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4207748 No.4207748[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why do girls pretend to like the old man and the sea?

>> No.4207760

accessibility, it's a shit book in all honesty. i think critics only liked it because Hemingway was so depressed at the time.

>> No.4207763

>>4207748
They do?
It's a pretty manly story.
I guess they want to men.

>> No.4207770

a) hemingway has some literary cred (which he really shouldn't have)
b) it's not one of his "main" works, so even more cred
c) it sells masculinity in a way accessible to woman as well, I suspect

tl;dr: it's just a cultural accessory, move on

>> No.4207768

>>4207763
*want to be men

>> No.4207771

>>4207760
>it's a shit book in all honesty

top lel

>> No.4207773

>>4207760
>i think critics only liked it because Hemingway was so depressed at the time.
You have a rather sympathetic view of critics.

>> No.4207779

>>4207771
No seriously, it's pretty bad. Flat characters, weak story trying too hard to be poignant, shit writing. luckily it's short and Hemingway uses simple words which makes it easy for women to digest.

>> No.4207788

>>4207779

Are you American?

>> No.4207793

>>4207788
nope

>> No.4207794

>>4207793
Ok, you're just retarded then

>> No.4207791

>>4207748
because they saw me reading last we and want to get in my pants.

>> No.4207804

>>4207794
Such butthurt. get over it, it's a weak story. Hemingway in general is nothing special, he got by more on his charisma and persona than his actual writing.

>> No.4208069

because they have shit taste

>> No.4208084
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>>4207770
>it's not one of his "main" works

>> No.4208108

>>4207804
What significant works have you written? Way top literary magazine do you critique for again?

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>>4207770
>it's not one of his "main" works

>> No.4208119

>>4208084
people think a moveable feast, for whom the bells toll and the sun also rises when you say hemingway. i'd say old man and the sea is tier 1.5 in popularity. it's more popular than, say, to have and have not but definitely less popular than sun or bells. feast might be an edge case.

>> No.4208118

>>4207804
What significant works have you written? What top literary magazine do you critique for again?

>> No.4208146

>>4207748
They actually do like it.
It's both heart warming and masculine, so it tickles their emotions and their pussy.
Oh, and it's short too. Believe it or not, chicks don't dig sex that lasts hours.

>> No.4208152

>>4208146
whether you are or you aren't, you sound like a virgin

>> No.4208185

>>4208118

This is youtube-comment-tier logic.Simon Cowell doesn't have to be able to sing better than someone to know whether or not they are a good singer.

>> No.4208212

>>4208152
he's right though

>> No.4208216

>The Old Ones And The Sea
>The Young Man And The Bee
>The Princess and The Pea

>> No.4208225

"Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing.

This makes them incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything, and the reason for it is, I fancy, as follows. A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

>> No.4208227

>>4208225
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /r9k/

>> No.4208228

>>4208225
schopenhauer is so cute pretending that the ultimate goal of music, poetry, fine art, literature and philosophy aren't simply a way for men to impress girls.

>> No.4208251

>>4208227

I posted a relevant quote about women and literature from an eminent writer in a thread about women and a particular book, on the literature board.

"I don't like your opinion!" is not a valid reason to tell someone to leave the board.

>> No.4208258

>>4208251
>MAXIMUM AUTISM ENGAGED

>>>/r9k/

>> No.4208263

>>4207804
>weak story

2/10 made me respond.

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>>4208258

0/10

>> No.4208276

>>4208185

Simon Cowell is intimately versed in music theory and the practical end of music production. He is an expert whose opinion is worthwhile because it goes beyond "it's good" or "it's shit" -- he can elucidate specific, well-thought reasons for his judgments.

So far all you've managed to do is show you can say "it's not good." If that's the extent of your opinion, then it's worthless. Why the fuck should we be expected to give it any credence?

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>>4207748

people are in general pretty shallow and dumb, it's not just girls, just look at fedoras and neckbeards

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>>4208276
>Simon Cowell is intimately versed in music theory and the practical end of music production

>> No.4208871

Funny story. Back in high school, my English teacher had each of us pick one of two books to read and write an analysis of. He dumped out a box of these books on a table: half of them were Catch 22, the other half were All The Pretty Horses.

All the paperback covers of All The Pretty Horses featured a very gentle looking picture of Matt Damon from the Billy Bob Thornton movie. One of the prettier, more popular girls declared proudly, "This book is for girls!" And so the copies of All The Pretty Horses were subsequently snatched up by the girls of the class.

I can only imagine what they must have thought the book was about, based on the cover. I still get a laugh to this day picturing their faces as they read passages like this:

>While inside the vaulting of the ribs between his knees the darkly meated heart pumped of who's will and the blood pulsed and the bowels shifted in their massive blue convolutions of who's will and the stout thighbones and knee and cannon and the tendons like flaxen hawsers that drew and flexed and drew and flexed at their articulations of who's will all sheathed and muffled in the flesh and the hooves that stove wells in the morning groundmist and the head turning side to side and the great slavering keyboard of his teeth and the hot globes of his eyes where the world burned.

>> No.4208880

Just checking If I remember Correctly, this is the one where
[spoilers] He goes to sea by himself to go fishing and after days out there finally harpoons a massive fish and after even longer finally manages to catch it, however as he returns back to land the catch is eaten by sharks or something[/spoilers] correct? also captcha is fish-culture...