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Okay, I got Ulysses and Gifford's notes to it. I'm gonna read Ulysses first without the notes, then a second time with them. Is there anything I should know for this first time? (I've read Dubliners and Portrait, and know latin and greek) what do I need to know on this first reading? Are there any other languages used in it?

>> No.4007596

>I'm gonna read Ulysses
That eyepatched bastard has snagged another victim.

>> No.4007598

>>4007584
You really don't need to know that much, the book is actually not that hard.

>any other languages used
The common french/german/latin phrase, that's it really. If you need to, look it up.

>> No.4007601

>>4007584
>Is there anything I should know for this first time?
Remember to try enjoy reading it. It's actually a very enjoyable read if you can discard the weight of its critical reputation. It's funny and moving and serious and beautiful.

>> No.4007603

>>4007598
This. The only real reason people find ulysses hard/incomprehensible is because they aren't used to the stream of consciousness technique used in various sections of the novel.

>> No.4007613

>>4007603
And once you learn how to read Joycean SoC and get adjusted, the entire book opens up to you; save for Oxen of the Sun and Ithaca.

>> No.4007733

>>4007601
I'll make that my goal for the first reading (and the second as well, but in a different way)
>>4007598
>>4007603
>>4007613
Can I have some perspective on what you would count as a difficult book? Also Is the joycean SoC the same as in portrait?

>> No.4007745

>>4007584
JJ looks swag as fuck.

>> No.4007773

>>4007745
Bowtie, goatee, AND eyepatch?

Yes, yes, and I said yes!

If only he had a monocle in the unpatched eye.

>> No.4007782
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4007782

>>4007773
he really fucking does

that's my last.fm picture at the moment.

>> No.4007789

>>4007601
Holy shit, this; I don't know why I didn't see this before.

Not saying "holy shit" because that's profound or something, but just like wow finally someone completely gets it without 1000 posts of "muh pretenchus" before it.

>>4007733
I actually thought Gravity's Rainbow was harder than Ulysses at some parts. That may just be me though.

I would, obviously, consider Finnegans Wake difficult: it's probably the most 'difficult' piece of fiction ever conceived.

J R I'd consider difficult.