474
>Jolly nihilists are the most scary thing on earth and should be put in camps before they corrupt the rest of us.
>should
this one is in a dire need of despooking

>> No.4281503

>>4281474
Shut up you shallow cunt.

>> No.4281508

>>4281503
>>4281505
I loved it as a piece of writing.

>> No.4281523

>>4281505
Come now, anon, you can see how it logically follows from a respect of values that the valueless should have a fate and one different from the rest. "Should" isn't where it became an issue of conflicting premises- if it were, >>4281474 is perfectly right from assumptions and even were there later fallacy, it would not invalidate anon's conclusions. If you care about despooking why aren't you driving nonstop to his house to stab him and scatter deathmetal paraphernalia rather than shit posting in yet another Stirner thread? At least then you'd be living prejudice not relearing bias.

>>4281474
Jolly nihilist here. Burning everything would be much more efficient to eliminate corruption.

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post your drawing lads

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>> No.4281532

ascii max when?

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>>4281474
>mfw this is basically me

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>>4281532
last year m8

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>>4281527

>> No.4281555

values aren't an actual, real thing, this word is just a description of a complex relationships between objects and subjects, a fact which simpletons often overlook in their ever-recurring logical fallacy of taking a map for the territory

for all intents and purposes it is impossible for a concious being to not have values, nihilists or not notwithstanding

>logic leads to and only to muhhhhh personal values, what a coincidence!
this is what asinine /pol/ dwellers actually believe

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4281556

going in2deep now

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4281574

getting symbolic

>> No.4281576
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4281576

It turned into a monstrosity.

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i no longer4€

>> No.4281578

>>4281576
I should've made it "Stirned"

>> No.4281582
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Italian avant-garde Stirner

>> No.4282227

>>4281523
>it logically follows from a respect of values that the valueless should have a fate and one different from the rest
This is the dumbest shit I've read on 4chan in a while, and I just closed a thread where a self-professed paedophile who considered the repression of his urges towards children a 'daily struggle', called for a death penalty on loli and thought that Lolita was bad because Humbert's feelings towards Lo weren't 'romantic' enough.

>> No.4282232

>want to suicide
>No guns here in Netherlands
Guess I'll just buy a carbon monoxide meter, some coal and a tent I'll seal off.

Is this Stirnerian enough? (nihilism destroyed me in the end)

>> No.4282256

>>4282232
There is no such thing as a Stirnerist act, because there is no Stirnerist should. But if nihilism destroys you, you seem merely a spookfag in denial than anything close to a Stirnerist.

Also, exit bags and varieties are far from fool proof and you may very well end up a vegetable who's denied the options to end it for the next thirty years. If you want to be sure jump of something a few hundred meters high.

Also, guns are quite easy to get here medelander.

>> No.4282276

>>4282256
The cost of an exit bag is a little more than that of carbon monoxide, both will do an equal job provided nobody interferes.Setup is probably equally easy
With the monoxide meter I can do a test run without me in the tent and see if enough CO is generated.
Both should be failproof, the monoxide just seems easier to me.

>Also, guns are quite easy to get here medelander.
Probably, but I have zero connections unless I pay a visit to my grandparents again and manage to steal that .22lr rifle, though that calibre is rather small.

>> No.4282280

>>4282276
Why do you want to kill yourself anyway?

>> No.4282295

>>4282280
Can't find happiness and have some self defeating tendencies which don't make it easier.
I probably won't be missed by anyone anyway.
Last few weeks were the final straw.

>> No.4282369

>>4282295
Adjusting expectations can go a long way towards getting happy and self defeating tendencies (habits) can be neutralised for a large part. Unless you're clinically depressed, in which case meds. Have you tried the shrink route?

>> No.4282388

>>4282369
>the shrink route
Is that trying to lower expectations so I prevent getting myself hurt when I fail to meet them?
Done that already and it's way easier said than done.

>> No.4282396

I wonder how many people here who claim to be Stirnerists have actually read The Ego and its Own (quotes on the internet or wikipedia summaries do NOT count)

>> No.4282401

>>4282388
No that's getting on meds or in therapy or both. Don't off yourself before you try all the common cures, it's a small effort and there's nothing to lose and everything to be gained. Sounds trite as hell but I'm quite content with not having killed myself in the past.

>> No.4282403

>>4282396
Probably most of them baby boo.

>> No.4282405

>>4282401
Might be a good idea to get in therapy then before making my decision again.
It's not like death will run away or something.
Thanks.

>> No.4282417

>>4282405
Indeed. Good luck.

Also, make sure you don't overlook possible ways to live your life. I've been on welfare for the last year and I haven't been this happy since I was shitting myself. Your problems with life may be more circumstantial than fundamental than you think. There are loopholes.