/lit/ - Literature

You've got my attention.

A text adventure / interactive fiction game would be good

Perhaps something about a pretentious 19 year old name dropping DFW and fapping to Tao Lin

i name drop barack obama
barack obama

Is Kentucky Route Zero a good example of a /lit/ VN?

it wouldnt be a visual novel if we wrote it because we wouldnt do all that nonsense about generic romance and all that kind of thing

>visual novel

>>3975687
Well to be fair, KS is an eroge for people who don't like eroge

Nope.

It's a VN. A visual novel. VISUAL. I'm sure /lit/ could be able to do the novel part better, though.

You have my pen

Easily. KS's writing was so bad, ugh. There are lots of VN that actually have incredible writing, such as Sharin no Kuni.

>>3975706
There aren't exactly a lot of visuals in KS...

>>3975713
It sure visualed my dick.

>>3975687

A visual novel is not defined by being about generic romance.

It's a medium that combines prose, images, and music

>>3975722
Well, yeah, but for your actual practical purposes, they sure seem to have a lot of it in there.

God, though, it's fun to imagine what would happen if one of the great writers could have written a visual novel... imagine what Nabokov would have done, for instance

welp, nothing left to but make a forum, get caught in a massive power struggle, bitch and moan for five years and release a sub-par product for MUH FEELS

>>3975730
Is that what happened with Katawa Shoujo

actually, wait, why am I even asking, it was an Internet project, of course that's what happened with Katawa Shoujo

>>3975730
To read a book about the actual making of Katawa Shoujo would be excelent

>>3975729
Nabokov had no visual abilities. He would hae made a mess

I'd rather ride solo and only have myself to blame when it never happens. Good luck to you guys.

>>3975742
>and only have myself to blame when it never happens
why would you want that?

>>3975742
So you can draw and compose as well then?

>>3975665
>better VN than Katawa Shoujo?
That's not very hard at all

Especially considering some of the routes and instances of writing

Who will draw the sprites?

>>3975766
We'll find other people. So, we're gonna have five routes to stick with convention. Nostalgic high school setting? Perhaps a college campus? And who are our girls?

A lot of /lit/ gets name dropped in KS...Dance Dance Dance, Life of Pi, The Crying of Lot 49, Alice in Wonderland...Hiaso is a pretty cool guy

bad visual novels are my guilty pleasure/fetish

>>3975775
Those aren't quality tomes of knowledge though...

>>3975778
>Pynchon
>Not quality

>>3975771
I-I made some girls a while back for a /lit/ choose-your-gf thing.

>Ania - blonde, librarian look, skirts
Very Euro-centric in her reading, has a distaste for American literature. A large fan of modernism and naturalism, in most of its varieties. Has read significantly more books than the other two girls. Owns a decently sized personal library of personal favorites and otherwise interesting books, uses the library often. Can speak English, Polish, Spanish, Russian, and French fluently. Rather judgmental about other people’s taste in literature. Favorite work of literature: The Street of Crocodiles.

>Ignatia - redhead in sweaters
Loves science fiction, fantasy, horror, bizarre fiction, and all other strange esoteric genre offshoots. Enjoys surrealism greatly, in all varieties. Reads almost exclusively from her Kindle, only owning a few reference books. Is a big fan of English literature, particularly medieval texts. Can only speak English fluently. Would never judge you for your taste in literature. Favorite work of literature: Collected Fictions of Borges.

>Mee - olive skin, bobbed hair, simple dresses
Very into French poetry and Victorian literature, as well as Asian theater. Has a very large personal library of thousands of books, though she’s only read about half of them. Is a moderate speed reader. Deep interest in sexuality and ancient erotic literature, owning shelves upon shelves dedicated to it. Can speak English, Chinese, and French fluently. Favorite work of literature: Jing Ping Mei.

in case some of you didn't know, Katawa Shoujo was developed by a bunch of anons from 4chan

>>3975771
Why make it standard harem? Is this the best /lit/ can think up?

Where are the crazy postmodern existential plots and magical realism?

>>3975665
the skills required to make a VN are different from the skills required to write a novel.

I'm not sure /lit/ could do it. I don't know how much overlap we have with /a/ and /jp/, and I doubt we would have as much dedication.

Keep in mind KS took three years to make.

>>3975775
such erudition

>>3975730
>sub-par product

It's at least as good as the average Japanese galge, which is impressive considering it was made by amateurs and not professionals.

>>3975801
Five, not three.

