/lit/ - Literature

>libertarian

Economics textbook

Oh, it's this troll thread again.
Hint: You''re a faggot shit mucnhing piece of refuse mother fucking cock sucker.

>>425798
why u mad, butthurt anon?

A must-read.

>>425798
you didn't finish your quote.

>>425793
>statist

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camus was a syndicalist you stupid fuck.

>>425836
he was a libertarian anarchist, an anti-communist, an anti-Marxist, a voluntarist, and above all else an individualist

he was not a "syndicalist" in any collectivist or individually involuntary sense of the term.

lol same thread on /b/

>>425847
it's also in /new/

>>425856
it's on every board

>>425842
he was an anarchist, a communist, and above all else an individual

he was not a "capitalist" in (the only) dirty and malformed brain sense of the term.

>>425868
>albert camus was a communist

The famous ‘going beyond’ Marxism in an idealistic and humanitarian direction is a joke and an idle dream. It is impossible to ‘go beyond’ Marx, for he himself carried his thought to its extreme logical consequences. The Communists have a solid logical basis for using lies and violence.
- Albert Camus, The Self-Deception of the Socialist

More and more, when faced with the world of men, the only reaction is one of individualism. Man alone is an end unto himself. Everything one tries to do for he common good ends in failure.
- Albert Camus, The Rebel

>>425874
>making up quotes

>>425885
They're sourced. Google them, mad ignorant butthurt dumbtard.

ann ranned

>>425891
>allegding nonexistent sources

>>425891
You've been proven a liar before Camus fag, particularly by your misuse of the mid twentieth century meanings of Libertarian in France and your inability to deal with the complexities of working class French politics in the 1950s.

Please, drink yourself to death.

>>425897
u

>>425901
resorting to ad hominems

>>425900
That's a whole lot of butthurt you've got there in your unsupported assertions and childish generalizations there, mad anon.

On the very day when the Caesarian socialist revolution triumphed over the syndicalist and libertarian spirits, revolutionary thought lost, in itself, a counterpoise of which it cannot, without decaying, deprive itself. This counterpoise, this spirit which takes the measure of life, is the same that animates the long tradition that can be called solitary thought, in which since time of the Greeks, nature has always been weighed against evolution. …The commune against the State, concrete society against absolutist society, deliberate freedom against rationalized tyranny, finally altruistic individualism against the colonization of the masses, are, then the contradictions that express once again the endless opposition of moderation to excess which has animated the history of the Occident since time of the ancient world.
…
Rebellious thought has not ceased to deny this demand in the presence of bourgeois nihilism as well as of Caesarian socialism. Authoritarian thought, by means of three wars and thanks to the physical destruction of a revolutionary elite, has succeeded in submerging this libertarian tradition. But this barren victory is only provisional; the battle still continues.
- Albert Camus, The Rebel

>>425915
making up quotes and using pseudo-words

>>425922
that you?

>>425915
>Authoritarian thought, by means of three wars and thanks to the physical destruction of a revolutionary elite, has succeeded in submerging this libertarian tradition.

Who the fuck do you think Camus is suggesting as the revolutionary elite which is "syndicalist and libertarian"? Go read up on your Serge and Bonnot gang.

>>425927
The Bonnot gang were individualist anarchists, genius... and he supported them insofar as they were in opposition to the State. He was, after all, primarily an individualist.

Man alone is an end unto himself. Everything one tries to do for he common good ends in failure.
- Albert Camus, The Rebel

Man alone is an end unto himself. Everything one tries to do for he common good ends in failure.
- Albert Camus, The Rebel

Man alone is an end unto himself. Everything one tries to do for he common good ends in failure.
- Albert Camus, The Rebel

Counter-troll here.
Great victory is declared.

>>425936
you were called out as a failtroll
you cannot victory now

>>425942

>>425885


http://www.ppu.org.uk/e_publications/camus3.html

>>425957

THIS IS A WORK SAFE BOARD
the next time you post something like this at least make it look like a book
f.e.

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Alfred Jarry

>individualist

>>425962
looks interesting

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Nietszhe's "Human, All Too Human" was profoundly individualist and libertarian.

>>425985
Also, Max Stirner "the Ego and his Own"

>>libertarian/capitalist/individualist

Equating L and I with C is very dangerous

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These threads seem like a subtle effort to discredit individualism.

>>425989
They are fundamentally the same - advocacy and prioritization of individiually voluntary human interaction over collectivism and statism.

>>425999
why?

>>426001

Equating it exclusively with L & C is dangerous, rather

>>426005
Depends on the context and precise definition, but by the standard definition they are fundamentally the same or at least based on the same premises.

>>426004
For one individualism has, on the whole, been associated with voluntarist utopians usually of working class backgrounds, with strong moral compasses who correctly quote and summarise those they use (even while being autodidact and eclectic).

For another, CamusTroll is the equivalent of your campus Trotskyite: as ignorant of his own political tradition as he is of those he attacks with a lame stridency.

In the third, the association between individualism and an attempt at an apologetic for corporate capitalism.

>>426033
You think Camus was a troll?

Camus was a republican.

Camus was a collectivist

>>426033
so individualists who understand modern economics and thus don't employ class jargon don't have a "moral compass?" sounds kooky to me.

>>426037
>derp

Camus was a pirate.

Camus was a Twilight fanboy.

>Libertarians
>understand modern economics
>most of them are ideological worshippers of Mises while ignoring that all the important aspects of von Hayek's philosophy was snapped up by the rest a long time ago.
>Calls everything but Mises shite Keynesian.

>>425999

'Individualism' in most capitalist tracts is essentially just consumerism

>>426035
CamusTroll is a troll.

Camus was a mid twentieth century French author.

>>426038
>>individualism has... been associated with voluntarist utopians usually of working class backgrounds, with strong moral compasses
>so individualists who understand modern economics and thus don't employ class jargon don't have a "moral compass?"

No, individualists who use twentieth century Western economics and don't employ class jargon# may or may not have a moral compass. The comparison above is that *they are atypical of the vast majority of individualists in history*. This does not necessitate that they are the exclusive limits of individualism, but it does indicate that CamusTroll is deliberately misrepresenting the nature of individualism as a tendency within anarchism; much as he misuses "libertarian" which has a fairly specific meaning in French.

(# Have we forgotten Velben and Keynes so easily? Your summary is limited)