/lit/ - Literature

>>4223716


a shit

inb4 random anons all know better than doctors

>>4223716

Interesting review here:

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/book-of-lamentations/

irrelevant outside USA

>>4223740

I'm from Argentina, arguably the most psychoanalytic country in the world, and it's relevant here.

I'm studying psychology btw (no interested in psychoanalysis nor clinical psy though)

Even the NIMH realized how backwards it is:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2013/transforming-diagnosis.shtml

>>4223733
We probably do because we haven't been brainwashed by doctor school. The western school of medicine is only one viewpoint. I happen to choose another viewpoint.

>>4223746
>I'm from Argentina, arguably the most psychoanalytic country in the world

WHY?

>>4223770

why what?

The DSM-V and ICD 10 are extremely important books. I don't see how this could even be argued. Then I remember what board I'm on.

>>4223771

ARE YOU COGNITIVELY IMPAIRED?

WHY IS ARGENTINA ARGUABLY "THE MOST PSYCHOANALYTIC COUNTRY IN THE WORLD"?

i hate because im a rebel who doesn't listen to medical big brother like those doctor sheeple

>>4223775
pls don't yell to me

Because it's the only country (apart from France I think) where psychoanalysis is still taught in psychology schools (and in most schools is the only thing that it's taught).

What I find funny is that some of you are trying to appeal to science ("lel i'm sure u know better than doctors!" and the classic "this is very important book! hrhrhrhrhr") when the DSM is incredibly unscientific and famously uses non-objective diagnostic categories.

Which is why, as another anon pointed out, there is an increasing backlash toward it in the medical community. The NIMH is "orienting itself away" from the DSM and has heavily criticized it for these reasons.

>>4223770
>>4223775

Could you be any more conceited?

Fuck off.

actual psych resident here
I suspect there are a lot current & former psych patients on 4chan, so this might be useful to you but take this with a pinch of salt, like everything here

dsm is to psychiatry what the owner's manual you find in the glove compartment is to your car : it will tell you what are the differents parts/symptoms of your car/diagnosis, sometimes it will tell you how they articulate together, but even if you know it by heart, you won't know anything about driving/psychiatry

It is only a mean to code diagnosis so that professional can talk to each other, epidemiologise stuff, and justify prescriptions.

In other words, it is completely, utterly useless to a "civilian" (a guy who cannot drive/ a guy who cannot prescribe)

Concerning the recent controversy about the latest version, about what should/shouldn't be in dsm, etc, etc... it is a psychiatry politics debate, with marked sides and big interests for a lot of people, but it is meaningless if you're not a shrink

when both the society and the patient HIMSELF want the patient under medication/therapy, then you'll better have to make up a diagnosis to fucking medicate and therapeutize his ass. hence, this book

see the more educated opinion of a lot more experienced psychiatrist than me, which resumes it all:

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/temper_tantrums_in_the_dsm.html

>>4223802
I'm not a shrink, but I don't see it as entirely useless. Information that goes into the DSM should always be available to the masses.

>>4223759
Very interesting article.

Its bad, as it basic tries to make everyone insane.

>>4223802
I want to be a shrink that doesn't give out meds. How do I go about this? What do you recommend?

>>4225802
A shrink without meds is like a snake without venom.

>>4225810
Why can't I just talk to people to help them without altering their brain chemistry?

>>4225824
You can but they won't be interested. Shrinks are treated as walking depositories for pharmaceuticals these days.

>>4225831
Yeah I kinda figured that, but is there truly no market at all for just talking out the problems without the pills? What if it is cheaper?

>>4223802


>full popper

i could tell he whent on 4chan.

>>4225833


talking out problems implies a solution, ie, a superior juidgement. this is not congruent with the basis of liberal political theory (ie, the contemporary socio-political environment), which is predicated on the leveling of moral preference (in theory anyways, in practice the dissolution is usualy reserved only for whatever upsets the most people).

>>4223716
DSM/ICD - As good as reading a horoscope, except when you're forced to talk to a doctor.
In that case it may be helpful to know what to say and what not to say, so they get their job done quickly and leave you alone.

bullshit to help pharmaceutical profits.

>gender identity disorder is now "gender dysphoria"

>>4225802
become a clinical psychologist,aka a therapist

you won't be exactly a psychiatrist ( no diagnosises, no prescription ) but a mental health professional, but in the end it's not important, a lot of psychiatrist turn to therapy for interest and $$

>Study clinical psychology,

>choose carefully ONE chapel (psychoanalysis, CBT, etc...) and 1-2 niche ( pediatrics, family, depression, ocd, addiction, sex-therapy ...)

>LEARN SPANISH

And the most important thing, you have to build a network, psychiatrists have to know you and that they can work with you for a given patient, then they will refer a lot of patients to you and you will make $$ so advertise yourself

>>4225810
plenty of snakes spieces don't have venom and are perfectly adapted to their environement anon

>>4223802
>Concerning the recent controversy about the latest version, about what should/shouldn't be in dsm
Psych first year here.

What was it about?
Does it have anything to do with the SJ thing?

>>4225988
>That comic
It's hilarious because it's true