And if you wrote a script that was genuinely worth following, the art would come over time.

>>3975794
why does the third girl not exist

>>3975751
Drawing, no. But I'm actually a composer by profession.

>>3975794
Fuck yes anon, you're a bro. Now we're going places

>>3975796
>Where are the crazy postmodern existential plots and magical realism?

In the Key VN's.

>>3975809
She probably does, somewhere.

I vaguely based them off people I know, except exaggerated.

>>3975808
My point was that people on /lit/ probably wouldn't be dedicated enough to spend that many years working on a VN for no money.

>>3975801
Five, but it's only because the project was a total clusterfuck. They scrapped the game three times, had writers quit all the fucking time and had to ditch entire routes, and had their ringleader quit right when they were getting ready to finish

make that shit french as fuck

>>3975771
>five routes to stick with convention
>five routes
>convention

Is Katawa Shoujo the only galge you've ever played?

>>3975814
Except that Key still has a standard harem. Why not cut out the dating plot altogether?

>>3975817
Now that I'd definitely agree with. My point was moreso about the "skills required" bit.

Hell, I have a bit of RenPy knowhow myself along with experience in scene direction, and I can say that's more than easy enough to pick up for your average writer, even if you didn't just get an editor to do that work themselves. The writing style for a VN itself doesn't require nearly as much adjustment as you'd expect.

>>3975729
It would have just been an eroge in an middle school rather than a high school.

We should just do a chapbook of Sartre/Beauvoir slashfic

galge expert here, ask me anything

>>3975820
Contributan

Regina Hawthorne: Chubby, blonde hair not really into /lit/ but loves Dorian Gray and some other entry level shit and is really into music. Secretly loves to get drunk. Not totally socially awkward, but you play in her route you play Svengali and get her to be your literary prodigy, causing her to isolate herself from her friends and family to spend her hours in glorious conversation with Cervantes and Borges, effectively shutting herself out from the world that doesn't pertain to your penis or the written word

>>3975825
Now that's top posting

>>3975828
As is this. Well done lads.

>>3975822
>Why not cut out the dating plot altogether?

It lets you look at certain aspects of the story from different perspectives so that you can truly understand the main plot.

>>3975830
Please don't namedrop if you don't know much about literature.

>>3975830
*protege sorry I'm tight

>>3975830
shut up and take my money

>>3975835
Internet tough guy...?

>>3975841
no, just feeling contact embarrassment

>>3975729

Yeah, the VN scene is pretty niche, and even the better ones tend to still be romances. It'd be nice to see people do something else with it.

Rin>Lily>Hanako>Shizune>>>>>>>>>Emi.

>>3975858
Lily > Emi > Rin > Hanako > Shizune this is objective

>>3975829
Adopting a trip for the purposes of this thread.

VN's are a unique artistic medium due to the fact that they require a synthesis of the visual, aural, and literary arts. All three of these components are relevant to the overall quality of the VN, but they also fall into the following hierarchy of importance:

scenario (literary) > music and voice acting (aural) > sprites, CG's, and backgrounds (visual)

>>3975834
Not talking about Key stuff. Talking about this /lit/ vn (if it ever gets made)

>>3975771

A VN doesn't have to have "routes", it can be a straight shot through like Umineko, and I would suggest shying away from the generic harem romance plot.

A /lit/ VN should strive to utilize the medium to the fullest. Excellent prose coupled with music and appropriate images would go a long way.

>>3975862
>voice acting
How important do you really consider this, in the context of an OLEVN? I mean, for the kinds of criticisms KS usually receives, I'll definitely say that I would have enjoyed it far less if voices had also been involved, whether they were of higher quality or not.

>>3975862
I'm sure scenario and visual are on equal footing, otherwise you wouldn't write it as a VN in the first place.

It's about how the text syncs with the visuals

>>3975860
>objective
>anything
Looks like we have a visitor from the late 18th century!

>>3975864
Yeah and that's why VN's have multiple routes, not just Key VN's.

There are benefits to having single-route (or single girl) games though, and lots of VN's are like that.

>>3975870
or most of the 19th, 20th, 17th, 16th, 15th, 14th, etc centuries

>>3975868
>I'm sure scenario and visual are on equal footing,

You'd be surprised.

Umineko and Higurashi, both very popular VNs, have pretty bad character art.

>>3975871
>multiple routes

Higurashi and Umineko

>>3975867
The fact that KS had no voice acting was one of its biggest flaws. Lack of VA's is a tell-tale sign of an amateur VN.

>>3975868
Visuals are important, of course, but they're the least important component of a VN. A game with 10/10 story and 10/10 music but 5/10 visuals is still better than a game with 5/10 story and 5/10 music but 10/10 visuals.

>>3975875
The point is not to look at the aspects as seperate but since VN is basically like Wagner's total work of art everything has to flow together smoothly.

>>3975878
Well, I disagree with your stance on VA's for the same kinds of reasons that I dislike audio books and the like.

It's more tolerable when the vocals are in Japanese since it feels more akin to subs than having the text go along with an English speaking VA. I feel like that would pull me out of the writing moreso than anything else, honestly.

I would actually contribute to this if it was going to happen.

>>3975876
Yeah, like I said not all VN's have multiple routes. There are pros and cons to both methods really.

Single Route:
>Pros:
>can focus on developing one character or plot instead of dividing your time to develop several
>easier to make your game unified thematically
>usually shorter

>Cons:
>players have less control over story progression
>less diversity, story/characters less likely to appeal to a wide audience

Multiple Routes:
>Pros:
>can create a diversity of characters that will appeal to different audiences and niches
>can intertwine stories in complex ways
>players have more control over story progression
>the main plot can be viewed from different perspectives

>Cons:
>each character/subplot will have less time devoted to it, so the plot will be more shallow
>takes more time to complete
>difficult to keep a sense of unification amongst the different routes, often games like this made by amateurs end up giving the player a sense that the different routes aren't even part of the same VN

>>3975880
Well it's better to have no VA's than bad VA's, of course.

It's still best to have VA's if you can manage to get good ones though.

>>3975880
>>3975897
Also I dunno how many VN's you've played but most have an option to disable voices.

>>3975665
Right then, this is my chance to unleash the many many shitty story ideas that have been floating around inside my head.

Inspired by that Air Pressure mini-VN. At first plays out like a normal visual novel with one heroine. Use all the standard romantic cliches and all at the start. Every choice is either you can spend time with her or you can do other things. She represents the escapist ideal of visual novels. The more you spend time with her the more self-destructive and addicted you become. If you keep choosing to spend time with her you get a bad end. If you don't you get a good end. If you happen to choose 50/50 the character (now female) wakes up from a coma and realizes that all that stuff was a delusion she created because she's was in a car crash (now it changes from a visual novel to a kinetic novel). At this stage the visual style turns into a black and white minimalist monochrome (think the first scene of madoka-like visuals). She wanders the streets thinking about existence The Stranger-style. Use bleak images of the city to emphasize on loneliness and alienation. Slowly the plot becomes more and more surreal as she comes across a multitude of weird characters and many more textual styles get tied in. Eventually I have no idea what the fuck happens.

It is the most pretentious meta idea I can think of.

>>3975898
Yeah, but like I said I don't have any issues with most VA's in translated novels since the audio is in Japanese while the text is regular English, so it feels more like subs in an anime than an audio book.

My issue would be moreso with an OELVN having active voice acting.

>>3975901
They're just reading the dialogue though. I don't understand your problem.

>>3975900
So basically Chaos;Head?

>>3975904
Again, it's the same reason I've never been a fan of audio books. First of all, having the lines read out loud for me, word for word, as I'm reading the text itself would bother me both from a reading speed perspective. Secondly, even with the "best" VA jobs out there, the voices don't always match your own perception of a character's voice as you're reading, which becomes even more obvious when you hear that voice speaking in your native language than in one that you don't understand (which is why it's often much harder for native English speakers to determine the quality of a Japanese VA when compared to their English counterparts). I much prefer being able to get a feel for a character's voice through their dialogue itself than through their set voice actor's interpretation of said dialogue.

>>3975907
Only in the "I have no idea what the fuck happens" part.

>>3975908
>First of all, having the lines read out loud for me, word for word, as I'm reading the text itself would bother me both from a reading speed perspective.

No different than watching a movie with subtitles. VN's are a synthesis of other art forms. Voice acting is one of the aspects it inherits from drama and film, and can really add a lot to scenes if the VA's are good.

>Secondly, even with the "best" VA jobs out there, the voices don't always match your own perception of a character's voice as you're reading

Irrelevant. When you watch a movie do you get annoyed when characters voices don't sound the way you think they should? It's up to the creators to cast VA's with appropriate voices for the role.

>through their dialogue itself than through their set voice actor's interpretation of said dialogue

If it's the VA's interpretation then you're a shit creator to begin with. Voice acting is no different then real acting in regards to requiring a director to guide them in the right direction.

come on people

tyrone slothrop dating sim

this shit isn't hard

>>3975909
Not really, Chaos;Head has all that stuff with meta-VN tropes and delusions.

>>3975912
yes

YES

THIS SHOULD HAPPEN

>>3975918
my work here is ogre, good night everybody.

>>3975914
hmm, but the problem was the Chaos;Head didn't exactly scream out /lit/. No extreme philosophy + extreme postmodernism + intertextual references. You can say it's similar thematically though.

So anyways are you guys serious about making this?

If you are the first step is to come up with the scenario.

>>3975925
Of course not. Nobody here is willing to spend upwards of 3-5 years on anything but a novel. You may get a few weeks of IRC planning meetings, but nothing else.

Honestly I'd prefer 19th century comedy of manners romance, among the intelligentsia if you like, to any of the typical and crap ideas someone's likely to come up with.

>>3975924
Trying to shoehorn
>extreme philosophy + extreme postmodernism + intertextual references

into a VN, instead of something that flows more naturally, is just going to leave you with a bad tryhard VN,

Not saying that a VN can't have these things, but you can't make these things the primary focus and then try to build everything around that. These things have to arise naturally.

>>3975911
>No different than watching a movie with subtitles. VN's are a synthesis of other art forms. Voice acting is one of the aspects it inherits from drama and film, and can really add a lot to scenes if the VA's are good.

I prefer my films/video games without subtitles as well, actually. I didn't finish my thought originally ("both from a") and was going to say that it's just personally distracting to me to have the dialogue be represented both visually and through audio. While watching a movie, subtitles pull me away from one aspect of the film to focus on another, detracting from my personal enjoyment of both.

>Irrelevant. When you watch a movie do you get annoyed when characters voices don't sound the way you think they should? It's up to the creators to cast VA's with appropriate voices for the role.

That's a different case entirely, though. In literature, a character is determined moreso by their actual dialogue, descriptions, personality... I very much take issue with when a movie adaptation of a novel completely gets a character wrong through their casting choices. I obviously see a VN as more of a novel (obviously, based on the name of the medium) than a movie or form of media that is focused moreso on casting.

>>3975930
This I like, I've always felt like historical settings were under-explored in VN's.

>>3975911
>>3975933
>If it's the VA's interpretation then you're a shit creator to begin with. Voice acting is no different then real acting in regards to requiring a director to guide them in the right direction.

True, although that's obviously a bit much to ask of a /lit/ writer to also become a VA director and find quality actors in the first place to not only play the part, but to match their original vision for the character themselves.

In the end, like I said, these are my personal opinions. My own preferences. Whether you disagree with them or not, it's how I personally feel about how I would prefer to see an OELVN approached.

>>3975933
>While watching a movie, subtitles pull me away from one aspect of the film to focus on another, detracting from my personal enjoyment of both.

You can just listen to them and look at the visuals instead of reading along then, or you can disable audio.

>That's a different case entirely, though. In literature, a character is determined moreso by their actual dialogue, descriptions, personality...

VN's aren't literature though. They're a synthesis of several different art forms, and while the literary aspect takes precedence over the others that doesn't mean the others can be neglected, otherwise you might as well just write a book.

Why on earth would we make a visual novel when we could more easily craft another exquisite corpse?

>>3975936
I agree it would be very unlikely for a VN made by /lit/ to have VA's, and I would probably advise against even trying to have any voice acting since it would be bound to end up sounding like shit.

I'm just saying that good VA's > no VA's > bad VA's

>>3975939
Because there are some people who wanna make exquisite corpses and some people who wanna make VNs.

>>3975891
This.

>>3975862
What about the possibility of a GL game? As in a visual novel about lesbian relationships?

>>3975950
Those exist and are certainly a possibility.

The Hanabira series is great.

>>3975665
The problem is that /jp/ had Raita's artwork to base their story around which had artwork and ideas and all. We don't even have a framework for anything right now and I don't think /lit/ can come to a consensus about a story framework unless we have some artists willing to draw out a proper skeleton/character design sheet. If not this is pretty much as good as just randomly throwing around random ideas and discussing VNs without actually getting closer to making one.

>>3975953
Pitch an idea or two then.

If we get a good idea I'm sure there will be an artist on this board willing to sketch out some basic concept art.

>>3975964
Okay, let's have an F/F novel.

>The story opens with our female protagonist arriving at an all girl collage campus.
>First girl she meets is her roommate who's a flirty bisexual.
>Second would be a tall bookish girl in the library.
>Third would be the all star athlete on the collage basketball team.
>And lastly, the artist girl who acts cold, but is lonely on the inside.

Granted, this is really rough as I just typed it out. I'd need more time to think of something to set it apart like the disabilities in Katawa Shoujo. Any suggestions on where to go with it would be greatly appreciated.

>>3975964
These are some random novel ideas that may be translatable to visuals.

Based off the Munster Rebellion and Spainish Civil War, a bunch of idealistic revolutionaries succeed in taking over a city and establishing a regime of some kind. Slowly though they realize that the forces of the empire are moving in and they won't be able to last. Eventually the city pulls of a last stand while the narrator (who can be named Orwell to reference Homage to Catalonia) escapes and resolves to spread the story of the city's fall. (problem with this is it's more kinetic than visual)

Or if you want something more traditionally romance route based. A battalion has to defend a fortress from non-stop incoming hordes of evil. Main character and maybe 3 females spend day after day enjoying life and trying to survive when the hordes come. (Sora no Woto but evil)

For some reason the idea of facing an almost impossible enemy and trying to find hope in that sort of situation appeals to me. Seems like a non-absurdist Godot kind of thing but more optimistic.

>>3975974
>college campus

That was your first mistake. If we're making a galge its got to be set in a high school or some non-academic setting. College doesn't work as well as high school in terms of school settings.

>>3975976
You could always combine the two, a galge set in the Spanish Civil War (or some other easily romanticized war like the America Civil War or WWII or something).

That would be interesting and original.

>>3975983
>You could always combine the two, a galge set in the Spanish Civil War (or some other easily romanticized war like the America Civil War or WWII or something).
Yeah, this is way better than my idea. We should go with this, but have it take place during an American war. That way more people would be familiar with the time place.

>>3975983
Yeah I'm starting to like this idea.

A dating sim set on the losing side of the Spanish Civil War or something.

>nurse girl
>civilian girl in the town where the fighting is taking place
>soldier girl (possibly crossdressing as a boy)
>girl whose father is an officer in the opposing army

>>3975983
So an idealistic revolutionary group takes over a city or something and creates a regime. Meanwhile the protagonist tries to score with some chicks in the group while the forces of the evil nasty empire slowly moves in.

Who wants to vote on this?

>>3975990
>soldier girl (possibly crossdressing as a boy)
>mfw

>>3975989
>>3975990
I'd say the American Civil War would be the best then but only if it were set in the Confederacy, and even then it would be difficult to make it seem like it's not just a knock-off of Gone With the Wind.

Whatever war it's set in it should probably be set on the losing side, so the side that lost has to be relatively sympathetic and easy to romanticize.

>>3975993
Yeah for a lot of wars it wasn't really that uncommon for girls to crossdress so that they could join the military. Would make for an interesting route considering that you'd have to keep the relationship secret from everyone.

I'm just going to say what everyone who has seen this thread --but not posted-- is thinking:

You people have no taste.

>>3975992
I think it would be better to set it in a historical war, and to make it clear that neither side of the war is really the "bad guy" or "evil" or anything.

There could possibly be a femme fatale type girl who the character finds out is a spy for the opposing military, that would be interesting.

>>3975999
I deeply apologize for trying to mobilize this community into doing something other than just argue and wank over the same books and philosophy all day.

After all the obscure books thread may have raised my hopes about the state of this board.

Mayhaps you may like to contribute an idea or two which has 'taste'

Let's be realistic, we'll never find the talent to do sprites, art, music, backgrounds, code, and all the other umpteen things it takes to do this. Why do you think it took KS some 5 years to come out and every project based off of it is still in production hell? Besides, generic high school romance isn't the best showcase for /lit/ "talent".

A much simpler and all around better idea would be a short story collection that we all write and edit and release in a big pdf or what have you. Sort of like Machine of Death

>>3976010
Don't be so negative, Mr. Bloom.

>>3976010
I guess we could take this idea and just write it as a short story collection. Like a visual novel, but in dead tree form.

>>3976010
If /lit/ was realistic we'd all have listened to those /sci/fags joined STEM

>>3976017
The word you are looking for is "realistic"

Will there be sex?

>>3976046
if the artist is good, of course

>>3976051
My penis is so fucking ready

And Katawa Shoujo gave me too many feels, couldn't fap.

So, how are we communicating about this then?

And to be honest, I think a collection of short stories would work better. For one thing, we're from /lit/. Secondly, VNs are a LOT of work.

Maybe use the short story collection as a test to see how much cohesion and organization we can squeeze out of some of the board users. I;, sure most of us already have things to contribute.

>>3975712
>There are lots of VN that actually have incredible writing,

Barf. You're a disgrace to otaku. You don't understand this lifestyle.

>>3976071
Please do this, and if it pans out, reconvene and think about a VN

>>3976090
So like think of a setting to do a Jack Vance Dying Earth type thing? Then afterwards think of making a VN in that setting?

>>3976071
Set up something on IRC if you're serious about it.

>>3976094
The VN doesnt have to come from the compilation, but sure. Choose/create a setting, a bunch of anons write stories in that setting, put em together

>>3976119
@Rizon

#ProjectLit

>>3976122
If you guys are thinking of switching to short story collection in a certain setting. I vote dystopia.

A partially inefficient 'realistic' dystopia, like a 1984 that doesn't maintain its telescreens.

There are other western VNs to compare to.
Check out Dysfunctional Systems. Have to pay for it or pirate though.

>>3976131
personally, I'm kind of sick of dystopia. but we can discuss it in the IRC

>>3976129
join the IRC to discuss a /lit/ story compilation project

30 years war.
Multiple routes. Choose to fight for the Pope or Protestantism. Possibly choose which battles to participate in / how to carry on in battle. Will the protag choose to steal the peasants harvest or risk starvation on the march?

wait i haven't read the thread will you still get to have sex with anime girls?

>>3976214
you will get to lead your nation in the glorious national socialist uprising and carve out a future for your people.

We should make an otome game where every character you can pursue is based on a 4chan board.

>/lit/
The bookish first love who won't stop calling you to listen to himself talk.

>/jp/
The childhood friend who faded into NEETdom until you reunite over the internet. Hilarious sex ensues.

>/r9k/
The "nice guy" who ends up killing you due to pent up sexual frustration.

I'm already writing a novella with more or less this exact plot, but feel free to borrow my half-baked ideas.

>>3976218
>/pol/
The successful blonde-haired CERN physicist who recruits you into the national socialist underground.

>>3976223
He's also black/jewish/homosexual.

or all three.

>>3976218
Remember those 4chan house comics? The ones where it was a huge house and all the boards would interact?
There were only like 5 made though

>>3976225
Silly Jew. Blacks aren't smart enough to do physics, and homosexuals are too busy whoring themselves out to as many people as possible to ever succeed in the sciences.

>>3975665
>do you think we could write a better VN than Katawa Shoujo?

>Katawa Shoujo

Shouldn't be hard considering KS was nothing more than melodramatic cliches trash coupled with poorly drawn porn.

I was impressed by the accompanying BGM though but the 'plot' was terrible and so too were pretty much the whole cast and setting.

>>3976228
Irony though.

>>3976226
Can I have a link?

Pretty much everyone that plays other VN (so /a/, the older parts of /v/, /jp/ and /vg/) consider KS only "okay" as far as VN go.
It should go okay.

I have a great idea for a plot. A black girl is adopted to a white town by a mad professor using her for experiments. She overcomes racism and lynchings through a combination of her black intellect and hiding out in the library reading physics books. She eventually saves the town from an apocalyptic nuclear meltdown even though they don't deserve it. At the end she is lynched by a white mob of ~200 yelling KILL DER NIGGARDS and she says "I forgive you my brothers and sisters. Lean forward."

>>3976071
This project now has its own thread

>>3976175

>>3976260
Then they regret killing her and decide to impregnate all the women with mail order black sperm from Sweden. The town becomes leftist utopia within a few generations.

>>3976265
>mail order black sperm from Sweden
>Sweden
wat

>>3976272
Sweden is mostly made up of arabs and pure dark as coal blacks. American blacks are something like 15% mixed with the evil race.

Honestly you guys should be experienced with the medium before trying to make a VN/eroge. That's one of the reason KS sucked dick.

Like >>3975801 said it's not the same as writing a novel.

>>3976291
>>3975801
You'd need playwrights and/or screenwriters, not vanilla novelists for a VN in addition to the experience in the medium (which is probably easier to acquire than experience in the aforementioned disciplines).